This is probably what Jesus actually looked like.

[JohnTan]

Because he was reported to have appeared to witnesses and spoke with them days after the crucifixion.

Jesus was crucified in public. So either he actually wasn't crucified, or everyone couldn't tell that the wrong guy was on the cross due to a clever bait-and-switch. Maybe possible, especially since Jesus was beaten bloody prior to crucifixion.

Well, there's already been a lot of discussion about the crucifixion of Christ here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucifixion_of_Jesus

Some may laugh at the crucifixion of Christ and claim that it's an easy passport to heaven. Sin at will, still go to heaven. Ultimately, a person saved by grace doesn't sin freely even though being human, they still do sin.

If you want to sin freely and still go to heaven, be a moslem. When moslems cheat, kill and have sex with kids, people know that they did so following their prophet's past behavior. When Christians sin at will, we know that they are not following Christ because Christ never once in his life sinned.

 

[Rogue Trader]

I hope all of you Christians realise this Jesus Christ fella is nothing more than an equivalent of an ah neh holy man .. his feats of miracles are still witnessed up till today by thousands of followers of these holy men gurus across India.

The difference is his name has been used for a very successful political campaign by Europeans

 

[glockman]

A Jewish tribe king named Josephus surrendered to the Romans fight with weapons and soldiers... he was mentioned in the Bible...

Then he found this 3rd messanic revolution leader holy priesthood Jesus using special God tactic to try topple the Romans Empire. Non violent way to fight a war with the ruler BE....

This priesthood Jesus and his men used the Prophet Isiah 52 prediction that their God Yehweh will descends from heaven to reign over Isreal on this Sabbath day.... this is similar to India Ghandi non violent war with the ruler...

He wrote about it and it become a fairly tale God story for Romans Empire to use. Romans Empire was looking to change religion and adopt his story make Jesus the God.... hehehe


Hope this help...

Perhaps you are referring to a different Josephus?

 

[glockman]

Jesus was crucified in public. So either he actually wasn't crucified, or everyone couldn't tell that the wrong guy was on the cross due to a clever bait-and-switch. Maybe possible, especially since Jesus was beaten bloody prior to crucifixion.

Well, there's already been a lot of discussion about the crucifixion of Christ here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucifixion_of_Jesus

Some may laugh at the crucifixion of Christ and claim that it's an easy passport to heaven. Sin at will, still go to heaven. Ultimately, a person saved by grace doesn't sin freely even though being human, they still do sin.

If you want to sin freely and still go to heaven, be a moslem. When moslems cheat, kill and have sex with kids, people know that they did so following their prophet's past behavior. When Christians sin at will, we know that they are not following Christ because Christ never once in his life sinned.

He was crucified. Don't buy into the Quran's tale of a switcheroo. Whether he died or not, remains the point of contention. Yet we know that dead people are quite incapable of walking and speaking.

 

[bushtucker]

Because he was reported to have appeared to witnesses and spoke with them days after the crucifixion.

He came back as a living human being or an apparition/ghost?

 

[glockman]

He came back as a living human being or an apparition/ghost?

What if he didn't die? So he didn't come back from anywhere, because he hasn't gone anywhere.

 

[tanwahtiu]

Tell me which one then...

Perhaps you are referring to a different Josephus?

 

[glockman]

Tell me which one then...

Flavius Josephus, he was a 1st century Jewish priest, scholar, and historian

 

[whoami]

He was crucified. Don't buy into the Quran's tale of a switcheroo. Whether he died or not, remains the point of contention. Yet we know that dead people are quite incapable of walking and speaking.

Jesus was alive. When the scribes n pharisses asked for a sign, Jesus mentioned Jonahs episode where he was alive in the whale belly for 3 days/nites. So jesus did not die but was raised physically to heaven. U see, when Quran mentioned smthing similar to bible the xtians will say Quran copied it. But when Quran mentioned stories tats not in the bible xtians will say the Prophet spinned the stories.

