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Failing organs of govt and the SAF

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We have seen a number of established organs of government fail dramatically in the last 2 years and. I wonder if the SAF which takes up the largest chunk of the budget year in and year out is actually functional.

Here is a summary of the recent significant failures that have no prior precedence since the PAP consolidated itself in the early 70s

1. The White Paper - seminal for all the wrong reasons. It caught everybody by surprise and the first clear sign that the leadership and the scholars were so far removed from reality. The chasm was tangible. Were there no views taken from the grassroots which are managed by PA. Baey's $2.50 nasi Padang and discounted Bandung further nailed the detached factor as an issue. So who the PAP talk to when they hold the meet the people sessions.

2. The PRC bus strike - the reason the union chief carries a cabinet rank is not to add to the decor. His single most important task is to keep the industrial peace, a attribute we sell to foreign investors. So what went wrong? NTUC has a long established intelligence arm which is not well known but it is there. The union reps are the best paid and those in NTUC admin grade mirror the Alpha salary scale. So what are they paid to do.

3. The SPF debacle in Little India - jammed radio communications is not going to cut the mustard. The senior commanders were there but either had no idea what to do and had no spine to move. Only a TP rider and Cisco officer showed courage. No leadership, no clue and no idea how to do crowd control - basic policing role. More concerning is their incoherent testimony at the COI giving credence that they are not up to the task.

4. SMRT Rolling Disasters - the lady was removed, they brought in an ex defence chief and PS. So we are looking at cream de la cream. There is nothing higher rank wise. He was given an open cheque book and he picked and chose presumably the best from SAF. And it got worse. And the only civilian local in the new team quit abruptly without a job. He then decided that semantics similar to VB ponding would be the way to go. A service disruption is when the train stops and not when it crawls????

5. Hospital beds under a makeshift tent. Personally I felt that this was indeed the shocker. Nobody ever imagined that we would ever come to this. We are now going into the realms of a field hospital. Gan's parliamentary responses was not only unacceptable but it was bordering on the ridiculous. When Andrew Chew as Head of the Civil. Service was tasked to defray the cost of the medical burden and to shift it to some extent to the patient, his initial 7 % decades ago must have conjured images of a modern and first world vision not beds under a tent which was never the case in the past.

That's begs the question is the SAF all that it made up to be. Like the SPF will it fail in its basic role. Will our jets fly, will our leaders and their families be around, will our commanders wait, will the communications fail, can the tanks be brought back in time, etc

SAF leaders cannot be far removed from those same scholars that went to the same school and did the white paper, managed labour relations, trained our Police officer etc. They are part of the same system or what makes them different. The transparency report on procurement is a worry and maybe symptomatic of the issues within.

Mind you all these after the PM apologised and promised to fix the shop.
 
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all still dreaming in the legacy of toh chin chye. no one has to balls to crash those policies which r as outdated as pagers and tamaguchi. the paradigm shift unfortunately cannot happen becos this is a dynasty, top down policies dictated by one persons. the rest just follow orders.

we r today experiencing that vacuum and talent of toh chin chye and co. there r vast talents out there but the small circles have decided to keep it to themself.

look at ancient china and how decalent policies resulted in ching dynasty being so backwards and resistive to changes he west and japan literally walks over her.

ancient china throne were created by uncouth men who swore by the swords. those who resist and those whom he feels will be a threat to his god sent powers were removed.. literally under the sword.

the circle who surrounded the throne and his siblings, were mainly fortune tellers for the son of god often look upon the skies for signs aka chllies and salt. ancient china has plenty of scientists but they were often outcast and kept at bay from the emperor as these fortune tellers considered them to b a threat to their grasps of power/ straws.
 
The SAF will fail when really tested. Whatever capabilities we have is for show only. By the time clearance is sought for whatever course of action or response, game over. Scholars should remain in the universities or in R&D. Not messing up the uniformed services.
 
... Scholars should remain in the universities or in R&D. Not messing up the uniformed services.
uniformed officers shud stay uninformed ... not messing up ze corporate world ...
 
All dynasties eventually die out. Either the foreigners invade, or the kingdom implodes from within. :)
 
There are in my opinion two principle reasons for these failures.

