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Serious Thum Ping Tjin Vs Shan

ChanRasjid

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Can ask Shan to swim across the English Channel ???


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Indeed! Swimming across the English Channel is a big feat - should sure salute him.

Mao Tze Tung and his troops too did an epic strategic military retreat - a two thousand five hundred li long march chased and pounded by Chiang Kai Shek's planes; they succeeded. Mao Tze Tung too had great physical stamina. But a man with great stamina too may have too much vigor and the flux may go everywhere unregulated.

Peng Dehuai was one of his greatest general who contributed very much to the success of the Red Army. It was he who lead the Chinese in the Korean War. But Peng openly criticized Mao at one of the plenary Congress about the failure of the Great Leap forward program. Mao was vindictive. He later had Peng imprisoned for life. Peng (greatly admired by the Chinese) just before he died wanted to have a view of the outdoor sunshine - he was hospitalized and they patched all the windows with newspaper to make sure he sees no light! - to what ends human can go towards vindictiveness, but kind to animals! Peng died without seeing sunshine in his last days.

So people with great physical vitality may have it leading him going astray - as a professor of history saying "Singapore not discovered by Sir Raffles" causing a revolution in Singapore bringing the Workers Party to power instead!:(

Physical vitality comes from bread, but ...

Matthew 4:4:
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Does Thum say the Lord's prayer before biting into beefsteak!:oops:
 

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Indeed! Swimming across the English Channel is a big feat - should sure salute him.

Mao Tze Tung and his troops too did an epic strategic military retreat - a two thousand five hundred li long march chased and pounded by Chiang Kai Shek's planes; they succeeded. Mao Tze Tung too had great physical stamina. But a man with great stamina too may have too much vigor and the flux may go everywhere unregulated.

Peng Dehuai was one of his greatest general who contributed very much to the success of the Red Army. It was he who lead the Chinese in the Korean War. But Peng openly criticized Mao at one of the plenary Congress about the failure of the Great Leap forward program. Mao was vindictive. He later had Peng imprisoned for life. Peng (greatly admired by the Chinese) just before he died wanted to have a view of the outdoor sunshine - he was hospitalized and they patched all the windows with newspaper to make sure he sees no light! - to what ends human can go towards vindictiveness, but kind to animals! Peng died without seeing sunshine in his last days.

So people with great physical vitality may have it leading him going astray - as a professor of history saying "Singapore not discovered by Sir Raffles" causing a revolution in Singapore bringing the Workers Party to power instead!:(

Physical vitality comes from bread, but ...

Matthew 4:4:


Does Thum say the Lord's prayer before biting into beefsteak!:oops:


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many thanks. are u also a Historian ? i mean this forum resident Historian . moral of the story and all - we need more Historians. Good historians. :biggrin:
 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_4:4

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Matthew 4:4 is the fourth verse of the fourth chapter of the Gospel of Matthew in the New Testament. Jesus, who has been fasting in the desert, has just been encouraged by Satan to make bread from stones to relieve his hunger, in this verse he rejects this idea.
In the King James Version of the Bible the text reads:
But he answered and said, It is
written, Man shall not live by
bread alone, but by every word that
proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
The World English Bible translates the passage as:
But he answered, "It is written,
‘Man shall not live by bread alone,
but by every word that proceeds
out of the mouth of God.’"
For a collection of other versions see BibRef Matthew 4:4
Jesus rebuts Satan's advances by quoting scripture. The verse in question is from Deuteronomy 8:3. In its original context the verse is describing how while wandering through the wilderness in Exodus the Israelites lacked food. Despite God's promises they complained and worried about their hunger, but in the end God provided manna to feed them all. This same reply is also quoted in Luke 4:4, though in Luke it is somewhat abbreviated not containing "but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God." The quote uses the exact wording of the Septuagint, but Hill notes that it is not an exact translation of the original Hebrew which has "everything" rather than "every word."[1] Gundry feels the author of Matthew added this section to emphasize Jesus' obedience to God.[2] Jones states that by replying with nothing but quotes from scripture Jesus illustrates his "perfect detachment from everything except God's will."[3]
Jesus rejects Satan's idea, and uses nothing but a word of scripture as his argument. France notes that God's word would not literally make up for not having any food. Instead it is a question of priority. If God instructed Jesus to fast in the desert, then it is that word that must be followed and it takes priority over any feelings such as hunger.[4]
There are a number of explanations for why Satan attempted to have Jesus turn stones into bread and why it was important that Jesus refuse. The act of using God's powers to create bread is not in itself wrong, as demonstrated in Matthew 14 and 15 where Jesus actually does perform this miracle. In the Middle Ages it became common to argue that Satan was simply tempting Christ into gluttony. Most modern scholars do not accept this view. France notes that tempt should better be translated as test that Satan was testing Jesus' understanding of his role rather than luring him into evil.[5] Jones notes that calling someone who has fasted for forty days gluttonous because they want food is not very fair. Most modern scholars thus reject the sin explanation.[6] Another view that was popular for a time was that this represented Jesus rejecting the role of the "economic messiah," that in this verse he demonstrates that it is not his role to feed the hungry of the world, but rather to provide spiritual sustenance. The most popular view today is that this passage echoes the history of Israel. The quote itself comes from the part of the Old Testament describing the period after the Exodus when the Israelites were wandering hungry in the wilderness and complaining about their hunger. This verse is seen to demonstrate that Jesus does not make the same mistake they did and accepts that God will ensure his safety.
The phrase "man shall not live by bread alone" is today a common expression meaning that people need more than material things to truly live. However, it is also sometimes used in almost the opposite sense to justify materials luxuries beyond simple things like bread. Fortna notes that the word usually translated as man would more accurately be replaced by human beings as in the original Greek it is gender neutral.[7]
 

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It is good to read just the scripture. However, reading interpretations from others is dangerous. You could be absorbing 'fake' information.

