Most (and least) reliable car brands 2021

[Hypocrite-The]

Where would yankeeland be if they werent so short sighted

 

[eatshitndie]

Have to add in driving conditions..singkieland etc alot of jams n start n stop..will cut the range even further. N in the beginning..electric was strictly city car as boss sam said

yeah, short commute vs. grand touring. now ev’s are so stylish and sporty like the taycunt that longer ranges and more numerous charging spots are required. in bay area though, because of sexpensive homes on peninsula, more workers are commuting longer distances. the pandamic has shelved this dilemma for the time being, but some gig commuters drive from sacramento to san jose to work in warehouses. that’s easily 242 miles round trip.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

yeah, short commute vs. grand touring. now ev’s are so stylish and sporty like the taycunt that longer ranges and more numerous charging spots are required. in bay area though, because of sexpensive homes on peninsula, more workers are commuting longer distances. the pandamic has shelved this dilemma for the time being, but some gig commuters drive from sacramento to san jose to work in warehouses. that’s easily 242 miles round trip.

So if they can afford an ev. They can actually save... but whore house workers are actually the working poor..so they have to stick with fossil fuels...but if do the math...lets say they get a small diesel car...its actually cheaper than an EV..even with running cost factored in. Like a i30 diesel.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

yeah, short commute vs. grand touring. now ev’s are so stylish and sporty like the taycunt that longer ranges and more numerous charging spots are required. in bay area though, because of sexpensive homes on peninsula, more workers are commuting longer distances. the pandamic has shelved this dilemma for the time being, but some gig commuters drive from sacramento to san jose to work in warehouses. that’s easily 242 miles round trip.

And on my Basic analysis...an i30 diesel running cost..but must go the distance of more than 100km per day...even with more sexpensive maintenance its actually cheaper than an EV. Get a 2 yo one after the depreciation etc..its lower upfront cost and slightly higher running cost. And swap out the car after 6 years..still got money to spare. And diesel in yankeeland is much cheaper. So for now
EV is still not there yet. N in 6 years time..than can consider an EV

 

[Leongsam]

Good point boss sam.. n even betterer if house have 3 phase power?

Not many houses will be equipped with 3 phase power unless they are part of an industrial estate.

 

[eatshitndie]

So if they can afford an ev. They can actually save... but whore house workers are actually the working poor..so they have to stick with fossil fuels...but if do the math...lets say they get a small diesel car...its actually cheaper than an EV..even with running cost factored in. Like a i30 diesel.

$36.9k for a pre-owned model 3 is not too sexpensive for whorehouse workers. almost all lyft and uber drivers preferred hybrids before the model 3 came along. and the most fuel efficient hybrid, the prius v, was around $29k msrp plus tax. some gig drivers are driving model 3s in sillycon valley to save on gas. heck, even low ses couples with 6.9 kids drive pre-owned luxury suv’s these days, such as the cadillac escalade. price is no barrier in the $26.9k to $36.9k range to many low ses workers. model 3 has “cheapened” the tesla brand. it’s not confined to eco-conscious tech workers anymore.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

$36.9k for a pre-owned model 3 is not too sexpensive for whorehouse workers. almost all lyft and uber drivers preferred hybrids before the model 3 came along. and the most fuel efficient hybrid, the prius v, was around $29k msrp plus tax. some gig drivers are driving model 3s in sillycon valley to save on gas. heck, even low ses couples with 6.9 kids drive pre-owned luxury suv’s these days, such as the cadillac escalade. price is no barrier in the $26.9k to $36.9k range to many low ses workers. model 3 has “cheapened” the tesla brand. it’s not confined to eco-conscious tech workers anymore.

Ok so long as they have super chargers which they can access easily.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Not many houses will be equipped with 3 phase power unless they are part of an industrial estate.

