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Evolutionism vs Creationism (aka Intelligent Design)

Psalm23

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Tell us statistically, how many new ideas you have brought into the forum and how many threads you have started? Bo pai say.

Why are you so afraid and frighten that I 'keep harping' on the countless inaccuracies of the bible if you believe they are not? You can refute them, why you dont? Come on lah, the readers are not stupid, though they may be fools:biggrin:

The new evidences I brought in are very related to the topic.

'Stars' off by explaining to us why biblical insects have 4 legs since you are so good with molecules stuff? And the relationship to Intelligent Design.

Please do use the simplest answer I can also give in less than 5min without thinking -that a magical hand did it. That mindless answer, a 6 years also can give and score 100%!

You are just pot calling the kettle black!

And how many ideas you have brought up other than keep harping on and keeping saying evolution is a fact without any substance plust copying and attaching Bible verses after verses.

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You are just pot calling the kettle black!

And how many ideas you have brought up other than keep harping on and keeping saying evolution is a fact without any substance plust copying and attaching Bible verses after verses.

Psalm23


Even you can see that. :biggrin: Atheists are tai-chi masters. :rolleyes:
 

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christians are just ang moh worshippers ... aka sarong party guys and girls.

abandon your own ancient chinese gods and embrace your past british colonial gods.
 

Psalm23

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christians are just ang moh worshippers ... aka sarong party guys and girls.

abandon your own ancient chinese gods and embrace your past british colonial gods.

Fishy,

Historically-speaking, Christianity in Singapore took after not during the time when we were under the British. So, what to do with British colonial? It only took off here in the last 15 years.

So, get your fact right!
 

drifteri

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Who will care about what a shameless lying moniker talk cock in a anonymous forum, whahahahaha. People will pay attention to the chief rabbi and many Christian leaders supporting evolution in the real world :wink:
 
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christians are just ang moh worshippers ... aka sarong party guys and girls.

abandon your own ancient chinese gods and embrace your past british colonial gods.

Atheists are definitely angmoh worshipers.
Ang Mohs secularized their faith, so other like minded people joined them in secularizing their faiths too.

Secularization began in Europe and as it spread like cancer, other societies followed to become atheists like the Ang Mohs too.
 
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christians are just ang moh worshippers ... aka sarong party guys and girls.

abandon your own ancient chinese gods and embrace your past british colonial gods.

Atheists are definitely angmoh worshipers.
Ang Mohs secularized their faith, so other like minded people joined them in secularizing their faiths too.

Secularization began in Europe and as it spreads like cancer, other societies followed to become atheists like the Ang Mohs too.
 
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Psalm23

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......and many Christian leaders supporting evolution in the real world :wink:

Right on! Agree with you 100%. Many support evolution but MOST don't!

Sadly, it is those many who create this false belief are going to face God's judgment for deceiving others. And you are one of those deceived by them. So, it's time to believe with the MOST rather than with the 'many'.

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drifteri

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liar pansai23,
Still want to talk so much cock and nonsense...You never fail to play with words when you lost your argument and have nothing to add:wink: Most and many of the christian churches..presbyterian methodist anglican support evolution. I have debunked many of your lies on religion and recently science..you can only bluff kid with your stupid balloon story...God will send you to hell for telling so much lies:wink:
 

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Even most and many evangelican christians are supporting evolution, many and most testimonies coming...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonath..._b_876345.html

Christian Faith Requires Accepting Evolution

In the evangelical community, the year 2011 has brought a resurgence of debate over evolution. The current issue of Christianity Today asks if genetic discoveries preclude an historical Adam. While BioLogos, the brainchild of NIH director Francis Collins, is seeking to promote theistic evolution among evangelicals, the president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary recently argued that true Christians should believe the Earth is only a few thousand years old.

As someone raised evangelical, I realize anti-evolutionists believe they are defending the Christian tradition. But as a seminary graduate now training to be a medical scientist, I can say that, in reality, they've abandoned it.

In theory, if not always in practice, past Christian theologians valued science out of the belief that God created the world scientists study. Augustine castigated those who made the Bible teach bad science, John Calvin argued that Genesis reflects a commoner's view of the physical world, and the Belgic confession likened scripture and nature to two books written by the same author.

These beliefs encouraged past Christians to accept the best science of their day, and these beliefs persisted even into the evangelical tradition. As Princeton Seminary's Charles Hodge, widely considered the father of modern evangelical theology, put it in 1859: "Nature is as truly a revelation of God as the Bible; and we only interpret the Word of God by the Word of God when we interpret the Bible by science."

In this analysis, Christians must accept sound science, not because they don't believe God created the world, but precisely because they do.

Of course, anti-evolutionists claim their rejection of evolution is not a rejection of science. Phillip Johnson, widely considered the leader of the Intelligent Design movement, states that all he's rejecting is the atheistic lens through which evolutionary scientists view the world. Evolution, he argues, is "based not upon any incontrovertible empirical evidence, but upon a highly philosophical presupposition."

And to a certain extent, this line of argument makes sense. Science is not a neutral enterprise. Prior beliefs undoubtedly influence interpretation. If one believes God created vertebrates with a similar design plan, one can acknowledge their structural similarities without believing in common descent. No amount of dating evidence will convince someone the Earth is 4.5 billion years old if that person believes God created the world to look old, with the appearance of age.