If one does not understand after reading the scripture, pray for understanding and enlightenment. Do not try to interprete through words used or inferences. If it is time for one to understand, a simple event or happening will let him see light.
 

steffychun

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http://www.blueskiescom.com/alumni/feb_mar_13/acs_traditions.html

Another such inspirational story is that of Thum Ping Tjin, who on 6 August 2005 did Singapore and ACS proud when he became the first Singaporean to swim solo the 34-kilometer English Channel. When he finally reached French soil after 12 hours and 24 minutes, exhausted but triumphant, the first thing he did as he staggered ashore was to raise the ACS flag. Indeed a poignant tribute to his Alma Mater!

acs_traditions_thum_ping_tjin.jpg
 

steffychun

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http://www.blueskiescom.com/alumni/feb_mar_13/acs_traditions.html

Another such inspirational story is that of Thum Ping Tjin, who on 6 August 2005 did Singapore and ACS proud when he became the first Singaporean to swim solo the 34-kilometer English Channel. When he finally reached French soil after 12 hours and 24 minutes, exhausted but triumphant, the first thing he did as he staggered ashore was to raise the ACS flag. Indeed a poignant tribute to his Alma Mater!

acs_traditions_thum_ping_tjin.jpg
Shows who he respects. ACS not Sinkieland.
 

CoffeeAhSoh

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It is good to read just the scripture. However, reading interpretations from others is dangerous. You could be absorbing 'fake' information.

If one does not understand after reading the scripture, pray for understanding and enlightenment. Do not try to interprete through words used or inferences. If it is time for one to understand, a simple event or happening will let him see light.
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agreed. 50+ years ago events already so many interpretations.

2000 to 3000 yrs ago event even more complicating to say the least :(
 

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It would be difficult to sue him for what he said during the select committee hearings; testimony is protected by privilege (similar to parliament). He could try to cook up a perjury charge, though.

If Shan fuck not thinking of who to sue now I chop!
 

steffychun

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It would be difficult to sue him for what he said during the select committee hearings; testimony is protected by privilege (similar to parliament). He could try to cook up a perjury charge, though.
I thought it is priviledge for MPs only not witnesses?
 

theblackhole

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prof thum completely shattered , speechless - all his sophistry and faking exposed
minister shamu torn him to bits and pieces like a hyena
prof thum just shook his head in defeat bowing his head and giving a squimy smile
he lost
all the representatives shot down by minister shamu with FACTS NOT FAKED NEWS OR HERESY
minister shamu won
singapore is proud of minister shamu
majulah singapura
 

zeebjii

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http://www.blueskiescom.com/alumni/feb_mar_13/acs_traditions.html

Another such inspirational story is that of Thum Ping Tjin, who on 6 August 2005 did Singapore and ACS proud when he became the first Singaporean to swim solo the 34-kilometer English Channel. When he finally reached French soil after 12 hours and 24 minutes, exhausted but triumphant, the first thing he did as he staggered ashore was to raise the ACS flag. Indeed a poignant tribute to his Alma Mater!

acs_traditions_thum_ping_tjin.jpg
Forever grateful to him for denying malaysian khoo swee chiow the chance of becoming the first "singaporean" to do it. He must have been so gutted that he failed in his attempt anyway.
 

CoffeeAhSoh

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We have a copy of "MEMOIRS...XXX" somewhere - I think. My nephew is a straight guy - an accountant - who believes in "the book".

I saw the "book" lying around and I turned few pages... the only memory of history in the book was Sir Stamford Raffles discovered Singapore and named it after the animal Singa..., then the immigrants came and we become one nation PERIOD.

Or did I missed some critical history?:eek: like "Operation Magnolia Icecream"

Operation Coldstore(age) was in 1963.

Shan was only 3 y.o. , Thum not born yet..

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Operation Coldstore(age) was in 1963.

Shan was only 3 y.o. , Thum not born yet..

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when that and operation spectrum happened, everyone i know was looking around and when "all clear" was sounded breathed a collective sigh of relief.... "heng ah not me." that's the sinkie mindset, yesteryear and today. so long as it doesn't affect "me" the shiok simple sinkie life of kopi, kaya toast, kueh kueh, karaoke, kio kway, kpkb goes on.
 

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when that and operation spectrum happened, everyone i know was looking around and when "all clear" was sounded breathed a collective sigh of relief.... "heng ah not me." that's the sinkie mindset, yesteryear and today. so long as it doesn't affect "me" the shiok simple sinkie life of kopi, kaya toast, kueh kueh, karaoke, kio kway, kpkb goes on.
Purges are the preferred tool of desperado dictators. Have been so since the history of the world began.
 
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