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sleaguepunter

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There was a tesla in vivo at the begining of the year. They were promoting the vehicle and giving test drive to public.

100 miles not very far, basically the distance an american on average commute everyday. But the question is 100 miles range at what speed. What the average live span of the batteries before they need to be change, how much will that cost? Will speed charge damage the batteries?

I dont believe in battery technology, i think the hydogen fuel cell is the way to go. Battery powered car go suffer the same fate as the beta tape.
 

eatshitndie

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with the s&p, dow and nasdaq down big time today, tsla is still going up at over 1% today. it's now at 155.2. amazing.
 

eatshitndie

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the usd60k basic 160-mile range s-model is no longer in production. the lowest cost model is now the 230-mile range s-model at an msrp of usd70k.
 

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the usd60k basic 160-mile range s-model is no longer in production. the lowest cost model is now the 230-mile range s-model at an msrp of usd70k.

[h=3]Results for AUGUST 2013 2nd Open Bidding Exercise[/h]Cat A Car 1600cc & below $76,223
Cat B Car above 1600cc $76,607
Cat E Open $79,223

Go figure, sinkies are fucked
 

eatshitndie

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[h=3]Results for AUGUST 2013 2nd Open Bidding Exercise[/h]Cat A Car 1600cc & below $76,223
Cat B Car above 1600cc $76,607
Cat E Open $79,223

Go figure, sinkies are fucked

sinkies are truly f*cked. :eek:
 
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eatshitndie

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the tesla s-model touch screen display is about twice the size of an i-pad, and it can virtually have split screens showing different tasks at the same time, such as battery consumption and optimization on top and turn-by-turn street navigation below. no seam. very sleek. tech package costs an additional usd3500. has 5-star safety rating, highest of any car on the market.
 

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the tesla s-model touch screen display is about twice the size of an i-pad, and it can virtually have split screens showing different tasks at the same time, such as battery consumption and optimization on top and turn-by-turn street navigation below. no seam. very sleek. tech package costs an additional usd3500. has 5-star safety rating, highest of any car on the market.

So jealous of you guys have opportunity to get hold if such ride. Really, if Sony have the infrastructure it's so difficult to use a car like this. Hey when an owner buys a Tesla do they include a charging kit that can be installed at home for like overnight charging? If they do then it will lot be a problem to get the car and just use it like from home to office and back. And if they provide the charging kit can an owner buys an extra set like to put in a trunk and can like charge it at a friend's place?
 

eatshitndie

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So jealous of you guys have opportunity to get hold if such ride. Really, if Sony have the infrastructure it's so difficult to use a car like this. Hey when an owner buys a Tesla do they include a charging kit that can be installed at home for like overnight charging? If they do then it will lot be a problem to get the car and just use it like from home to office and back. And if they provide the charging kit can an owner buys an extra set like to put in a trunk and can like charge it at a friend's place?

tesla has a "quick" charging station that can be installed in the garage of a home. at 220-240v, it can fully charge the s-model within an hour. otherwise, a conventional 220-240v charging station can charge the car within 3 hours. all american homes have mostly 110-120v outlets. there is typically a 240v outlet for the dryer and another for the oven if they're both electrical. to charge the s-model in the garage, a new 240v outlet will have to be installed with new thicker gauge cables to the trip panel. trip assembly will also have to be upgraded. there's no portable charging station today, but perhaps we can invent one. it has to have a power converter to connect to 240v source.
 

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tesla has a "quick" charging station that can be installed in the garage of a home. at 220-240v, it can fully charge the s-model within an hour. otherwise, a conventional 220-240v charging station can charge the car within 3 hours. all american homes have mostly 110-120v outlets. there is typically a 240v outlet for the dryer and another for the oven if they're both electrical. to charge the s-model in the garage, a new 240v outlet will have to be installed with new thicker gauge cables to the trip panel. trip assembly will also have to be upgraded. there's no portable charging station today, but perhaps we can invent one. it has to have a power converter to connect to 240v source.

So for 240V its no problem in Singapore and Thailand. All one needs is a bloody garage and in Thailand's case its no problem too. So one could actually have a charging station at home of course and another one in the office. Hmmmm this is getting interesting.

Ok next whether Tesla builds lefthand-drive cars. Gosh you're tempting me mate!
 

eatshitndie

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So for 240V its no problem in Singapore and Thailand. All one needs is a bloody garage and in Thailand's case its no problem too. So one could actually have a charging station at home of course and another one in the office. Hmmmm this is getting interesting.

Ok next whether Tesla builds lefthand-drive cars. Gosh you're tempting me mate!

yup, you can also have a charging station at work if you're the towkay with a reserved spot. at home in the tropics, a parking port will do if there's an outlet on the wall. a walled in garage is ideal for homes with cold winters. tesla is market-teasing (not testing) in hk and sg, with an eye towards high end auto buyers. they are also exploring the uk market. most likely, they will launch the current s-model in western europe before committing to the uk, japan, hk and sg markets with the wrong-hand drive model.
 

