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This is probably what Jesus actually looked like.

hofmann

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Very likely he did not die on the cross. His legs were not broken to hasten asphyxiation. Remember the executioners (Romans) did not have a problem with Jesus, he broke no laws of their. It was only the Jewish leaders who hated Jesus. Hence, he was allowed to be rescued and eventually nursed back to health.

Sounds plausible... More so than being beamed up by Scotty!
 

whoami

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Very likely he did not die on the cross. His legs were not broken to hasten asphyxiation. Remember the executioners (Romans) did not have a problem with Jesus, he broke no laws of their. It was only the Jewish leaders who hated Jesus. Hence, he was allowed to be rescued and eventually nursed back to health.

1400 years ago prophet Muhammad told us thru the Quran tat Jesus is a human n did not die at the cross. Dont understand why u people pening jan kepala doing unnecessay researcb. Answers already in the Quran.:smile:

https://quran.com/4/157-167?translations=20
 

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1400 years ago prophet Muhammad told us thru the Quran tat Jesus is a human n did not die at the cross. Dont understand why u people pening jan kepala doing unnecessay researcb. Answers already in the Quran.:smile:

https://quran.com/4/157-167?translations=20
Abang, but the Quran is also a religious book like the Bible. Both have lots of fairy tales mixed with half truths and biased writings. What we seek is secular unbiased writings lah.:biggrin:
 

whoami

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Abang, but the Quran is also a religious book like the Bible. Both have lots of fairy tales mixed with half truths and biased writings. What we seek is secular unbiased writings lah.:biggrin:

But its the truth. Quran said Jesus did not die on the cross. Quran did not copy the bible as wat most xtians claimed. Prophet told the truth. Atheist also agree on tis point. :smile:
 

hofmann

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1400 years ago prophet Muhammad told us thru the Quran tat Jesus is a human n did not die at the cross. Dont understand why u people pening jan kepala doing unnecessay researcb. Answers already in the Quran.:smile:

https://quran.com/4/157-167?translations=20

Your conspiracy theory also not bad, that they used a body double (and probably bribing the guards too, to not look so closely at the dude on the cross)

So according to the Quran, what happened after they faked his death?
 

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But its the truth. Quran said Jesus did not die on the cross. Quran did not copy the bible as wat most xtians claimed. Prophet told the truth. Atheist also agree on tis point. :smile:
Actually, everyone knows Jesus probably did not die on the cross. Except the Christians.
 

whoami

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Your conspiracy theory also not bad, that they used a body double (and probably bribing the guards too, to not look so closely at the dude on the cross)

So according to the Quran, what happened after they faked his death?

Jesus pbuh was physically raised to Heaven. If Allah want it to happen HE will said "Be n it shall Be". Just likr how Jesus pbuh was borned miraculously without any male intervention. Jesus pbuh, as an infant, even spoke in defence of his mother (Mary) when latter was slandered by the public for not being a righteous woman.
 

whoami

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Actually, everyone knows Jesus probably did not die on the cross. Except the Christians.

Churches cannot afford to loo$e their flock. Power n money! If they really follow wat their bible taught tat jesus was a human n not a god then tere would be no xtianity. :smile:
 
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glockman

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Churches cannot afford to loo$e their flock. Power n money! If they really follow wat their bible taught tat jesus was a human n not a god then tere would be no xtianity. :smile:
The resurrection is the basis of Christianity. No resurrection = no Christianity.
 

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Actually, everyone knows Jesus probably did not die on the cross. Except the Christians.

How did everyone know that Jesus didn't die on the cross?

The moslems don't know that. They are just arab cocksuckers who buy up all the crap their arab masters told them after conquering them militarily or culturally.
 
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glockman

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How did everyone know that Jesus didn't die on the cross?

The moslems don't know that. They are just arab cocksuckers who buy up all the crap their arab masters told them after conquering them militarily or culturally.
Because he was reported to have appeared to witnesses and spoke with them days after the crucifixion.
 
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whoami

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Because he was reported to have appeared to witnesses and spoke with them days after the crucifixion.

U read the bible n use some common sense. U would know jesus pbuh was alive. Just like wat jesus said abt jonah's 3 day/nites episode...n still alive.:smile:
 

hofmann

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Jesus pbuh was physically raised to Heaven. If Allah want it to happen HE will said "Be n it shall Be". Just likr how Jesus pbuh was borned miraculously without any male intervention. Jesus pbuh, as an infant, even spoke in defence of his mother (Mary) when latter was slandered by the public for not being a righteous woman.

Do u have the exact verse that says this?
 

glockman

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Jesus is real....................just like Harry Potter and Darth Vader.................
Joke aside, the historical Jesus really existed. Secular history from the 1st century mentioned him. He was a wise and popular teacher of morals. It was his followers and the early church that deified him.
 

whoami

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Joke aside, the historical Jesus really existed. Secular history from the 1st century mentioned him. He was a wise and popular teacher of morals. It was his followers and the early church that deified him.

The churches taught their flocks all is halal. Pork n alcohol halal. Cheat, lies, committing adultery all halal. Just be sure u believe god DIE for your sins. U will be safe!
 

tanwahtiu

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A Jewish tribe king named Josephus surrendered to the Romans fight with weapons and soldiers... he was mentioned in the Bible...

Then he found this 3rd messanic revolution leader holy priesthood Jesus using special God tactic to try topple the Romans Empire. Non violent way to fight a war with the ruler BE....

This priesthood Jesus and his men used the Prophet Isiah 52 prediction that their God Yehweh will descends from heaven to reign over Isreal on this Sabbath day.... this is similar to India Ghandi non violent war with the ruler...

He wrote about it and it become a fairly tale God story for Romans Empire to use. Romans Empire was looking to change religion and adopt his story make Jesus the God.... hehehe


Hope this help...


Joke aside, the historical Jesus really existed. Secular history from the 1st century mentioned him. He was a wise and popular teacher of morals. It was his followers and the early church that deified him.
 
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