I not sure about kiwiland but Actually in kangaroo land..its quite common to have 3 phase power with home and land packages...its just the cost of the cable..than with aircon etc..at least the circuit breaker wont trip. And many ang mor houses have fully equipped workshop. So 3 phase power is betterer.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

$36.9k for a pre-owned model 3 is not too sexpensive for whorehouse workers. almost all lyft and uber drivers preferred hybrids before the model 3 came along. and the most fuel efficient hybrid, the prius v, was around $29k msrp plus tax. some gig drivers are driving model 3s in sillycon valley to save on gas. heck, even low ses couples with 6.9 kids drive pre-owned luxury suv’s these days, such as the cadillac escalade. price is no barrier in the $26.9k to $36.9k range to many low ses workers. model 3 has “cheapened” the tesla brand. it’s not confined to eco-conscious tech workers anymore.

What r yr thoughts on hybrid? I was told that the fuel consumption is quite high on sexpressways. As the small petrol engine is doing all the work..so for long distances a hybrid makes no sense. And all in all long term is for EV..just price needs to go down more

 

[eatshitndie]

Ok so long as they have super chargers which they can access easily.

for now yes, as traffic is light during commute hours.

 

[eatshitndie]

What r yr thoughts on hybrid? I was told that the fuel consumption is quite high on sexpressways. As the small petrol engine is doing all the work..so for long distances a hybrid makes no sense. And all in all long term is for EV..just price needs to go down more

if one cruises at 69 mph it’s ok. the hybrid engine performs admirably at 69 mpg at 69 mph.

 

[bushtucker]

Alfa romeo surprisingly in the top 10. I thought they were as unreliable as their parent company Fiat.

Suzuki does make reliable engines but I cannot stand their cheap and fragile plasticky interiors.

Safe bet choice would be Lexus for performance and handling (rear wheel drive models), reliable Toyota-made engines and transmissions, and the luxurious interiors. Con is the laggy infotainment system.

 

[syed putra]

Alfa romeo surprisingly in the top 10. I thought they were as unreliable as their parent company Fiat.

Suzuki does make reliable engines but I cannot stand their cheap and fragile plasticky interiors.

Safe bet choice would be Lexus for performance and handling (rear wheel drive models), reliable Toyota-made engines and transmissions, and the luxurious interiors. Con is the laggy infotainment system.

I had a lancia in the 1990's and it was reliable. It used fiat engines. That time alfa was not under fiat group yet.

 

[glockman]

EVs are too quiet and can post a danger to other road users. Most of us need the sound of an internal combustion engine to gauge the proximity of a car.

Perhaps there is market for an add-on mod to make EVs sound like an AC Cobra?

 

[vamjok]

actually if i am not wrong, look at what the Taliban is using to mount their mobile light armor, that is the most reliable car. I think is some kind of Toyota van

 

[Hypocrite-The]

All HDB car parks in at least 8 towns to have electric vehicle charging points by 2025
The aim is to make every HDB town an "EV-ready" town by the 2030s, said Transport Minister Ong Ye Kung.

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SINGAPORE: As part of efforts to expand Singapore’s electric vehicle (EV) charging infrastructure, all Housing and Development Board (HDB) car parks in at least eight towns will be fitted with EV chargers by 2025.
The eight - Ang Mo Kio, Bedok, Choa Chu Kang, Jurong West, Punggol, Queenstown, Sembawang and the upcoming Tengah town - are part of a "town-centric" approach being taken for the installation of charging points, said Minister for Transport Ong Ye Kung in Parliament on Thursday (Mar 4).
“By the 2030s, we will strive to make every HDB town an EV-ready town,” he said.
The towns were chosen as they are spread across Singapore and have a high concentration of car parks with existing electrical capacity to support charging point deployment, said the Land Transport Authority (LTA).
In the near term, charging points will be installed in a variety of public car parks islandwide where suitable and where there is spare electrical capacity, it added.
The agency noted that the first tender for charging points - more than 600 of them at about 200 public car parks - was issued by the Urban Redevelopment Authority (URA) and LTA in November last year.
An industry consultation on the private sector’s participation in public charger deployment will be launched later this month.
These initiatives are in line with the aim of deploying 60,000 EV charging points across Singapore by 2030, of which 40,000 will be in public car parks while another 20,000 will be in private premises.
“If we assume one-third of cars are EVs by 2030, this translates into a EV to charging point ratio of about 5:1,” said Mr Ong, noting that estimates of the optimum ratio between EVs and charging points range from five to 10 vehicles per point.
For the national public charging standards, Mr Ong said Singapore has settled on Type 2 for AC charging and CCS 2 for DC or fast charging.
With a range of about 400km to 500km per charge, a typical EV user would need to charge about once every five days, he said, adding that charging points would need to be shared, especially in public car parks.
“That way, we will be able to minimise electrical infrastructure upgrades, we can tap on the spare electrical capacity in all our public carparks, and install charging points as quickly as possible.”
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EV COMMON CHARGER GRANT
A new EV Common Charger Grant will be introduced to kickstart the expansion of shared charging infrastructure in existing “non-landed private residences” such as condominiums.
To be administered by the LTA, the grant will co-fund the installation of 2,000 chargers in such residences between July this year and December 2023, subject to a cap.
More details on the grant will be announced in the second quarter of this year, LTA said.
It noted that all new HDB carparks will provide sufficient electrical capacity to support EV slow charging for 15 per cent of their car parking lots, and install a minimum number of chargers in these lots.
This requirement will be imposed in due course on new private developments, as well as existing buildings undergoing major redevelopment, LTA said, adding that more details will be released at a later date.
READ: Amid push for electric vehicles, getting charging points installed in condominiums remains a challenge