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yup, you can also have a charging station at work if you're the towkay with a reserved spot. at home in the tropics, a parking port will do if there's an outlet on the wall. a walled in garage is ideal for homes with cold winters. tesla is market-teasing (not testing) in hk and sg, with an eye towards high end auto buyers. they are also exploring the uk market. most likely, they will launch the current s-model in western europe before committing to the uk, japan, hk and sg markets with the wrong-hand drive model.

I'll keep an eye on this for sure, gosh I like to be teased and tickled.
 

eatshitndie

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who owns tesla? ...

it has gone ipo, and is now a public-listed company. board of governance info is here:

http://ir.teslamotors.com/governance.cfm

you can tell who are the major shareholders from the board of governance. the u.s. gov owns part of it since they provided financing during start-up years. toyota is an equity partner thru' the long term lease of the former gm-toyota plant in fremont. elon musk is the founder and ceo.
 
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it has gone ipo, and is now a public-listed company. board of governance info is here:

http://ir.teslamotors.com/governance.cfm

you can tell who are the major shareholders from the board of governance. the u.s. gov owns part of it since they provided financing during start-up years. toyota is an equity partner thru' the long term lease of the former gm-toyota plant in fremont. elon musk is the founder and ceo.

Both his wives are deliciously beautiful, slurp slurp.
 

eatshitndie

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Both his wives are deliciously beautiful, slurp slurp.

he is now regarded as the new king and hero of silicon valley, after steve jobs' passing. wall street is also in love with the new hero. young, dynamic, bold, reasonable looking, white, charismatic. everything that sinkie politicians do not have. :p
 

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TS you are out of your mind. Cars are so cheap in US why would anyone dish out this much money to buy a car that is only good for going to the grocery store? You need to buy a tow truck at the same time. Elon Musk has been engaging in public catfights with critics and reviewers including Topgear and New York Times... he lost the suit in UK and his accusation against NYT reviewer appears to be doing him more damage.
 

eatshitndie

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TS you are out of your mind. Cars are so cheap in US why would anyone dish out this much money to buy a car that is only good for going to the grocery store? You need to buy a tow truck at the same time. Elon Musk has been engaging in public catfights with critics and reviewers including Topgear and New York Times... he lost the suit in UK and his accusation against NYT reviewer appears to be doing him more damage.

some major questions cross my mind about the limited range of electric cars in general, and charging time required. especially in california with long distance driving.

for example, a 230-mile range car can make a round trip to pebble beach and back home in the bay area in 1 charge. making side trips along the way and to carmel may be bit of a stretch. a recharging station at pebble beach may provide relief and give confidence for daring the detours. otherwise, a driver becomes constantly anxious of the remaining battery life, which may spoil the unwinding purpose of the trip altogether. assume there are recharging stations at every 100-mile along the way, another problem arises. are there enough stations and parking spots available when a driver arrives hoping to find a station? the last thing a driver wants is to wait in line behind the wheel for hours to get a recharge.

going south to l.a. also crosses my mind. along i-5, the midpoint charging station is in harris ranch. at least, the ranch provides a great steak restaurant for a hefty lunch break. and there are other things and a shop to spend some waiting time while the car is being recharged. the problem remains with the long queue. what if a dozen tesla drivers are thinking the exact same thing doing it at the exact same time? and there are only a handful of charging stations. a 300-mile range car will never get to l.a. from s.f. without recharging at either coalinga, harris ranch or bakersfield along i-5. in fact, bakersfield is stretching it. and if all goes well, what about the destination in l.a.? los angeles is such a freaking huge sprawling city with sub-cities and towns that driving from one end to the other will deplete the charge. not all hotels or motels have electric car charging stations, let alone tesla-installed fast chargers. my friend's home in anaheim or santa monica may not have a 240v outlet and charger.

tesla plans to build their patented fast chargers all over in california at selected locations along popular routes. they have a roadmap to build fast chargers every 100-mile along popular freeways from california to new york. the problem is they are not everywhere like a gas station. a driver will have to plan his route, timing and driving with those charging stations in mind. for example, between san diego and las vegas, there's no charging station in san bernandino or barstow. if an sf driver decides to hang around in san bernandino or riverside for a weekend, he will have to drive to hollywood, san diego, or las vegas for the nearest charging station. :eek:

a portable charger with transformer/converter will come in handy, but it will be an extra heavy load to carry or drive around, taking away luggage space and draining battery life.

price-wise, it targets the luxury segment, so it's no object. reality is you don't drive this car to a mexican flea market, chinatown or the hood. it will get dinked, scratched, stolen or broken into. it's perfect for the elysium-type gated communities with large homes, multi-door garages, pools, self-contained amenities such as mall, spa and shops dedicated for the wealthy. definitely for early adopters and the successful, ready to splash and spin, despite what naysayers and detractors will say. :biggrin:
 
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