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shctaw

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In a bull trend; whomever wait will buy higher.

Wait wait.... cannot wait liao.

Wait wait..... buy buy buy....

All this waiting will instead cause a sudden surge in buyers whom all wait together at the sideline and rush in altogether.

It is just how it play out in Singapore after 8 government curbs.

And after each curb; the property price hit new high. Hahaaaa.......
 

potter

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In a bull trend; whomever wait will buy higher.

Wait wait.... cannot wait liao.

Wait wait..... buy buy buy....

All this waiting will instead cause a sudden surge in buyers whom all wait together at the sideline and rush in altogether.

It is just how it play out in Singapore after 8 government curbs.

And after each curb; the property price hit new high. Hahaaaa.......

this is a break out in 40 yrs for jb property, (good entry pt :2009-2011). super bull, who dare to stop... titter.gif
 
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shctaw

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Timing the market is fun; but it will backfired if you overplay the timing part.

Just hit a point and let the trend play out by itself.

The tax do not hit the locals; so there should be a surge in locals buyers whom think they are better off than foreigners.

I am waiting for Johor government to act for a few months now. Glad it happen on 2 June 2013. On the dot.

Now the bull got slapped on the butt. It will run faster.

Just remember 3 thing.....
Government always hit wrongly. Time badly. Add fuel to fire.

this is a break out in 40 yrs for jb property, (good entry pt :2009-2011). super bull, who dare to stop...View attachment 10513
 
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nusaduta

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Just to share with forumers here. I m now in Sarawak, few that I met are ALL talking about buying properties in JB, mostly condo. As their rationale is Robert Kuok also buy, must not miss the boat. It could be a good sign but it could also spell danger that small town people are talking about it. I fear it could be like the stock market. Those who are buying, pls check, check and check again, especially reputation of developer and price you are paying. Don't go overboard.
 

potter

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Timing the market is fun; but it will backfired if you overplay the timing part.

Just hit a point and let the trend play out by itself.

The tax do not hit the locals; so there should be a surge in locals buyers whom think they are better off than foreigners.

I am waiting for anymore from Johor government for a few months now. Glad it happen on 2 June 2013. On the dot.

yup..sure there'll be some corrections along the way for those weak holders.
 
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shctaw

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For a market to crash; the distribution part must be completed first.

The distribution only started in 2011 and usually it will take a good 6-12 years to complete before a market crash.

Must have enough fishes to be in the net before we raise it.

Singapore distribution start from 2006. From 2012-2017 is the time Singapore go into correction mode. (or sideway movement)

Those whom love Singapore property should stick to retail property. It just started distributing in 2012. This one can go all the way to 2020.

Just to share with forumers here. I m now in Sarawak, few that I met are ALL talking about buying properties in JB, mostly condo. As their rationale is Robert Kuok also buy, must not miss the boat. It could be a good sign but it could also spell danger that small town people are talking about it. I fear it could be like the stock market. Those who are buying, pls check, check and check again, especially reputation of developer and price you are paying. Don't go overboard.
 
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potter

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For a market to crash; the distribution part must be completed first.

The distribution only started in 2011 and usually it will take a good 6-12 years to complete before a market crash.

Must have enough fishes to be in the net before we raise it.

Singapore distribution start from 2006. From 2012-2017 is the time Singapore go into correction mode. (or sideway movement)

Those whom love Singapore property should stick to retail property. It just started distributing in 2012. This one can go all the way to 2020.

support the white paper!! if u love $$.
 

gooddebt

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Malaysia Steel Works’ (Masteel) plan to operate a 100km intercity rail system between Iskandar and Singapore has been approved by relevant authorities, especially the Ministry of Transport, reported The Sun Daily.

“The increasing demand on the existing transportation infrastructure in the rapidly-developing Iskandar Malaysia region makes this commuter network even more necessary and urgent to handle the passenger load in and around the area as a long-term solution,” said Masteel CEO and Managing Director Datuk Seri Tai Hean Leng.
 

sillysinky

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To set the record straight, I don't buy and read property books anymore, I only come to this forum to learn :smile:
thank you very much.
 