The first is rampant hiring of foreigners without adequate checks on ability and more important character/integrity.

Service standards are dropping at a shocking rate because service posts are increasingly staffed by cheap foreigners who are hired on a cost rather than competency basis.

Why are there so many MRT breakdown? Are increased numbers of foreigners in charge of maintaining the rail network and programming the software to keep everything in sync? I shudder to know the real and.

Why are HDB tiles popping out and doors cannot lock? Mind you in brand new flats. Who are the contractor who built these flats and did the shoddy work arise from rampant cost cutting and rampant usage of dubiously skilled foreign assemblers? Again I shudder.

The second reason is our GLC are staff by bureaucracy people and not by true blue business leaders. This has gone on since LKY days but now we are reaping the fruits of this horrible state of affairs. The shocking mismanagement of SMRT is case in point. The pet GLC staffed by PAP establishment folk instead of competent CEOs and businessmen. It was only a matter of time before there would be a catastrophic breakdown in management of the rail network and we reaped the first fruits in 2010 when people nearly suffocated in a train whist then conductor insisted the air supply was still running.

The third reason is the poor leadership of Lee hsien loong himself ..... To be continue next post .....
 
We have seen a number of established organs of government fail dramatically in the last 2 years and. I wonder if the SAF which takes up the largest chunk of the budget year in and year out is actually functional.

Here is a summary of the recent significant failures that have no prior precedence since the PAP consolidated itself in the early 70s

1. The White Paper - seminal for all the wrong reasons. It caught everybody by surprise and the first clear sign that the leadership and the scholars were so far removed from reality. The chasm was tangible. Were there no views taken from the grassroots which are managed by PA. Baey's $2.50 nasi Padang and discounted Bandung further nailed the detached factor as an issue. So who the PAP talk to when they hold the meet the people sessions.

2. The PRC bus strike - the reason the union chief carries a cabinet rank is not to add to the decor. His single most important task is to keep the industrial peace, a attribute we sell to foreign investors. So what went wrong? NTUC has a long established intelligence arm which is not well known but it is there. The union reps are the best paid and those in NTUC admin grade mirror the Alpha salary scale. So what are they paid to do.

3. The SPF debacle in Little India - jammed radio communications is not going to cut the mustard. The senior commanders were there but either had no idea what to do and had no spine to move. Only a TP rider and Cisco officer showed courage. No leadership, no clue and no idea how to do crowd control - basic policing role. More concerning is their incoherent testimony at the COI giving credence that they are not up to the task.

4. SMRT Rolling Disasters - the lady was removed, they brought in an ex defence chief and PS. So we are looking at cream de la cream. There is nothing higher rank wise. He was given an open cheque book and he picked and chose presumably the best from SAF. And it got worse. And the only civilian local in the new team quit abruptly without a job. He then decided that semantics similar to VB ponding would be the way to go. A service disruption is when the train stops and not when it crawls????

5. Hospital beds under a makeshift tent. Personally I felt that this was indeed the shocker. Nobody ever imagined that we would ever come to this. We are now going into the realms of a field hospital. Gan's parliamentary responses was not only unacceptable but it was bordering on the ridiculous. When Andrew Chew as Head of the Civil. Service was tasked to defray the cost of the medical burden and to shift it to some extent to the patient, his initial 7 % decades ago must have conjured images of a modern and first world vision not beds under a tent which was never the case in the past.

That's begs the question is the SAF all that it made up to be. Like the SPF will it fail in its basic role. Will our jets fly, will our leaders and their families be around, will our commanders wait, will the communications fail, can the tanks be brought back in time, etc

SAF leaders cannot be far removed from those same scholars that went to the same school and did the white paper, managed labour relations, trained our Police officer etc. They are part of the same system or what makes them different. The transparency report on procurement is a worry and maybe symptomatic of the issues within.

Mind you all these after the PM apologised and promised to fix the shop.

you twit. saf have never pass since day 1.
 
Lee hsien loong

I pin most blame on him.

In 2004 when he ascended the throne he immediately ordered a restructuring of the whole civil service. It was haphazardly done. Left people demoralised and more crucially disorganized.

