Opposition-bashing in "Opposition unity" forum

[scroobal]

i bring that up, only two seats gain by the 'Opposition', tats to remind us all, the pathetic political reality we are in.

no. i don't have a plan. do u have a plan for the PAP apologist to get more seats the next GE?

Let me draw an analogy of your position after 370 posts.

You don't like this particular girl Sheryl (all opposition except SDP and RP) that always wear short skirt (not real opposition) so you would not vote her for the position of chairman of the Tea Club. When we asked why, you say that she wears short skirt. We tell you what is wrong with short skirt, you keep repeating that she wears short skirt but unable to explain why a short skirt makes her a bad chairman.


Then you blurt out that she is going out with Tony (who is not her husband). We ask you, "are you sure? ". You then us that Nancy (SDP) and Ah Mui (RP) is not going out with Tony. We again ask you for proof of infidelity (walking with PAP) and bad character (not real opposition), you again tell us that Nancy and Ah Mui are not going out with Tony and that this girl Sheryl is wearing short skirt.

So we tell you that means that Ah Ching(PAP) will continue to run the Tea Club for another 50 years and your reply is that the Sheryl is wearing short skirt.

Then we tell you that Nancy(SDP) is bedridden and Ah Mui(RP) just born but only Sheryl is left and again you tell us that Sheryl wears shirt skirt.

We again ask you "what is wrong with short skirt?" You reply is that she is going out with Tony. We again ask you "are you sure", you reply is she is wearing short skirt.

In essence, this is circular logic with no premise or foundation. You cannot explain what is wrong with short skirt and cannot prove that she is going out with Tony. But you keep repeating the same thing.

 

[char_jig_kar]

Let me draw an analogy of your position after 370 posts.

You don't like this particular girl Sheryl (all opposition except SDP and RP) that always wear short skirt (not real opposition) so you would not vote her for the position of chairman of the Tea Club. When we asked why, you say that she wears short skirt. We tell you what is wrong with short skirt, you keep repeating that she wears short skirt but unable to explain why a short skirt makes her a bad chairman.


Then you blurt out that she is going out with Tony (who is not her husband). We ask you, "are you sure? ". You then us that Nancy (SDP) and Ah Mui (RP) is not going out with Tony. We again ask you for proof of infidelity (walking with PAP) and bad character (not real opposition), you again tell us that Nancy and Ah Mui are not going out with Tony and that this girl Sheryl is wearing short skirt.

So we tell you that means that Ah Ching(PAP) will continue to run the Tea Club for another 50 years and your reply is that the Sheryl is wearing short skirt.

Then we tell you that Nancy(SDP) is bedridden and Ah Mui(RP) just born but only Sheryl is left and again you tell us that Sheryl wears shirt skirt.

We again ask you "what is wrong with short skirt?" You reply is that she is going out with Tony. We again ask you "are you sure", you reply is she is wearing short skirt.

In essence, this is circular logic with no premise or foundation. You cannot explain what is wrong with short skirt and cannot prove that she is going out with Tony. But you keep repeating the same thing.

why is it most of the PAP apologists are so long winded?? do u have to be so long winded?

just cut to the chase, go straight to the point.

 

[char_jig_kar]

my position is clear. i don't know why is it some people here in this thread, keep on saying that my arguments and logic are in circular.

and for that internet brigade cleareyes, he's just being anal retentive, and unreasonable. the direction which i pointed is right. i just didn't brush it up, do a good presentation on what is 'walk too damn close to the PAP', what is the PAP outlooks.

in a gist, 'walk too damn close to the PAP', means people who are heavily influenced by the PAP outlooks.

and what is PAP outlooks? PAP outlooks is basically Lee Kuan Yew outlooks. 'cause PAP is LKY and LKY is PAP. so if wanna know what is Lee Kuan Yew outlooks, just read his speeches, interviews, and his goddamn autobiography. thats the gist, the general direction i pointed out to him.

so whats the problem? whats the issue here?

 

[char_jig_kar]

as for why it doesn't work, why PAP apologist checking on the PAP govt, that doesn't work, here's the reason i gave to kingrant in message 319 here in this thread.

http://www.sammyboy.com/showpost.php?p=180430&postcount=319

they are all we have... look... didn't we laugh at the PAP gahmen when they form committee to check on themselves? for example, Wong Kang Seng, he formed a committee to check on the security lapse incident? and the committee are people he pick, some of the people are under him? something like that?

now, what difference is it, by getting PAP apologist to check on PAP?? PAP apologist find the PAP agreeable most of the time. they are like brothers. so isn't it problematic to have PAP apologist to check on the PAP???

