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https://www.driven.co.nz/news/news/suzuki-and-lexus-top-new-reliability-survey-tesla-on-the-bottom/

Suzuki and Lexus top new reliability survey, Tesla on the bottom
https://www.driven.co.nz/news/news/suzuki-and-lexus-top-new-reliability-survey-tesla-on-the-bottom/#
BY DAILY MAIL • 06/09/2018
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Photo / Matthew Hansen

Japanese cars are the most dependable motors on the market, and high-end Teslas are most likely to let their owners down.

That's according to a keenly-watched reliability survey, which found that Suzuki along with four other Japanese brands were among the top six most robust, while the US electric car company has the shakiest track record.

The What Car? Reliability Survey [published in full below] also listed the most and least dependable new models you can buy in showrooms today, based on the feedback of more than 18,000 motorists.

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The UK-based survey is one of the biggest of its kind, processing the feedback of 18,284 owners of some 159 models spanning 31 different brands.

Suzuki, which mainly makes cheap and cheerful small cars and 4x4s, topped the overall manufacturer rankings for new cars up to four years old with a reliability score of 97.7 per cent, joined by Lexus, Toyota, Mitsubishi and Subaru in the top six.

The only non-Japanese mark in the top order was Korean firm Kia, taking fourth spot, with sister brand Hyundai in ninth.

At the opposite end of the spectrum it was American luxury electric-car giant Tesla that recorded the worst reliability track record.

Despite the cheapest brand new Tesla setting buyers back more than $100,000, its reliability score of 57.3 per cent was by far the worst rating.

Land Rover - which was second from bottom - scored at 76.5 per cent for reliability of cars between one and four years old.

The trend continued when the data revealed which specific models were most and least reliable. For newer cars it was the current Toyota Yaris and Suxuki SX4 S-Cross that led the table, both recording a staggering 100 per cent dependability record, according to their owners.

The electric Nissan Leaf took third spot, ahead of the Toyota RAV4 and BMW 3 Series. Anchoring the standings was the Tesla Model S.

Owners' reports of breakdowns and necessary repairs saw it gain a reliability score of just 50.9 per cent - almost half that of the most dependable Japanese cars.

And it doesn't make favourable reading for Land Rover either, with three of its models - the Discovery Sport, Range Rover and Range Rover Evoque - among the top five models with the poorest owner ratings.

Overall, around 30 per cent of the respondents with cars less than four years old said their car had suffered at least one fault in the past 12 months.

Steve Huntingford, editor of What Car?, said: "Reliability is a huge consideration for any prospective car buyer, as your car is likely to be your second biggest monthly expense after mortgage or rent payments.

"You want your car to last and you don’t want to have to fork out huge amounts to fix faults and keep it running.

"Our annual survey has shown that it is Japanese models that continue to dominate the top of the reliability rankings, both for car model and brand rankings."

Most (and least) reliable car brands
1. Suzuki - 97.7%
2. Lexus - 97.5%
3. Toyota - 96.8%
=4. Kia - 95.8%
=4. Mitsubishi - 95.8%
=4. Subaru - 95.8%
7. Skoda - 95.6%
8. Alfa Romeo - 95.5%
9. Hyundai - 95.4%
10. Seat - 95.2%
=11. Vauxhall - 94.6%
=11. Mazda - 94.6%
13. Dacia - 94.1%
14. Fiat - 94.0%
15. Honda - 93.8%
16. BMW - 93.4%
17. Volkswagen - 92.9%
18. Ford - 92.7%
19. Renault - 91.7%
=20. Audi - 91.5%
=20. Volvo - 91.5%
22. Mini - 91.2%
23. Porsche - 90.9%
24. Peugeot - 89.4%
25. Citroen - 88.1%
26. Mercedes-Benz - 88.0%
27. Nissan - 87.1%
28. Jaguar - 84.9%
29. Jeep - 82.7%
30. Land Rover - 76.5%
31. Tesla - 57.3%
 

mojito

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Hahaha aiya Sam ah. Nobody buys a Lamborghini for its reliability lah! Same for Tesla. Wrong channel sir! :cool:
 

eatshitndie

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ever since the model 3 was launched it took tesla safety and quality ratings down by 69 times. model 3 is a piece of junk.
 

Leongsam

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Hahaha aiya Sam ah. Nobody buys a Lamborghini for its reliability lah! Same for Tesla. Wrong channel sir! :cool:

Nobody buys Teslas for reliability. They are purchased by people who think that electric cars will save the planet. However the last thing they would expect is lack of reliability and this is going to work against Tesla when more and more car manufacturers start churning out electric models.