 

[glockman]

Jesus was alive. When the scribes n pharisses asked for a sign, Jesus mentioned Jonahs episode where he was alive in the whale belly for 3 days/nites. So jesus did not die but was raised physically to heaven. U see, when Quran mentioned smthing similar to bible the xtians will say Quran copied it. But when Quran mentioned stories tats not in the bible xtians will say the Prophet spinned the stories.

He did not die but was physically raised to heaven? Your 21st century mind believes he was beamed up into the sky?

And speaking of Jonah surviving three days and nights in the belly of the whale (Yes, Jesus referenced the Book of Jonah to imply his own "resurrection"), Jonah could breathe while in the whale's digestive system? The whale stomach acid did not vaporise him?

Forgive me, but it all looks like a fantastical story to me.

 

[JohnTan]

He was crucified. Don't buy into the Quran's tale of a switcheroo. Whether he died or not, remains the point of contention. Yet we know that dead people are quite incapable of walking and speaking.

At this point, it's either believe by faith that Jesus was resurrected, or the story of Jesus was plagarized from Egyptian tales of resurrection of Iris and Horus, or the whole damn thing is just hogwash.

I just find it hard that the the roman guards tasked to guard Jesus' corpse would allow the corpse to be stolen or let a dying convict on the cross escape. It would probably mean a death sentence for them.

 

[whoami]

He did not die but was physically raised to heaven? Your 21st century mind believes he was beamed up into the sky?

And speaking of Jonah surviving three days and nights in the belly of the whale (Yes, Jesus referenced the Book of Jonah to imply his own "resurrection"), Jonah could breathe while in the whale's digestive system? The whale stomach acid did not vaporise him?

Forgive me, but it all looks like a fantastical story to me.

All Allah need to say is Be n it shall Be. Tats how jesus was borned without male intervention. Was tat a fantastical story to u too?

Btw i also believe in miracles n angels too at tis modern science n technology age.

 

[Reddog]

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Fake lah. So different from the photo taken when jesus was alive.

 

[glockman]

At this point, it's either believe by faith that Jesus was resurrected, or the story of Jesus was plagarized from Egyptian tales of resurrection of Iris and Horus, or the whole damn thing is just hogwash.

I just find it hard that the the roman guards tasked to guard Jesus' corpse would allow the corpse to be stolen or let a dying convict on the cross escape. It would probably mean a death sentence for them.

I believe that Jesus was a great man. A wise teacher of morals with a large following. And despite his popularity, he led a humble life.

As regards the resurrection, thanks for drawing my attention to its parallel with the Egyptian tales of resurrection. Yes, people sure like to copy ideas and stories.

Jesus had two wealthy friends. Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus (they were present during and after the crucifixion. And soldiers weren't paid well, so they were probably bribed.

 

[glockman]

All Allah need to say is Be n it shall Be. Tats how jesus was borned without male intervention. Was tat a fantastical story to u too?

Btw i also believe in miracles n angels too at tis modern science n technology age.

Jesus's biological father was Joseph. His mother was Mary. Joseph and Mary had four other sons, James, Joseph, Judas and Simon. They also had daughters.

 

[whoami]

Jesus's biological father was Joseph.

LOL!

 

[glockman]

LOL!

Why you laugh? Anyway, it's nice to see a muslim defending the "divinity" of Jesus Christ.

 

[UltimaOnline]

Why you laugh? Anyway, it's nice to see a muslim defending the "divinity" of Jesus Christ.

 

[whoami]

Why you laugh? Anyway, it's nice to see a muslim defending the "divinity" of Jesus Christ.

Bro, tell me lah. Can a creator die? N the Creator die for His creation???

 

[whoami]

Why you laugh? Anyway, it's nice to see a muslim defending the "divinity" of Jesus Christ.

Look at our resident xtians here. All supporting zionist Israel. Their xtian bros at Gaza were discriminated...xtians here supported Israel.

https://www.todayonline.com/world/i...ns-visiting-bethlehem-and-jerusalem-christmas