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are you singaporean?
[if response is: "Why does it matter?" or "Why is it important?" or "How does it matter?", then confirmed CECA.
since u already know this fact, let me ask openly: are u a ceca?]
Right!bravo! unless they ride a PMD right?
You seow again ah?!
i take it he has his off days ....
I stand corrected. He's always been seow actually.i take it he has his off days ....
I think so too because I am the real Ah Meng!knn, you seow lang lah.
Of course you are. If you say so.I think so too because I am the real Ah Meng!
Remember, nothing is real.
Are you Leongsam?Of course you are. If you say so.
Remember, nothing is real.
I can be any moniker you want me to be. Except @ginfreely hor.Are you Leongsam?
But I think ts is a single mother after examining all her posts to date. You think so?
I don't have your powers of deduction, but you could be right. I am actually an old indian woman, and I have managed to hide that well.
This forum is confirmed 渗透 liao. You can tell who the 50-cent dogs are.
simi si ts?
You are back!
Why 50 cent?
Yap keng ho cuts and pastes all the rubbish Taiwan news, Russian and Chinese military shit threads .... but when a real war is breaking out there's nothing to update. Useless
Instead of actually fighting the Chinese if they invade Taiwan why doesn't the United States just nuke them if China invades Taiwan?
Is it the concern of any country with regards to China and Taiwan?
What right do any country to intervene or to talk of intervening between China and Taiwan?
You seriously think China can be nuked just like that?
That China got only about 200 nukes and cannot deliver the nukes to USA?
And that you can gloat over a nuked China and laugh at the nuked Chinese?
When China was still almost in stone age condition in 1960s, China still developed the Hydrogen Bomb 3.3 Mtons just 32 months in June 1967 after China first fission bomb. China was using teams of Chinese working away at abacus as they had no computers or even electronic calculators then.
We all know China is a lot more advanced since the mid 60s.
US intelligence projection made late in the 1960s that China would have 435 nuclear weapons by 1973.
Karber’s report mentioned that “PRC data in 1995 gave the figure at 2,350.”
We all know China is a lot more advanced since 1995.
Why You Should Fear China's Nuclear Weapons
Try to read and know of the China Great Underground Wall. China’s complex tunnel system, which stretches 5,000 km (3,000 miles). Do you think that Great Underground Wall of 5000 km hide only 200 nukes?
The report determined that the stated Chinese nuclear arsenal is understated and as many as 3,000 nuclear warheads may be stored in the tunnel network
Underground Great Wall of China - Wikipedia
And remember the DF5s and DF31AG as well. About 100 or more of them, mirving 10 nukes or more.
China has at least three brigades of DF-5 missiles. Assuming all three brigades have been modernized, that's 360 thermonuclear warheads with a half-megaton on each warhead.
3 brigades DF-5B ICBM x 12 missiles per brigade x 10 MIRVs per missile = 360 thermonuclear warheads carried on DF-5B ICBMs
DF-5B got throw weight of 5,000 kgs
In 2017, China successfully completed tests of DF-5C. Presumably with greater throw weight and greater accuracy in targetting.
7 brigades DF-31A ICBM (since 2007 introduction and adding one brigade per year) x 12 missiles per brigade x 3 MIRVs = 252 thermonuclear warheads carried on DF-31A ICBMs (assuming NO RELOAD missile per TEL; if you assume ONE reload missile per TEL then you double the number of warheads to 504 thermonuclear warheads).
Since then, China tested and got operational DF31AG and DF31B. Obviously able to throw more warheads than the DF31A. The DF31s are solid fuel and can fire within 3 to 5 minutes.
And the H-6K bombers. H-6K can carry up to six YJ-12 and 6-7 ALCMs; and air launched missiles (CH-AS-X-13)
As at 2015, there are 15 numbers of H-6Ks, and 150 numbers of assorted H-6s.
Using just H-6Ks, there will be need for 15X10 , or 150 thermonuclear bombs.
2015 is 5 years ago. You can be sure there will be even more numbers of H-6K, and even more advanced bombers being build by China.
DF-41 - Wikipedia
The Dong Feng 41 (CSS-X-10) is a road- and rail-mobile intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM). The DF-41 completed all testing stages and deployed in the People’s Republic of China (PRC) since 2017. It is estimated to have an operational range of 12,000 to 15,000 km, which would make it the longest range missile in operation. It will likely have a top speed of Mach 25 and will be capable of delivering up to 10 MIRVed warheads. Throw weight of DF-41 is 2,500 kg.
The DF-41 is a three-stage solid-fueled intercontinental ballistic missile reported to have a maximum range of up to 15,000 kilometers (more than 9320 miles) and a top speed of Mach 25 (19,030 mph). It is said to be capable of carrying up to 10 multiple independently targetable reentry vehicle (MIRVs). Its launch preparation time is estimated to be between 3 to 5 minutes.
This would make the DF-41 the world's longest range missile, surpassing the range of the US LGM-30 Minuteman which has a reported range of 13,000 km. Throw weight of LGM-30 is only 1000kg or just 3 numbers of 170kton nukes. USA UGM-133 Trident II throw weight is only 2,800 kg.
As by Jan 2017, Chinese media have reported the deployment of three brigades of DF-41 ICBMs. There is photographic evidence of a possible fourth brigade of DF-41 ICBMs on the Tibetan plateau. However, we have only counted the number of DF-41 ICBM TELs (ie. Transporter Erector Launcher), or 4 X 12 TELs
It is inefficient to fire only one ballistic missile per launcher. It is more logical to fire two ballistic missiles per launcher. This process is called re-loading. A DF-41 TEL can either be re-loaded with another DF-41 ICBM missile nearby or the DF-41 TEL can drive to a hidden re-supply location for another DF-41 ICBM.