Hyundai now has an SUV that can do 400km on a single charge and they are far better at mass producing cars than Tesla will ever be.
 

syed putra

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Tesla should have just outsource its suto assembly to a more competent manufacturer. Plenty of idle car assembly plants in detroit that comes with experience workers. Better than starting on a greenfield site from zero.
 

Froggy

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Thank you @Leongsam this just confirmed I had made the right choice for the past 15 years since my first RX300.

Boss if you have time go try this, pretty good

 

halsey02

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Nobody buys Teslas for reliability. They are purchased by people who think that electric cars will save the planet. However the last thing they would expect is lack of reliability and this is going to work against Tesla when more and more car manufacturers start churning out electric models.

Hyundai now has an SUV that can do 400km on a single charge and they are far better at mass producing cars than Tesla will ever be.

Everybody is saving the planet...they don't give plastic bags for your groceries...99.99% of things you buy from the supermarket or shops are wrapped in plastic. KFC stop giving plastic straws to save the planet, but you order food or takeaway, they give you plastic cups, plastic spoons, plastic fork & knives, plastic containers, & plastic bags to carry all the plastic utensils inside with the food. The same people that think electric cars will save the planet...eat & shop in places that stop giving them palstic straws or plastic bags..

That is call SAVING THE PLANET.
 

Kotekbengkok

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Since when have American cars ever been good. They may start off well but the germans and japs do better many times over. This is what will happen with the Tesla. The German and Jap elctric cars coming into the market in the next 2 years will kill Tesla. Just look at the Merc EQ and Jag I Pace. I was so tempted 2 years ago to get a Tesla P85. Went to see it. Was totally put off . It reinfoced my view that Americans either don't know how to make good cars or dont really care: Tesla 85 was so badly put together. Seat ergonomics worse than those in a Mazda 2. Hatdly any storage space. One big Ipad type screen placed in the middle so awkwardly. Only thing going for it was the speed but than all electric cars are fast. Elon Musk should just sell his tech to the car companies and sit back and collect royalties and move on to his outer space endeavours.

ever since the model 3 was launched it took tesla safety and quality ratings down by 69 times. model 3 is a piece of junk.
 

Johnrambo

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https://www.driven.co.nz/news/news/suzuki-and-lexus-top-new-reliability-survey-tesla-on-the-bottom/

Suzuki and Lexus top new reliability survey, Tesla on the bottom
BY DAILY MAIL • 06/09/2018
SEARCH DRIVEN FOR VEHICLES FOR SALE

a_130218nzhmhswift04.jpg


Photo / Matthew Hansen

Japanese cars are the most dependable motors on the market, and high-end Teslas are most likely to let their owners down.

That's according to a keenly-watched reliability survey, which found that Suzuki along with four other Japanese brands were among the top six most robust, while the US electric car company has the shakiest track record.

The What Car? Reliability Survey [published in full below] also listed the most and least dependable new models you can buy in showrooms today, based on the feedback of more than 18,000 motorists.

lexus3.jpg



The UK-based survey is one of the biggest of its kind, processing the feedback of 18,284 owners of some 159 models spanning 31 different brands.

Suzuki, which mainly makes cheap and cheerful small cars and 4x4s, topped the overall manufacturer rankings for new cars up to four years old with a reliability score of 97.7 per cent, joined by Lexus, Toyota, Mitsubishi and Subaru in the top six.

The only non-Japanese mark in the top order was Korean firm Kia, taking fourth spot, with sister brand Hyundai in ninth.

At the opposite end of the spectrum it was American luxury electric-car giant Tesla that recorded the worst reliability track record.

Despite the cheapest brand new Tesla setting buyers back more than $100,000, its reliability score of 57.3 per cent was by far the worst rating.

Land Rover - which was second from bottom - scored at 76.5 per cent for reliability of cars between one and four years old.

The trend continued when the data revealed which specific models were most and least reliable. For newer cars it was the current Toyota Yaris and Suxuki SX4 S-Cross that led the table, both recording a staggering 100 per cent dependability record, according to their owners.

The electric Nissan Leaf took third spot, ahead of the Toyota RAV4 and BMW 3 Series. Anchoring the standings was the Tesla Model S.

Owners' reports of breakdowns and necessary repairs saw it gain a reliability score of just 50.9 per cent - almost half that of the most dependable Japanese cars.