But beyond a certain point, this reasoning breaks down. Because no amount of talk about "worldviews" and "presuppositions" can change a simple fact: creationism has failed to provide an alternative explanation for the vast majority of evidence explained by evolution.

It has failed to explain why birds still carry genes to make teeth, whales to make legs, and humans to make tails.

It has failed to explain why the fossil record proposed by modern scientists can be used to make precise and accurate predictions about the location of transition fossils.

It has failed to explain why the fossil record demonstrates a precise order, with simple organisms in the deepest rocks and more complex ones toward the surface.

It has failed to explain why today's animals live in the same geographical area as fossils of similar species.

It has failed to explain why, if carnivorous dinosaurs lived at the same time as modern animals, we don't find the fossils of modern animals in the stomachs of fossilized dinosaurs.

It has failed to explain the broken genes that litter the DNA of humans and apes but are functional in lower vertebrates.

It has failed to explain how the genetic diversity we observe among humans could have arisen in a few thousand years from two biological ancestors.

Those who believe God created the world scientists study, even while ignoring most of the data compiled by those who study it, might as well rip dozens of pages out of their Bibles. Because if "nature is as truly a revelation of God as the Bible," it's basically the same thing.

Many think the widespread rejection of evolution doesn't really matter. Evolution is about what happened in the past, the argument goes, so rejecting it doesn't have an impact on policies we make today. And aside from school curricula, they may be right.

But the belief that scientists can discover truth, and that, once sufficiently debated, challenged and modified, it should be accepted even if it creates tensions for familiar belief systems, has an obvious impact on decisions that are made everyday. And it is that belief Christians reject when they reject evolution.

In doing so, they've not only led America astray on questions ranging from the value of stem cell research to the etiology of homosexuality to the causes of global warming. They've also abandoned a central commitment of orthodox Christianity.
 

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...God will send you to hell for telling so much lies:wink:

Drifting,

If I am in hell, you will also be there too! But quite unlikely, we are going to be in different places....you think who will go where? And you still believe there is a hell....and frankly I think there is one and hell is prepared for those who rejected the blood of Jesus, to those who refuse to acknowledge Jesus is the Creator of all things, things above the earth and things below the heavens!

Psalm23
 

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Drifting,

If I am in hell, you will also be there too! But quite unlikely, we are going to be in different places....you think who will go where? And you still believe there is a hell....and frankly I think there is one and hell is prepared for those who rejected the blood of Jesus, to those who refuse to acknowledge Jesus is the Creator of all things, things above the earth and things below the heavens!

Psalm23

it is time for you to grow up and get over your imaginary friend.
 

drifteri

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Drifting,

If I am in hell, you will also be there too! But quite unlikely, we are going to be in different places....you think who will go where? And you still believe there is a hell....and frankly I think there is one and hell is prepared for those who rejected the blood of Jesus, to those who refuse to acknowledge Jesus is the Creator of all things, things above the earth and things below the heavens!

Psalm23

big fuck liar pansai23,
You will go to hell...confirm! Your lies you told here are enough for your imaginary friend to put you fucking arsehole there:wink: You father, mother and ancestors will be mad to see you in hell, they will curse you every moment in hell...whahhahahaha.

Sorry to disappoint you I won't go there because I am not a stupid christian and not subjected to the rules...
The bible is created for stupid and kia si people like you... the talking snakes , living in fish stomach alive for 3 days , noah art , virgin mary , parting the seas ....

Your salvation is built by cursing many and most many to hell.

Your character is as good as this verse...
"Happy those who seize your children and smash them against a rock." Psalms 137:9 NAB

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it is time for you to grow up and get over your imaginary friend.

bro fishbluff,
I am very thankful to you for speaking up for an lowly educated fart like me against an EVIL man called psalm23. We know very well there is no hell in the centre of the EARTH mentioned by the stupid and many errors bible:wink:

Hell really scared the shit out of that idiot psalm23. His ancestors will be mad to see him when he goes there soon...very soon:wink:



When his imaginary friend told him to rape his daughters so that he can go to heaven, he won't blink his eyes and obey...

When his imaginary friend told him to sell his daughters as prostitutes to whore house in geylang so that he can go to heaven, he won't blink his eyes and obey...

He shows to us he is another hypocrite idiotic christian...He really defending Jesus and his religion? No lah, no need a scholar to tell he is defending his interest his heaven dream:wink: the bible is created for stupid ppl:wink:
 

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Atheists are definitely angmoh worshipers.
Ang Mohs secularized their faith, so other like minded people joined them in secularizing their faiths too.

Secularization began in Europe and as it spread like cancer, other societies followed to become atheists like the Ang Mohs too.

Any proof that atheism is angmo worshipper ? Do u mean that if you don't believe in condom monster means you are angmo worshipper ? :wink:
 

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The most dangerous aspect of religion is its tendency to glorify the absurd and justify the abhorrent. - Stifyn Emrys
 

drifteri

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Will anyone with thinking head sacrifice their daughters as sex slaves to please condom master ? This shows us how some Christians believe the Bible blindly :wink: the snakes can talk.
 
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The most dangerous aspect of religion is its tendency to glorify the absurd and justify the abhorrent. - Stifyn Emrys

The most dangerous part of secularism - which is actually religion in disguise by having a creed with a pernicious hidden agenda - is its tendency to glorify the absurd and justify the abhorrent.
 

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scientific findings destroyed the myths of the hebrew linked religions, christianity and islam:wink:
 
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