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Originally Posted by Goh Meng Seng View Post
Dear Green Light,
Thank you for your feedback.
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Singapore is built on the core values of "Meritocracy" and "accountability" is the most important part of Meritocracy. One can demand super high salary but there must be accountability. That is the gist of it. IF not, that would be a mockery of Meritocracy.
Goh Meng Seng
GMS, so much can be said about to you! Empty vessel!
MERITOCRACY is the CORE pillar that supports Singapore's value and Singapore's way of assessment and rewards for life in Singapore, a political ETHOS EPOCH by PAP.
If you subscribe to meritocracy then you cannot subscribe to Citizen first for meritocracy recognizes NO boundaries, race, or nationality. So which one you want? You want citizens first? or you want merits/proof of worth before you give out jobs?
Meritocracy in many sense had been adulterated by PAP to further their means. Example "appointment of HO CHING" as Temesek's CEO is purely on Merits. Can you challenge that? If you challenge that you are also in a way destroying the very tenet of meritocracy as it is "neutral". If you are able to proof that Ho Ching did not get that position based on merits, then you will also along the way destroy many who may be real or just as talented, and deny them opportunities simply because in your view is nepotism and not meritocracy. Which means family members of should avoid apply for jobs in the same company as their family members especially if one is of senior position.
I understand that Ho Ching's appointment in temasek is a strong point for contention but PAP had blurred the boundaries so much, and in carefully drawing or re-drawing of these boundaries, you will inevitably destroy real meritocracy and people who got there based entire on their own merits.
For real meritocracy to be used as a measurement of one's talent or merit, then it MUST HOLD all things equal. meaning, the candidates are of same economical background, same educational background, same social status, same pair of parents... etc etc... And unless this is attainable, the meritocracy you preaches is flawed.
BTW do you know who is Professor Steven Chu? DO you know GMS the very system of meritocracy you talk about would have killed Professor Steven Chu's chance at his education and later his PhD, and just in case you are not informed which high chances you are ignorant of him, Professor Steven happens to be the RARE FEW ASIANS WHO WAS AWARDED THE NOBEL LAUREATE (PHYSICS) in 1997.
He was an academic black sheep. His entire family and even his brothers had a few masters and a few PhDs to their name and Prf. Steven Chu then only a single bachelor degree. He was a lackluster A-average in high school, was rejected by the Ivy League schools, but was accepted at Rochester. While his own brothers and cousins attended Princeton and Harvard.
If you GMS remembered (I do not believe if you do) when Prof Steven gave an interview to ST, about Singapore's education, what did he say? Had he been born in Singapore, he would never even be na UNIVERSITY graduate much less even a Nobel Laureate. Why? Because when he was young, he often sees studies as a chore rather than an intellectual journey. Like many other kids at his time, he was into building plastic model airplanes and warships, played touch football, baseball, basketball and occasionally, ice hockey. Just like many of our kids @ ITE/Poly today. Prof Steven went on to say that had he been a Singaporean, he would already been long denied further tertiary education, simply meritocracy says he did not make the mark.
GMS, do you know the rule of MERITOCRACY had killed how many little "Professor Steven Chu" in Singapore? From what I saw, you are just another breed of elitist bred from the PAP system of meritocracy, where NUS is the final and utmost journey for any learned!
You want to talk about politics? I tell you THIS IS POLITICS. Meritocracy can only thrive in an environment when you hold all things equal. How you expect a neighborhood kid to attain grade 8 in piano living in a 1 room flat like yours previously to match the other who stay in a bungalow and grand piano to practice. If you are the government you give free piano to this poor kid then you are giving meritocracy a bad name because meritocracy is based on equality. Then why must the rich kid pay for the piano? Oh then u buy piano for rich kid too but rich kid father can well afford. Can you see the dilemma here? the conflict of interest either ways.
The use of Meritocracy as a ruler is not arbitrary! By far, it is only an assistant to the standards we set.
Meritocracy do not favors late developers like Prof Steven Chu. If you do not make the mark then, your progress stops there. How many U-turns and rounds you want a kid with no substantial economic backing in order for him to attain his grade 8 piano? Which means either he is a prodigy or he is willing to toil for next 15 years or so to get his grade 8 while the rich kid got his within 6 years. Is this meritocracy may I ask of you?