NATIONAL ELECTRIC VEHICLE CENTRE
A new National Electric Vehicle Centre (NEVC), set up under the LTA, will lead the drive to promote wider EV adoption.
“In addition to planning for the expansion of the nationwide EV charging infrastructure, NEVC will also lead efforts to review EV regulations and standards and develop a robust EV ecosystem in Singapore,” said LTA.
The new centres will work with partners to "equip our workforce with new capabilities, anchor new EV-related activities in Singapore, and facilitate the safe and innovative development of new EV-related technologies," it added.
Meanwhile, legislation is being amended to transfer the role of EV charging systems regulator from the Energy Market Authority to LTA, “to give dedicated focus to this work”, said Mr Ong.
LTA is leading a comprehensive review of TR25 - a set of technical and safety standards governing EV charging in Singapore - together with industry players, experts and other stakeholders, he said, adding that the review is expected to be completed by the end of this year.
“Regulatory sandboxes” will be set up to allow commercial players to test and introduce various EV charging solutions while the review is ongoing, he said.
“It is very important we get this right, because it will determine the level of private sector involvement in finding solutions to build up the infrastructure and drive EV charging and adoption,” he added.
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CHANGES TO ROAD TAX
Noting that there has already been a "significant downward revision" of road taxes for electric cars this year, Mr Ong said the issue has been further reviewed.
"We should set the electric car road tax schedule such that electric and ICE (internal combustion engine) cars with roughly the same look, feel and level of luxury are subject to the same road taxes," he said.
"This is an inherently subjective exercise and wouldn't be very scientific, but it reflects the policy objective, which is that a large part of road tax is a luxury tax," he said.

From Jan 1 next year, the road tax brackets for electric cars will be merged such that vehicles with a power rating of 90-230kW will pay the same road tax as those with a power rating of 30-90kW.
This will result in a reduction of up to 34 per cent in road tax for electric cars in the 90-230kW bracket, the LTA said.

This means the annual road tax for a Hyundai Kona Electric will fall from about S$1,400 to S$1,100; while that of a Tesla Model 3 will drop from S$2,300 to S$1,500, noted Mr Ong, adding that this would make their road taxes comparable to ICE models with a similar look and feel.
"What is important is that we have now established the principles and policy for charging road tax on electric cars. As more models emerge, we will review the road tax schedule, with a view not to over-charge electric vis-à-vis ICE cars," he said.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Registration of new diesel cars and taxis to end in 2025
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SINGAPORE: The registration of new diesel cars and taxis in Singapore will cease from 2025, Minister for Transport Ong Ye Kung announced on Thursday (Mar 4).
This is part of efforts to "further pave the way for greener vehicles", said Mr Ong.
"As we know, diesel cars emit PM2.5 (particulate matter) and are even more pollutive (than petrol vehicles)," he said.
While diesel vehicles made up about 85 per cent of Singapore's taxi fleet five years ago, their numbers have dropped in recent years and they now comprise about 40 per cent of the country's 15,888 taxis.
As of January, there are 18,081 diesel cars on the roads here, making up about 2.8 per cent of Singapore's car population, according to figures from the Land Transport Authority.
Mr Ong noted that the previously announced target was to phase out internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles and have all vehicles run on cleaner energy by 2040.
"To realise this vision, and given that COEs (certificates of entitlement) for cars last for 10 years, we will require from 2030 all new car and taxi registrations to be of cleaner-energy models," said Mr Ong.
“They can be electric, hybrid, hydrogen fuel cell cars, et cetera. As these technologies are evolving rapidly, we will monitor developments closely, and finalise the definition of registrable models well before 2030,” he added.
READ: All HDB car parks in at least 8 towns to have electric vehicle charging points by 2025