Valdez

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Highlight: 'Wait and see' in Iskandar



Your window to Malaysia
Tuesday, 4 June 2013
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by Fatin Rasyiqah Mustaza of theedgemalaysia.com on Tuesday, 04 June 2013 01:04

KUALA LUMPUR: Property market hot zone Iskandar Malaysia may witness a "wait and see" attitude among investors in the next few months while they await the Johor government's announcement on the "higher taxes" to be imposed on foreign-owned properties in the state, real estate experts said.

"Iskandar Malaysia is currently booming. But with this news, we may be looking at a 'wait and see' attitude from buyers, especially foreigners," said Siva Shanker, president of the Malaysian Institute of Real Estate Agents, when contacted.

Property agents are concerned that the higher taxes on properties owned by foreigners may put off foreign purchasers, especially Singaporeans who had only recently warmed up to the Iskandar story.

On Sunday, Johor Menteri Besar Datuk Seri Mohamed Khaled Nordin told reporters the state government would impose "higher taxes" on properties owned by foreigners. He said the tax rates were still being discussed, adding that they are scheduled to be imposed by the end of the year.

While the menteri besar did not elaborate, developers who have property projects in Johor were quick to explain that a special levy may not be imposed on top of the purchase price of properties bought by foreigners, instead there would be an increase in the assessment rate.

"An assessment rate hike is being proposed for properties owned by foreigners and potentially local owners whose properties are valued at above RM1 million. We hope any implementation will take into proper consideration the industry feedback and current market conditions," said a spokesperson from Mah Sing Group Bhd

.She said Johore has been maintaining the existing assessment rates for close to 30 years. "Currently, the annual assessment rate for residential properties in Johor is 0.14% of the property value, which means for a RM500,000 home, the owner has to pay RM700 a year. The rate for commercial properties is 0.2%.

"We believe genuine investors will continue to see the long term value proposition in owning a quality property by branded developers with good track records in a prime location like Johor/Iskandar Malaysia," said the spokesperson.

Hua Yang Bhd chief financial officer May Chan also agreed that it is unlikely for the state government to impose a special levy on top of the property price for foreigners.

"But while the cost impact from a higher assessment rate is likely to be small, buyers' sentiment may be affected pending more details from the Johor government," Chan told The Edge Financial Daily.

When contacted, Real Estate and Housing Developers Association (Rehda) president Datuk Seri Michael Yam said all stakeholders should engage and discuss the matter with the state government because the tax rate implementation "needs more clarification and more consistency", adding that there is also a need for a long term policy.

He noted that Malaysia's tax rate on property is relatively low compared to that imposed by other countries. However, in the absence of proper communication by the state government, foreign investors may hold back if they assume that Malaysia's tax rate is as high as that of their own countries.

"The state government must quickly clarify the new tax rate so that the investors' wait and see attitude does not prolong. I can imagine prospective buyers calling up Iskandar developers to seek clarification over the new tax rate issue," said Yam.

"An announcement like this does not resonate with the federal government's efforts and initiative to develop the Iskandar region, which is aimed at attracting not only local investors but also foreigners.

The imposition of a new property tax rate might dampen sales of properties in the Iskandar region. Foreigners will now think twice before investing in Iskandar."
 

FHBH12

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Highlight: 'Wait and see' in Iskandar



Your window to Malaysia
Tuesday, 4 June 2013
Font-size: A | A | A
by Fatin Rasyiqah Mustaza of theedgemalaysia.com on Tuesday, 04 June 2013 01:04

KUALA LUMPUR: Property market hot zone Iskandar Malaysia may witness a "wait and see" attitude among investors in the next few months while they await the Johor government's announcement on the "higher taxes" to be imposed on foreign-owned properties in the state, real estate experts said.

"Iskandar Malaysia is currently booming. But with this news, we may be looking at a 'wait and see' attitude from buyers, especially foreigners," said Siva Shanker, president of the Malaysian Institute of Real Estate Agents, when contacted.

Property agents are concerned that the higher taxes on properties owned by foreigners may put off foreign purchasers, especially Singaporeans who had only recently warmed up to the Iskandar story.

On Sunday, Johor Menteri Besar Datuk Seri Mohamed Khaled Nordin told reporters the state government would impose "higher taxes" on properties owned by foreigners. He said the tax rates were still being discussed, adding that they are scheduled to be imposed by the end of the year.

