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Your real opponent is the voters ! Oppo leaders Pls read !

Tiu Kwang Yew

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Dear Oppo leaders,

wishing you well !

Many of your sensible supporters want you oppo parties to win votes and enter the parliament !
This is a ray of hope they have ! Many of them are also helping you indirectly by telling their friends and relatives and neighbors to give Oppo parties a chance next GE !

You oppo parties work so hard for the last five years, we hope you go to the GE with the right attitude ---engage the voters and show them ways to live a life !
This is the only way out to win votes before we talk about human rights and democrazy !

The unbridled FT policy may be the result of the past Oppo aggressiveness who were only interested in attacking the PAP people on personal issues and when oppo votes increased insignificantly , it triggered the defensive instinct of the PAP people to protect their power at all costs !

Who suffer then ? Of course the local voters !

The FT policy may have done the magic of diluting but then there are also tragic side effects like COE and COV due to bigger population fighting instensely for space on road and housing ! The richer ones get the deals !
Humanely speaking, 3.5 to 4 million (included Tourists) on the small island is the best figure ! It is too late to talk about it !
Sensible people with wisdom will know the root problem is the immigration but PAP ministers are paid to do a job right !
Just like Pol- pot lieutenants, if they did not carry out the smashing , they got smashed !

Don’t be surprised to hear voters saying “out–of-reach” HDB flats is Ok becos PAP is good govt !
You see, they can allow the PAP to fill up every space of empty land with concrete buildings , a progress that comes with a hefty price ! They vote for people who become millionaires , and they need to sell their houses to help out their children who oredi ill- afford HDB flats, but they still say PAP is a good govt ! Even their children cannot afford to get married , they still will say PAP good ! What can you say ? My God ?
This is like 1 plus 1 equals to 3 mentality !

They still vote for PAP however ! Sadly, this tragic truth is on the ground becos no one else show them the right way and encourage them and rehabilitate them ! Worst of all, these people think PAP is the saint in sinkapore !
When we say North Koreans are crazy lot , are we not tortoises laughing at turtles got no hair ????
You oppo parties can see now what is the real situation at the grassroots ??

Most sinkaporean voters are stubborn, selfish , rude, bad tempered, want face, like to gossip or criticize behind people and lack wisdom -----these people are your real opponents at the GE ! This is also the product of PAP after 45 years !
Unilke north Koreans, sinkapore don’t need a war to rehabilitate the people , you only need to have patience and humility to restore them !

So what if you oppo can win debate with the PAP ministers ? Winning the debate does not necessarily win you votes to the parliament ! This is sinkapore not Hongkong or Taiwan or Japan ! We have to face the stupid truth ! We are just a big factory !

You see why the whole world over, PAP system only survives in sinkapore only !

Just imagine majority voters can accept half of the population being foreigners working on their land competing salary and limited space ! This is utmost tragic that can happen in one country ! The voters are trapped between the first world Govt and third world salary !
If this is go on for another 10 years, 80% will be foreigners , sinkapore is finished !

Now, Look at what you are dealing with before you still insist to fight PAP ministers and becum popular ???

Time is running out for sinkapore, the island is sick, most of the voters need rehabilitation , they need help and sinkapore really needs you !

Next GE, don’t fight PAP people, engage the voters, do something for them , be circumspect !
Propose ideas and plans to the voters !
Promote awareness among the voters ! Tell them don’t just work and go back and watch the Taiwan love story, they have to know the well being of the country ! Just like estate cleanliness, ask them do they know the litter they throw out of the window is cleared up by the Ft workers ? HDB writes reports on that , you know ?

You oppo parties have a solid base of 35% supporters and you just need another 15.1% to win , why let the chance just slip though? Let the voters feel that you are sincere and willing to lead them thick and thin !

Ask earnestly the voters to give you oppo parties a chance work with them and their children !

You have to be humble to win votes, but if you want to be glorified , you lose votes !

Stress again , Humility wins votes !

Make the voters feel responsible and know what they are doing ! Let them know you have other ways to solve their problems! Tell them they are responsible becos they give mandate !

Many of your supporters hope Tanjong Pagar and Ang Mo Kio and Marine Parade GRC are contested next GE !
If all mighty Gods don’t forbid , these three GRCs are won by you oppo parties by a thin margin of only one or two votes each ……..tell you gleefully …..everything is worth living in sinkapore oredi ! You save the Sinkapore island !

If you oppo parties cannot win votes next GE, everything is not real anymore, we have to live artificially like cowed strangers in our own country !!!! Tragic end for us !
The only hope then is just wait for the PAP implosion but this outcome would tear sinkapore apart , all hell sure break lose !