There is a net carbon abatement by switching from ICE to electric vehicles, even if the electricity is generated by fossil fuels, Mr Ong said. He noted that in Singapore - where power is largely generated from natural gas - the net carbon savings from switching to EVs would be about 50 per cent.
“Today, vehicles on the whole emit about 6.4 million tonnes of CO2-equivalent per year. If the subset of light vehicles all ran on electricity, the total net carbon abatement would be about 1.5 to two million tonnes per year,” he said.
This translates into a “not insignificant” abatement of about 4 per cent of Singapore’s total national emissions, he noted.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Govt aims to deploy 60,000 electric vehicle charging points by 2030, says Transport Minister Ong Ye Kung - The Online Citizen Asia
The Government aims to deploy 60,000 electric vehicle (EV) charging points across Singapore by 2030, and install EV charging points in all Housing Development Board (HDB) carparks located in eight towns by 2025, said Minister for Transport Ong Ye Kung on Thursday (4 Mar).
Speaking in Parliament earlier today, Mr Ong noted that 40,000 charging points will be deployed in public carparks, while the remaining 20,000 will be at private premises.
He revealed the Government is targeting to have at least eight EV-ready towns by 2025, with all HDB carparks in eight towns – namely Ang Mo Kio, Bedok, Choa Chu Kang, Jurong West, Punggol, Queenstown, Sembawang and Tengah – be fitted with EV charging points.
These towns were selected as they are well spread out across Singapore, and consist of a high concentration of car parks with the existing electrical capacity to support charging point deployment.
“Assuming one-third of cars are EVs by 2030, this translates into an EV-to-charging point ratio of about 5.1. This ratio is better than many public estimates of the optimum ratio, which ranges from 5:1 to 10:1,” said Mr Ong.
While he acknowledged that having high-powered fast charging points is more preferred, Mr Ong stressed the key to unlocking more charging facilities is “to not insist” on high-powered fast chargers, as this would require a major upgrade to almost all existing power substations and grid infrastructure in Singapore.
“It would be costly, time-consuming, stall the development and expansion of charging infrastructure, and severely impede the adoption of EVs.
“We can move much faster in making charging points available if we accept that for most users, instead of high-powered ‘fast’ charging, ‘slow’ or ‘overnight’ charging is alright,” he added.
Noting that drivers are used to quick visits to the petrol station, Mr Ong believes that a mindset shift would be required for them to start using slow chargers.
“After all, we are used to patiently charging all our electronic devices whether they are smartphones, smart watches or laptops, while we sleep, or while we are in office doing work. It will be the same for EVs,” he noted.
An average EV with a range of around 400-500km would require a full charge about once every five days.
Mr Ong noted that charging points will need to be shared, with different drivers charging on different days and different times, especially those in public car parks.
“That way, we will be able to minimise electrical infrastructure upgrades, tap on the spare electrical capacity in all our public car parks, and install charging points as quickly as possible,” he said.
For non-landed private residences such as condominiums, the Government will introduce an EV Common Charger Grant to catalyse implementation. Condominiums will be able to apply for the grant to defray part of the cost of installing a charger, subject to a quantum cap.
“This will be made available to the first 2,000 chargers installed from July 2021,” said the Minister, adding that this is part of the S$30 million allocation announced in Budget 2021, with more details to come from the Land Transport Authority (LTA).
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[kaninabuchaojibye]

next time sure got singkie fight over charging point
haaaa

 

[syed putra]

next time sure got singkie fight over charging point
haaaa

If all the cars were to charge at time same time, must import more power from jb.