 

[cleareyes]

Fuck you, understand?! u twist and turn in your messages to me at other thread, and then u disappear when i ask u to explain your claim, statement.

now u come in here and charge at me accusing me all kind of stuff. Fuck you! u are in no position to make these comments.

You are indeed a very good twister. You cant answer the questions and now you try to divert attention and claim I have disappeared on you.

If you cant answer, just admit so. No one will fault a chicken.

You are indeed a man of dubious princples

 

[char_jig_kar]

You are indeed a very good twister. You cant answer the questions and now you try to divert attention and claim I have disappeared on you.

If you cant answer, just admit so. No one will fault a chicken.

You are indeed a man of dubious princples

i had answered your questions. its u are anal retentive and unreasonable. the general direction i pointed is there:

PAP outlooks is the LKY outlooks. wanna know LKY outlooks? go read his goddamn autobiography, asshole.

 

[char_jig_kar]

internet brigade cleareyes,

i had answered your questions from start. its u are so clouded by your own PAP mindset, u cant see the answer.

 

[cleareyes]

and for that internet brigade cleareyes, he's just being anal retentive, and unreasonable. the direction which i pointed is right. i just didn't brush it up, do a good presentation on what is 'walk too damn close to the PAP', what is the PAP outlooks.

in a gist, 'walk too damn close to the PAP', means people who are heavily influenced by the PAP outlooks.

Simplistic and attention diverting.

M i with any internet brigade? Those whop are familiar with me would know the answer better.

As for you, my little chicken with your own foot in your mouth, using LKY as the bogeyman shows you are working in the same line as LKY himself, who loved to use the communist, then the marxist and later all sorts of crap names to justified his actions on restricting develiopment in Singapore.

Base on your logic and atrgument, you have "walk damn close" with PAP as well, adopting the same method.

 

[cleareyes]

internet brigade cleareyes,

i had answered your questions from start. its u are so clouded by your own PAP mindset, u cant see the answer.

Has anyone here say that they have seen or understood your "answer"?

I do not think so.

So if I m not the only one who cant seem to get your "answer", its obvious you have provide none.

 

[char_jig_kar]

Simplistic and attention diverting.

M i with any internet brigade? Those whop are familiar with me would know the answer better.

As for you, my little chicken with your own foot in your mouth, using LKY as the bogeyman shows you are working in the same line as LKY himself, who loved to use the communist, then the marxist and later all sorts of crap names to justified his actions on restricting develiopment in Singapore.

Base on your logic and atrgument, you have "walk damn close" with PAP as well, adopting the same method.

Lee Kuan Yew and the PAP is the root cause of most of the problem here in Singapore. If u think thats simplistic view, would u kindly tell us what's your view on Singapore's pathetic political scene? Whats the main problem with it? If my view is attention diverting, where would u suggest the attention is better invested?

Why do u say I am walking too close to the PAP? I don't believe in Lee Kuan Yew outlooks.

 

[char_jig_kar]

Has anyone here say that they have seen or understood your "answer"?

I do not think so.

So if I m not the only one who cant seem to get your "answer", its obvious you have provide none.

i had provided my answer. its u PAP apologist being unreasonable and anal retentive.

 

[Perspective]

Let me draw an analogy of your position after 370 posts.

You don't like this particular girl Sheryl (all opposition except SDP and RP) that always wear short skirt (not real opposition) so you would not vote her for the position of chairman of the Tea Club. When we asked why, you say that she wears short skirt. We tell you what is wrong with short skirt, you keep repeating that she wears short skirt but unable to explain why a short skirt makes her a bad chairman.


Then you blurt out that she is going out with Tony (who is not her husband). We ask you, "are you sure? ". You then us that Nancy (SDP) and Ah Mui (RP) is not going out with Tony. We again ask you for proof of infidelity (walking with PAP) and bad character (not real opposition), you again tell us that Nancy and Ah Mui are not going out with Tony and that this girl Sheryl is wearing short skirt.

So we tell you that means that Ah Ching(PAP) will continue to run the Tea Club for another 50 years and your reply is that the Sheryl is wearing short skirt.

Then we tell you that Nancy(SDP) is bedridden and Ah Mui(RP) just born but only Sheryl is left and again you tell us that Sheryl wears shirt skirt.