Next GE , if You oppo parties “YAYA” tread your way to square off the PAP at cul-de-sac which you sure get a bloody nose , we become shaken pigs under the sharp hatchet at their slaughter house!
Oppo parties , please help us the 35% to engage the rest of the voters and bring them back to earth to live with us ! !
Our only hope lies within !

Instead of talking about democrazy and human rights which can only win 20% votes, why not focus on some new ideas to replace minimum wage, comcare, workfare which only may benefit certain groups of people right ?
And then, the CPF and HDB have oredi failed big time, why not think of good ideas to offer to the voters ! You will win votes !

FT and Housing and private transport policies are also running down sinkapore and the locals !
Your mode should gravitate towards winning votes and not becoming nobody’s heroes !
Most voters are looking to you oppo parties for solutions! Your strong belief in winning votes will see results !
Remember, turn your disadvantages to you advantages ! Universe will help you ! Law of attraction assist you !
Use powerful -humble words but simple words-----“Give Oppo parties a chance to work with you and your children” ! These words will rock sinkapore next GE, try it !

The ground is definitely no good for PAP, and you should know ! Why lose the 50-50 chance right?

The next GE is not about you oppo parties, is about how you “HUMBLY” engage the voters to win votes !

God help you help us help sinkapore !

May the force be with you !
 
Agree.

Opposition should now face the voters bravely than fighting the PAP !

Only voters can give the Oppo seats in parliament !

True, Hitting PAP hard personally is exposing to more law suits !

Your so many ideas may change our elections history !

25 to 30 seats to the Oppo is a big victory for singapore !

well said !
 
Can I know which oppo the thread starter belongs to or supports?
 
Message for the opposition:
"Your real opponent is the voters".

This statement and advice, I totally agree.
 
hahaha....i have different take.
My concern is that opposition parties are always shooting themselves in the feet.
In-fighting/self interest/power struggles/dirty laundries/open spats are played out regularly.
There are simply too many "opposition parties" in little sinkapore.
 
Message for the opposition:
"Your real opponent is the voters".

This statement and advice, I totally agree.

I view this differently - Opposition's real opponents are themselves, then voters and lastly, the MIW.

Why themselves? They should look at themselves in the mirror first. Ask themselves key questions. Why are they into opposition politics, glory? attention? money? axe to grind? etcetc.

How many dare say and swear, for the people only, period. We need decent chaps who are educated enough to ask probing questions and to know when to praise the MIW. No need to always criticize. Constructive criticism valued. The minds and hearts must be pure and altruism the cardinal factor.

Opposition always shoot themselves - forget forms, sabo others, 3-cornered fights, forget to turn up! It is easier than reading a book ascertaining who are the real and REEL opposition. Saboteurs will wake up from their sleep in time for GE. Bet on this. Even as opposition, never trust all the others.

Voters? If opposition cannot convince themselves, how to convince the voters? 30-35% will vote opposition. They need to focus on the others, especially the 21-16% respectively. Voters are more educated presently. In the past, much easier for the MIW. Our old folks never had trust and believe other than to the MIW. 2010 now, soon 2011. Things will change for the better.

MIW- They have the key advantages where money and manpower are involved. They also have the entire bureaucracy to take advantage of. They can give freebies to the populace etc. The media will assist them.

But, there is one thing the MIW can never ever do. They cannot hold a gun at your head and coerce you to vote them.
 
one very attractive alternative is hire the PR people from the Obama campaign to help increase the charm factor. What to say, when to say, how to say all have a bearing in swaying the electorate. It will make at least a 20% difference. And when the percentage is close, 20% is a lot.
 
one very attractive alternative is hire the PR people from the Obama campaign to help increase the charm factor. What to say, when to say, how to say all have a bearing in swaying the electorate. It will make at least a 20% difference. And when the percentage is close, 20% is a lot.

Opposition have no money. No one of sound mind with money will want to provide the funds for fear of retaliation from the MIW - income tax etc.
 
one very attractive alternative is hire the PR people from the Obama campaign to help increase the charm factor. What to say, when to say, how to say all have a bearing in swaying the electorate. It will make at least a 20% difference. And when the percentage is close, 20% is a lot.

Foreigners (including PRs) aren't allowed in political campaigning activities, including just help hang posters. Only Singaporeans are allowed. Singapore politicians can attend courses held by foreigners, but cannot directly hire them.
 