If you accept that China has one re-load missile for each DF-41 TEL then the total number of Chinese DF-41 ICBMs has to be doubled.
Four brigades of DF-41 ICBMs (Heilongjiang, Henan, Xinjiang, and Tibet Provinces) with one re-load per DF-41 TEL yields 96 total DF-41 ICBMs.
How many brigades of DF-41 since 2017 number of 4 brigades?
6 Brigades or 8 Brigades?
Reported DF-41 Deployment: China 'Responding to US Missile Defense in Asia'
Expert: DF-41 among most advanced missiles in the world
If China got only 260 thermonukes like what everyone is saying and hoping, the surplus warheads will be delivering dim sum and tea bags and cleaned pressed laundry from Chinese laundrymen.
Please remember DF-41 got a very big brother coming up as well in case you think DF-41 not worthy enough to deliver dim sum and tea bags and cleaned laundry.
Russia’s RS-28 “Sarmat” ten-ton payload, rated as the most dangerous ICBM . Reportedly it may carry up to fifteen 350 kiloton warheads, or up to twenty-four of the new “Avangard” nuclear-armed Hypersonic Glide Vehicle (HGV) warheads. Sarmat will be dwarfed by Chinese new missile with even larger twenty-ton payload. That will be solid-fuel space-launch vehicle (SLV), and could form the basis for what might become the world’s largest “mobile” ICBM.
The Next China Military Threat: The World's Biggest Mobile ICBM?
And the JL3, on Chinese subs. JL3 navalised version of DF-41. There will be 8 number of Type 094 subs by 2020 (6 now) . And China building 6 numbers of Type 096 simultaneously, equivalent or better than Ohio, each will carry 24 JL-3.
You still feeling lucky?
SSBNs
Type 094 Jin Class SSBN
Currently 6 of type 094 but projected to be 8 in years to come.
Carrying 12 numbers of JL-2, mirving 3–4 thermonuclear warheads.
Or 288 nuclear warheads
Type 096 Tang Class SSBN
This is similar to Ohio Class
Carrying 24 JL-3 missiles , each mirving 5–7 warheads.
Currently, 6 numbers of 096 SSBNs are being build simultaneously.
Using 6x24x5, we have 720 thermonuclear warheads.
Or at least 1000 nukes can be delivered by China.
Or the warheads delivered are empty.
More likely than not, China got about 2000 to 3000 numbers of plutonium/U235 cores , together with assemblies of 2000 to 3000 thermonukes. Without the cores inserted and thereby making them a thermonuclear bomb, China got no nukes.
But if the situation is very dangerous, those 2000 to 3000 cores can be inserted in a matter of days into the 2000 to 3000 assemblies.
If China is ever turned into a nuclear wasteland, those that send nukes into China will be nuked into glowing and molten multicolored wasteland.
China promised never to use the first nuke. But if just one nuke land on China or her forces,
ALL THE USA BASES FROM EUROPE, DIEGO GARCIA , SINGAPORE . JAPAN AND USA HERSELF WILL BE SEAS AND LAKES OF MOLTEN MULTI COLOR GLASS.
None of the USA carriers will be spared.
The carriers will be taken out with nukes even if the carriers hide in Frisco Bay or in the Atlantic Ocean or any other ocean.
And as demonstrated so clearly in KSA a few days ago, the Aegis and Patriot systems defending Saudi a joke as the Aegis and Patriot cannot even detect a few sub Mach cruise missiles not to talk of taking them down. Even to now, no one sure where those came from and who flown them. Despite overlapping coverage of those Patriot and Aegis systems.
New sales pitch? US makes the world’s ‘finest’ anti-air systems, but sometimes they just don’t work, Pompeo explains
Saudi air defenses like Patriot & Aegis don’t match their advertised properties, unfit for real combat – Russian Army (MAP)
How will the Aegis defend against 300–400++ Mach 3s AShMs aimed at each Murican CAGs???
How will the Patriot systems in USA defend against ICBMs coming in at speed of Mach 25 when they cannot even detect missiles at sub Mach or even know where the missiles came from despite overlapping coverage?
And do not imagine there are only 260 Chinese nuclear warheads .
Allies of the country that nuke China will not go unpunished as well. Whether they could not stop USA or do not want to stop USA or USA do not want to listen to them will be irrelevant to China.
A nuked China will be very very weak. And China recalled the days where the British and French and Japan and USA came to carve her up when China was weak.
China will not allow that to happen again.
China will ensure those countries will be weaker than a nuked China,
or exist only in name after a nuked China
So please let peace prevail and it is irrelevant whether you think China only got 260 nukes
The lucky ones will be those that die in the first micro second.
Those still alive a year later will wish they gone at the very beginning.
And why the war fought or even started, no one will give a flying fuck as to the reasons.
A simple calculation will show to you China ICBMs have collectively much greater throw weight of nukes, and coming into USA and USA bases and carrier locations and USA Allies via hypersonic delivery systems that cannot be intercepted.
Even so, China never ever threatened to use nukes. Other than if nuke used on China, China will retaliate and use nukes as well.
Unlike USA rednecks who threatened to use nukes for anything and everything like a spoiled child throwing tantrums, such as in raising this question.
So please be peaceful and respectful and more courtesy, and no more phony FONOPs and playing games of who will blink with China with phony FONOPs. Do not play with fire regarding Taiwan. AND DO NOT THREATEN TO NUKE CHINA.
not him... this is the loyal ahmeng not the asset ahmeng.
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