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Is Singapore Opposition Talented ???

one2unite

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times have changed, last time everyone was either a farmer or pesant. being a graduate means confirm big money and job.
now graduate also cannot find job.

Of course, it's not the same. Leaders have to emerge from the people to fulfill the aspirations and expectations of the citizenry. It's not a must that all leaders have to be graduates.

If university graduates are the only people capable of running a government, why not then invite the academics, the trainers of these graduates, to manage the country??
 

peasantJUDGE

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Hi everyone,

Do you think our Opposition are Talented ? Some alway like to any how say and got sue.

What are your view ???

Please share... Thanks



Did you watch Sarah Palin's debut speech at the Republican National Convention? Her full speech can be found on youtube. Our Opposition need someone like that.
 

chinkangkor

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I am not a politician but to answer your question, I have to imagine that I am. If so, I would do the following:

(1) Push for a longer period of campaigning...an election year instead of just a few days

Longer period of election campaigning has been brought up donkey times but has been rejected by the ruling party. That's why we need an independent election commission for the people, not for PAP.
 

kakowi

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Longer period of election campaigning has been brought up donkey times but has been rejected by the ruling party. That's why we need an independent election commission for the people, not for PAP.

I realized that there are indeed many things i do not know.

Therefore just take my major points:

(1) Politics is about votes.

(2) Majority votes win.

(3) Therefore the question is always this: Who are the voters and what do they want.​

Nothing new. Very basic. Key to success.
 

chinkangkor

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Therefore just take my major points:
(1) Politics is about votes.
(2) Majority votes win.
(3) Therefore the question is always this: Who are the voters and what do they want.

These are the very basics of a democracy.

But in between elections, there are activities which political parties should be allowed to carry out in order to reach out to voters.
 

kakowi

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These are the very basics of a democracy.

But in between elections, there are activities which political parties should be allowed to carry out in order to reach out to voters.


Actually chinkangkor, I believe the opposition do not know their voters, their characteristics, how they had changed, their new composition, what they want and how they view them.
 

chinkangkor

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Actually chinkangkor, I believe the opposition do not know their voters, their characteristics, how they had changed, their new composition, what they want and how they view them.

Not that the oppositions don't know about the voters, I think it is the other way round. The voters don't know the opposition candidates well enough to give them the vote.

One cannot discount the fact that the PAP govt is a highly effective and efficient one, which ranks highly on the voters' list.
 

kakowi

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Not that the oppositions don't know about the voters, I think it is the other way round. The voters don't know the opposition candidates well enough to give them the vote.

One cannot discount the fact that the PAP govt is a highly effective and efficient one, which ranks highly on the voters' list.

You know, chinkangkor, if the opposition concentrates on reasons why they can be successful, they may just succeed.

There will always be external factors. But it is the internal factors that ensure success.
 

chinkangkor

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You know, chinkangkor, if the opposition concentrates on reasons why they can be successful, they may just succeed.

There will always be external factors. But it is the internal factors that ensure success.

The opposition parties can't even recruit enough members, let alone suitably qualified people to contest against PAP. Even without the unfair tactics of PAP, the challenges facing the oppositions are tremendously huge.

Are you a member of an opposition party?
 
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Alu862

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The opposition parties can't even recruit enough members, let alone suitably qualified people to contest against PAP. Even without the unfair tactics of PAP, the challenges facing the oppositions are tremendously huge.

Are you a member of an opposition party?

If they stop try to gather false sympathy--ie that the PAP is to blame for every failure of the opposition, they may gather more support. And BESIDES PROTESTING, they should conduct field work to crave policies that entice supporters. SADLY your lovely SDP has not done and may not do that.
 

chinkangkor

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If they stop try to gather false sympathy--ie that the PAP is to blame for every failure of the opposition, they may gather more support. And BESIDES PROTESTING, they should conduct field work to crave policies that entice supporters. SADLY your lovely SDP has not done and may not do that.

PAP has systematically oppressed oppositions and suppressed their activities, to the extent of stunting the growth of opposition parties. There is no way PAP can wriggle out of these facts, especially when it continues to do so although to a much lesser extent.

All opposition parties got their manifestoes to show voters, although this is merely an academic exercise as no opposition parties are challenging the ruling party to govern S'pore.

Peaceful protests are hallmarks of open and tolerant societies.
 
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Alu862

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PAP has systematically oppressed oppositions and suppressed their activities, to the extent of stunting the growth of opposition parties. There is no way PAP can wriggle out of these facts, especially when it continues to do so although to a much lesser extent.

All opposition parties got their manifestoes to show voters, although this is merely an academic exercise as no opposition parties are challenging the ruling party to govern S'pore.

Peaceful protests are hallmarks of open and tolerant societies.

Manifestos are not enough. SDP has porduce no framework at all. WP, minimal based on manifesto. Same for NSP and SDA. RP, what are they for? What is their economic, defence, health policies? Do they think toppling leaderships is the only solution? Democracy is NOT A MAGIC PILL
 

chinkangkor

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Manifestos are not enough. SDP has porduce no framework at all. WP, minimal based on manifesto. Same for NSP and SDA. RP, what are they for? What is their economic, defence, health policies? Do they think toppling leaderships is the only solution? Democracy is NOT A MAGIC PILL

Democracy ensures non-violent transfer of power.

PAP, WP, SDP, NSP etc all fought their elections by presenting to voters their manifestoes. Policy intents contain in the manifesto will be fleshed out by the civil servants together with the political party that wins the election.
 
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Alu862

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Democracy ensures non-violent transfer of power.

PAP, WP, SDP, NSP etc all fought their elections by presenting to voters their manifestoes. Policy intents contain in the manifesto will be fleshed out by the civil servants together with the political party that wins the election.

Democracy can also transfer power to the stupid.
 
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Alu862

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The govt of the day can only be as good as the best in the pool of players that jump into the political fray to contest for power and wins.

Stupid leaders have come to power. People also do not vote rationally all the time.
 

chinkangkor

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Stupid leaders have come to power. People also do not vote rationally all the time.

So one-party state like the one in China without the people voting will solve all the problems, no violent transfer of power, no political instability and the best will always be governing the country?
 
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Alu862

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So one-party state like the one in China without the people voting will solve all the problems, no violent transfer of power, no political instability and the best will always be governing the country?

You're stretching it. Actually yes, look at the economic growth of China vs that of the Philppines, an elected democracy. Or African or Latin American Democracies. Democracy need not alway lead to the best solution. Even western democracies had strong central governments and tight control laws before the liberalised.
 

chinkangkor

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You're stretching it. Actually yes, look at the economic growth of China vs that of the Philppines, an elected democracy. Or African or Latin American Democracies. Democracy need not alway lead to the best solution. Even western democracies had strong central governments and tight control laws before the liberalised.

Philippines under Marcos has a strong central govt. What happened to Philippines under its 30 years rule? Corruption and poverty were the end results. Other African and Latin American countries didn't fare any better under iron fisted rulers either. Their countries were already in a mess when they switched to the democratic model of government, without strong democratic institutions. Indonesia is a case nearer to home.

China has a long tradition of dynastic rule. How long did all these dynasties last before degenerating into chaos? The Qing dynasty lasted not more than 300years. Before Qing dynasty collapsed, rampant corruptions and abuses of power already set in after the first 100 years of rule. Modern China only started to open up in 1978 and it still has some way to go before it reaches its first 100 years. It's still early days yet to say whether the current political structures in China can support its economic liberalisation in the next 50 years of development. The verdict is still out.

The relevant question for S'pore is whether the conditions are riped for Singapore to practice a more open democracy like Britain or Amerca.
 
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