Everyone is getting so excited over nothing. The next election will merely be another resounding mandate for the PAP. History has proven it time and time again. It doesn't matter how bad life is in Singapore for its citizens, they will always vote for PAP. So it's up to you to make a better life for yourself, elsewhere if necessary, not rely on Singaporeans to vote in the Opposition to make life better for you. Insisting on staying put and putting up with all the shit isn't going to change a thing.
 
It doesn't matter how bad life is in Singapore for its citizens, they will always vote for PAP.
The key question for the opposition is "Why?"
If they can get the answer, that's the key to winning elections.

Or could it be that life in SG is actually not that bad for most?
Or could it be that life in SG is not that bad for most and only bad for some?
How do the pap always get enough votes for each constituency, such that they come in FPTP, even though life is supposedly tough and getting tougher?
 
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It's human nature that one always prefer the familiar.

You want a 2 party system in Singapore? It will take many years for the 2nd party to grow with a more free press (eg Taiwan's DPP) OR an internal split ( eg Malaysia's Anwar).

In fact, Ah Bian won in 2000 because of a KMT split.

It's that simple.


The key question for the opposition is "Why?"
If they can get the answer, that's the key to winning elections.

Or could it be that life in SG is actually not that bad for most?
Or could it be that life in SG is not that bad for most and only bad for some?
How do the pap always get enough votes for each constituency, such that they come in FPTP, even though life is supposedly tough and getting tougher?
 
It's human nature that one always prefer the familiar.

You want a 2 party system in Singapore? It will take many years for the 2nd party to grow with a more free press (eg Taiwan's DPP) OR an internal split ( eg Malaysia's Anwar).

In fact, Ah Bian won in 2000 because of a KMT split.

It's that simple.
True about human nature, but if life is really that tough, it's also human nature to want a change or a better life. So the question is whether it's really that tough, or is it only tough for some and not the majority?

Personally, 1 or 2 party no difference to me.
It is not in the interest of the government in power to have more free press, especially when the people are too meek and docile to demand it.

Ah Bian won in 2004 because of a supposed "split in his stomach". :D

I follow Taiwan politics quite closely. Appears to me that the KMT can be arrogant and lackadaisical, while the DPP can get quite despicable at times. In my opinion, the pappies are worse than the KMT (at least much less afraid of the voters) and the SG opposition are better than the DPP. Yet the DPP can easily get 50% of the votes and perhaps even more, as the recent mayor elections show.
Why are the voters in SG and Taiwan so different?
 
Opposition have no money. No one of sound mind with money will want to provide the funds for fear of retaliation from the MIW - income tax etc.

Money is there if the oppo is determined to find it. There are many, many people both here and overseas with the moolah to help. Four years between each election is enough time to consolidate resources.

I see the way the oppo here is dressed, the way they talk, present themselves, all extremely unprofessional. For starters, stop talking on a pedestal in public. What age are we in now? Conduct town hall discussions, video it down put it on the net and viral it. Standing in public, talking down to the crowd from a stand in a public place ain't going to cut it. Did anyone see how the slick Obama talks to people from small towns in the US? He wears roll-up sleeves with ties, showing that he means business, goes around shaking hands, talking to people from plumbers to teachers. Bring in students, public, workers. Sit them down in a town hall discussion setting. Be more classy. Stop wearing cheap Tshirts when canvassing for votes. Wear short-sleeve shirts with ties or bows. Show some respect.
 
Foreigners (including PRs) aren't allowed in political campaigning activities, including just help hang posters. Only Singaporeans are allowed. Singapore politicians can attend courses held by foreigners, but cannot directly hire them.

Then please go learn from them. Farking ten, twenty years down the road, we will still see the same old talking down to the people from a pedestal, wearing cheapo Tshirts, same no substance trash talk.

The electorate becoming more sophisticated, the politicians heading the other way.

Do something different, change the packaging. Combine that with good oratorical skills and people will sit up and listen.
 
Money is there if the oppo is determined to find it. There are many, many people both here and overseas with the moolah to help. Four years between each election is enough time to consolidate resources. QUOTE

If I have loads of cash to spare, would I pump it to the oppsotion? The authorities monitor such donations.

Most of the rich are funding the MIW. Why? Coz there are benefits in doing so.
 
Money is there if the oppo is determined to find it. There are many, many people both here and overseas with the moolah to help. Four years between each election is enough time to consolidate resources. QUOTE

If I have loads of cash to spare, would I pump it to the oppsotion? The authorities monitor such donations.

Most of the rich are funding the MIW. Why? Coz there are benefits in doing so.

If the oppo is resourceful enough, they'll circumvent this hurdle. Part of being an effective political party is to find the funds to support your party.
 
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