Some department never fully recovered from that restructuring edict. We are reaping the fruits today as the systemic flaws work their way thru the system

The over emphasis on quantitative KPI metrics led to middle level civil servants concentrating on the short term rather than the long term. Slowly people started to focus on immediate cost saving rather than on delivering long term value added service to the citizens. Slowly work ethos began to erode. Slowly the notion of serving the public took second place to looking good on paper. We are reaping the fruits today.

We have a paper Chief police who can say to you without shame that a general does not charge into the heat of battle. At the same time his female sergeant seven ranks below him braved her life. This is shocking. Can you imagine the rot beneath the facade.

To be continued ....
 
No use, puling our hairs, gnashing of teeth & wailing...it is the same old story repeating itself....we made this government ( the 60%) & we are going to live the days of our lives with the monster we have created..whether it is "mee siam, with our without hum'...nobody pointed out that a PM cannot even pronounced a dialect properly...

what are we going to do?? what is the use listing all their competencies?? they will still be handsomely rewarded...what are we waiting for, something, big, disastrous to happen to wake up...that 60%??
 
if he don't restructure he cud not hv expunge goh's men. they would leave him as a puppet to the throne, no?
 
All dynasties eventually die out. Either the foreigners invade, or the kingdom implodes from within. :)

That will happen very very soon.
Smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY is within days and weeks from becoming a rotting corpse.
LKY personally packed PAP with the scums of society, all of them self serving vicious greedy bastards.
Will they be satisfied with millions when they know billions and hundreds of billions stolen by LKY will be up for graps once LKY die?
Or you think those greedy vicious bastards will work for ArseLoon for millions when they can get the billions?

THEY WILL HOOT AND HOOT ARSELOON TO PIECES FOR THOSE BILLIONS
THEY WILL HOOT THE OTHERS BEFORE THEY ARE HOOTED

WE ALL WILL YUM SENG AND SING AND DANCE ON TABLE TOPS AND THE ROADS

AND AFTER THAT, WE WILL CLEANSE SINGAPORE OF THE REST OF THE PAPS AND THEIR KANGAROOS AND COLLABORATORS
WE WILL SEE THEM ALL DANCING UNDER THE LAMP POSTS AND SINGAPOREANS WILL CHEER AND CHEER
 
We have a paper Chief police who can say to you without shame that a general does not charge into the heat of battle. At the same time his female sergeant seven ranks below him braved her life. This is shocking. Can you imagine the rot beneath the facade.

To be continued ....

But when there is credit or glory involved, who will be in the front row?
 
The only thing that failed and still failing is balless sinkees who insist on 1 party government who suka suka can pass law.
 
The SAF will fail when really tested. Whatever capabilities we have is for show only. By the time clearance is sought for whatever course of action or response, game over. Scholars should remain in the universities or in R&D. Not messing up the uniformed services.

no doubt that there will be short-comings (ineptitude) when it comes to the crunch since we have not been battle-tested unlike our neighbours.
but we can take consolation in the fact that our "processes" and sop are better, unlike the others eg radar not detecting the missing plane etc.
ultimately, when eye-balling the enemy - who dares, wins.... that's the real lumpar test.
 
Thats what we thought about SPF, SMRT etc. The same governance system applies across.


no doubt that there will be short-comings (ineptitude) when it comes to the crunch since we have not been battle-tested unlike our neighbours.
but we can take consolation in the fact that our "processes" and sop are better, unlike the others eg radar not detecting the missing plane etc.
ultimately, when eye-balling the enemy - who dares, wins.... that's the real lumpar test.
 
We have seen a number of established organs of government fail dramatically in the last 2 years and.....Mind you all these after the PM apologised and promised to fix the shop.
Didn't you know? This is what is called the cycle of things: what goes around comes around. It's an ancient konzept rooted in Buddhism and Zoroastranism.
 
Didn't you know? This is what is called the cycle of things: what goes around comes around. It's an ancient konzept rooted in Buddhism and Zoroastranism.

these two keywords (in bold) can be referenced to someone who's a parsi in this forum...seatless and seedless :D
 
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