And it doesn't make favourable reading for Land Rover either, with three of its models - the Discovery Sport, Range Rover and Range Rover Evoque - among the top five models with the poorest owner ratings.

Overall, around 30 per cent of the respondents with cars less than four years old said their car had suffered at least one fault in the past 12 months.

Steve Huntingford, editor of What Car?, said: "Reliability is a huge consideration for any prospective car buyer, as your car is likely to be your second biggest monthly expense after mortgage or rent payments.

"You want your car to last and you don’t want to have to fork out huge amounts to fix faults and keep it running.

"Our annual survey has shown that it is Japanese models that continue to dominate the top of the reliability rankings, both for car model and brand rankings."

Most (and least) reliable car brands
1. Suzuki - 97.7%
2. Lexus - 97.5%
3. Toyota - 96.8%
=4. Kia - 95.8%
=4. Mitsubishi - 95.8%
=4. Subaru - 95.8%
7. Skoda - 95.6%
8. Alfa Romeo - 95.5%
9. Hyundai - 95.4%
10. Seat - 95.2%
=11. Vauxhall - 94.6%
=11. Mazda - 94.6%
13. Dacia - 94.1%
14. Fiat - 94.0%
15. Honda - 93.8%
16. BMW - 93.4%
17. Volkswagen - 92.9%
18. Ford - 92.7%
19. Renault - 91.7%
=20. Audi - 91.5%
=20. Volvo - 91.5%
22. Mini - 91.2%
23. Porsche - 90.9%
24. Peugeot - 89.4%
25. Citroen - 88.1%
26. Mercedes-Benz - 88.0%
27. Nissan - 87.1%
28. Jaguar - 84.9%
29. Jeep - 82.7%
30. Land Rover - 76.5%
31. Tesla - 57.3%

tiagong Tesla's COO got caught smoking pot or something is it true?
 

Leongsam

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Thank you @Leongsam this just confirmed I had made the right choice for the past 15 years since my first RX300.

Boss if you have time go try this, pretty good


That model is front wheel drive so not for me. If all the Toyotas go FWD I'll have to move on to Kia Stinger.

2018-Kia-Stinger-Si-0338.jpg
 

mojito

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Nobody buys Teslas for reliability. They are purchased by people who think that electric cars will save the planet. However the last thing they would expect is lack of reliability and this is going to work against Tesla when more and more car manufacturers start churning out electric models.

Hyundai now has an SUV that can do 400km on a single charge and they are far better at mass producing cars than Tesla will ever be.

Who can tell if you are saving the world if you drive a Hyundai? Also important you buy American. For that you need a Tesla. No fight! :cool:
 

mojito

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Everybody is saving the planet...they don't give plastic bags for your groceries...99.99% of things you buy from the supermarket or shops are wrapped in plastic. KFC stop giving plastic straws to save the planet, but you order food or takeaway, they give you plastic cups, plastic spoons, plastic fork & knives, plastic containers, & plastic bags to carry all the plastic utensils inside with the food. The same people that think electric cars will save the planet...eat & shop in places that stop giving them palstic straws or plastic bags..

That is call SAVING THE PLANET.
Aiya halsey ah, we rich people save the world by taking action not by doing nothing! :cool:
 

Leongsam

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Who can tell if you are saving the world if you drive a Hyundai? Also important you buy American. For that you need a Tesla. No fight! :cool:

Can you stop with your "save the world" shit I couldn't care two hoots about saving the world all I said was that was the reason why most idiots bought Teslas.
 

virus

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Tesla should have just outsource its suto assembly to a more competent manufacturer. Plenty of idle car assembly plants in detroit that comes with experience workers. Better than starting on a greenfield site from zero.

elon should move his plant to chennai, the place known to be reliable for unreliably unqualified IT people, with a track record of military craft either falling from the skies or sinking into the sea more less as often as MRT disruption.
 

mojito

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Can you stop with your "save the world" shit I couldn't care two hoots about saving the world all I said was that was the reason why most idiots bought Teslas.
Tesla models can improve so much more compared to other brands. Customers will continue to support Tesla for all the right reasons fear not. :cool:
 

Leongsam

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Tesla models can improve so much more compared to other brands. Customers will continue to support Tesla for all the right reasons fear not. :cool:

Tesla is shit and it will soon go bankrupt.
 

glockman

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I would never buy a Tesla. Their CEO is a habitual pot smoker, goes to show how good their fucking cars are.

 
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