We again ask you "what is wrong with short skirt?" You reply is that she is going out with Tony. We again ask you "are you sure", you reply is she is wearing short skirt.

In essence, this is circular logic with no premise or foundation. You cannot explain what is wrong with short skirt and cannot prove that she is going out with Tony. But you keep repeating the same thing.

That's an extremely good analogy but a waste of time on who you use it on, I think.

BTW I would like to interest you in another thread "On voting for opposition".

 

[char_jig_kar]

That's an extremely good analogy but a waste of time on who you use it on, I think.

BTW I would like to interest you in another thread "On voting for opposition".

the analogy is stupid. because the root cause of most of the problem here in Spore is PAP and LKY. isn't that common sense? isn't it obvious? what more do u want? powerpoint slides? flowchart?

take for example, the pathetic state of political scene here in spore, don't tell me thats not the result of Lee Kuan Yew and PAP?? so wat is the problem with u people who just refuse to face it???

every fucking step here u need to be spoon fed, and spell it out for u PAP apologist. simple as that. like i said to cleareyes, u PAP apologist are anal retentive and unreasonable.

 

[char_jig_kar]

go on. go think about it. whats the link between LKY and Spore's pathetic political scene here. do u really need help with that?

do u need help to establish the link between LKY political outlook, his view on parliamentary debate, which leads to PAP govt meddling, tweaking our country's electoral process/ system to the extend its out of shape, and thus the pathetic political scene here? not to talk about how the judicial system here help LKY and PAP to bankrupt the Oppositions, fixing the Oppositions??

u want me to go hit the library and pull out slides and copies, and quotes to show the link??? u want me to go pour through LKY autobiography, search the net, and show u guys quotes, date, time??? gimmie a break u assholes. just admit it, u assholes are PAP apologist, PAP/ LKY secret admirers, closet PAP.

 

[char_jig_kar]

hey assholes,

do u need help to understand, why PAP apologist checking on PAP, that doesn't work?

 

[cleareyes]

who are the oppositions? Do we really have oppositions? If we do, why are we sticking to two seats for the past ten years? Tell me.

Then do you have any plans to increase the number of seats in parliment for the oppositions?

If not, what is with all the noise making all about?

you cant explain your stand, you have no solution and yet you insisted that you are right and at the same time could not explain why you are right.

and on top of it, you dare not take responsiblities or the matter into your own hands.

many here are doing what they can not to ignore you and trying to engage you and understand you. yet you have refuse to let others understand you, instead beginning to allow many to see you as a stubborn fool with no idea what you are talking about but repeat ranting.

With useless and senseless people like you around making a fool, no wonder PAP is in power. All PAP need to do is to use you as an example of how useless the opposition is and the majority would not vote for the opposition

Thank you so much for making a mockery and allowing LKY and PAP to stay in power.

 

[char_jig_kar]

one of the way to increase the number of seats in the parliament, is for Opposition to debunk the LKY's ideology, and come up with their ideologies, what do they want to do with this country. any goal, any aspiration?

and how to start? start from having debate. communication among the people. having conversation.

am i start doing it in this thread?

i am trying to communicate with u people, getting PAP apologist into the parliament, that doesn't help moving forward Spore political development.

what are u doing here? nothing. all u did is attacking me.

i asked u, if u think my view is simplistic, then what is your view on the dire political situation here in spore? u keep quiet.

who's being irresponsible, coward and silly? u are.

 

[char_jig_kar]

to get the mind straighten up. thats the first step. to ditch LKY's faulty outlooks. thats the first step in strengthen spore's political development, having progress in our political development.

not hanging on to it, and having a closed mind and refused to admit that LKY's outlooks are prevalent.

with the right mind, comes right action. with right attitude, comes right action.

 

[char_jig_kar]

the problem with our dire political situation, is that most of us are running on Lee Kuan Yew's 'software'. our political view, its more or less Lee Kuan Yew regurgitation.

with that, we cant move forward in our political development. it get stuck. it get stuck in the fundamental value system. so before the GE 'war' starts, most of the Opposition camp had already fail.

 

[char_jig_kar]

so instead of spending time attacking me, why not use the time to think about what is the aspiration of the Opposition if u are so into politics? 'cause without aspiration, without a sense of mission, the Opposition would not go anywhere but going in circle. marching on the same spot.

think about the value system of the Opposition. is it too much Lee Kuan Yew outlooks in it? and what are the dated, seriously flawed outlooks of the Lee Kuan Yew?