Championing Singaporean first and meritocracy are two most absurd combination. Because you are telling Singaporeans, they shall be employed FIRST, at the same time telling Foreigners to apply as Singapore will employ you based on MERITS. Herein lies the main problems. Supposed you have 2 candidates. A Singaporean 24 and a Foreign Talent also 24 but the Singaporean has only a Degree but the Foreign Talent has a Degree and a MASTER! Who you employ based on the rule of Meritocracy?
GMS you are a BULL SHIT! either ways you understand? Because a male Singaporean need to serve NS therefore set him back by 2 years, but if do not employ the Foreign Talent you F* yourself preaching meritocracy which means the best man for the job which in all technicality the foreign talent wins the Singaporean hands down.
I am a NOBODY, YET i can give u concrete reason why meritocracy does not work in favor of Singaporean first policy BUT you are a POLITICIAN to say the least, and you mouthed MERITOCRACY so loud! yet you do not know the consequences of meritocracy by rule.
Apologies but BALLS to you NUS ELITIST BRED offspring. Better pack your bags and go Hong Kong before you shame your family surname! You had not even thought out properly WHAT you are saying. On one hand you instigated that "PAP is the evil of Singaporeans getting FTs to replace them" and on the other you shouted and herald SINGAPORE as a MERITOCRATIC nation. As PAP is in conflict but they are not in denial and apologetic as well. Can your face to so thick? So :Who" will any intellectual learned person vote then? a tried and tested lunatic or a political schizophrenic who do not even know his brand of politics and the meaning of "meritocracy".
DO not blame the electorate for being apathy or indifference. With your standards YOU are not even insofar worthy to hold a decent political conversation with me, do you think you can hold your own in parliament? Take my this simple F9 article and go to your CEC and see if I am talking cow dung or you preaching cow dung.
DEAR ALL,
If you all expect GMS to be different for PAP, you are in it for a spin! He himself advocates HIGH PAY HIGH SALARY for ministers... I maliced him?
"Singapore is built on the core values of "Meritocracy" and "accountability" is the most important part of Meritocracy. One can demand super high salary but there must be accountability. That is the gist of it. IF not, that would be a mockery of Meritocracy.
Goh Meng Seng:
Look "ONE can demand SUPER HIGH SALARY but here must be ACCOUNTABILITY"
GMS, I put it to you, GDP for GDPs, dollars for dollar which cabinet in the world carries that price tag? I would not even go into Army for Armies!
you are just an opportunist guning for HIGH SALARY flying your BRAND of HONESTY and INTEGRITY- non-challenge, so you have the ACCOUNTABILITY to get that salary?
Guys, look carefully GMS is just another PAP-styled kiddo. What honesty, what accountability, these are all clinches that PAP used.
There is to be a CHANGE in government & GOVERNANCE not just faces! and definitely for just another PAP styled government. Your funds speak insofar so much about your support and believe in your cause from the populace.
Here is a man ready to abandon ship if he cannot anchor his ship in the harbor. This is the very same man on hint of trouble from media during the WP saga and left WP. This is the same man who "proudly" stated in his blog CEC of WP even asked him to stay.
GMS is living on borrowed integrity, borrowed aspirations of the people, borrowed frustrations of the people, to further his own illusive elusive poltiical dreams and agenda.
GMS post your income here! so much for accountability! Post your P&L here to shows you are not after the salary because you earn more than that. Post the transaction of your flat here to show your transparency! (one moment say sell @ valuation to Singaporean, next sell at $XXK above valuation so can donate $20K to opposition- integrity? elusive)
I am a bastard who laid "allegations" upon "allegations" on you, and you cannot even defend yourself here, you think you can defend yourself against the media? You think you can defend yourself against PAP?
Kid, you really do not know your own strength. You may be nice, sincere and honest but politics not for you GMS. No need cry heaven unfair to you. Heaven gave you intellect but you can only grow your business big enough to own a HDB flat? Or did you siphoned some of your money overseas to escape IRA?
You are questionable, totally questionable. comes as no surprises MBT is not sweating with you against him.