While the menteri besar did not elaborate, developers who have property projects in Johor were quick to explain that a special levy may not be imposed on top of the purchase price of properties bought by foreigners, instead there would be an increase in the assessment rate.

"An assessment rate hike is being proposed for properties owned by foreigners and potentially local owners whose properties are valued at above RM1 million. We hope any implementation will take into proper consideration the industry feedback and current market conditions," said a spokesperson from Mah Sing Group Bhd

.She said Johore has been maintaining the existing assessment rates for close to 30 years. "Currently, the annual assessment rate for residential properties in Johor is 0.14% of the property value, which means for a RM500,000 home, the owner has to pay RM700 a year. The rate for commercial properties is 0.2%.

"We believe genuine investors will continue to see the long term value proposition in owning a quality property by branded developers with good track records in a prime location like Johor/Iskandar Malaysia," said the spokesperson.

Hua Yang Bhd chief financial officer May Chan also agreed that it is unlikely for the state government to impose a special levy on top of the property price for foreigners.

"But while the cost impact from a higher assessment rate is likely to be small, buyers' sentiment may be affected pending more details from the Johor government," Chan told The Edge Financial Daily.

When contacted, Real Estate and Housing Developers Association (Rehda) president Datuk Seri Michael Yam said all stakeholders should engage and discuss the matter with the state government because the tax rate implementation "needs more clarification and more consistency", adding that there is also a need for a long term policy.

He noted that Malaysia's tax rate on property is relatively low compared to that imposed by other countries. However, in the absence of proper communication by the state government, foreign investors may hold back if they assume that Malaysia's tax rate is as high as that of their own countries.

"The state government must quickly clarify the new tax rate so that the investors' wait and see attitude does not prolong. I can imagine prospective buyers calling up Iskandar developers to seek clarification over the new tax rate issue," said Yam.

"An announcement like this does not resonate with the federal government's efforts and initiative to develop the Iskandar region, which is aimed at attracting not only local investors but also foreigners.

The imposition of a new property tax rate might dampen sales of properties in the Iskandar region. Foreigners will now think twice before investing in Iskandar."

By dropping the bombshell just before Temasek's Afiniti launch, this guy won't be popular with Singapore government for sure.
 

Jetstream

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For a market to crash; the distribution part must be completed first.

The distribution only started in 2011 and usually it will take a good 6-12 years to complete before a market crash.

Must have enough fishes to be in the net before we raise it.

Singapore distribution start from 2006. From 2012-2017 is the time Singapore go into correction mode. (or sideway movement)

Those whom love Singapore property should stick to retail property. It just started distributing in 2012. This one can go all the way to 2020.

Pardon my ignorance prof, what do you mean by "distribution" in this context?
 

potter

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I love my country more than whitepaper. We don't want to be foreigners in our own country. Have your money to yourself!


no growth of ppl, many old ppl, country also die..(i'm just stating facts..tat can't deny) (dun confuse this with papies n hammer). u got play sim city?
 
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jamestan88

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Buying and selling usually come in waves.

a. Insiders with first-hand information are the first-movers.

b. Followed by smart money.

c. Followed by speculators/specuvestors.

d. Followed by masses.

e. Followed by dumb money.

Wave d is usually the biggest and lasts the longest.

In each wave, there is significant buying and selling across the classes, visualise a shifting window of transactions.

As we move down the list, the volume gets larger and heavier, momentum gets stronger, tapering off with the last class.
 

jamestan88

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Bingo.

Low TFR (Total Fertility Rate) and increasing old to young ratios are a recipe for disaster.

A country with aging population without any sound plans for population renewal is doomed in the mid to long-term.

No growth story -> no investment -> no jobs -> no consumption -> no business -> no growth story. It's a vicious cycle.
 

Newbie11

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Bingo.

Low TFR (Total Fertility Rate) and increasing old to young ratios are a recipe for disaster.

A country with aging population without any sound plans for population renewal is doomed in the mid to long-term.

No growth story -> no investment -> no jobs -> no consumption -> no business -> no growth story. It's a vicious cycle.

Hence import n new citizens n new votes
 
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