Stupid tit for tat: Indonesian author calls Singapore stooge of USA

[yellowarse]

Saying Singapore military is a stooge of Pentagon is as accurate as saying SDP is a stooge of the US Democrats. Spot on.

Wah, GE2015 still a long way off, why so kan cheong? In one afternoon you managed to start an SDP-spoofing thread, and sneak in an anti-SDP post here.

Has the ISD upped the rate per keystroke for the PAP IB?

 

[890aw]

Don't pull SDP into this issue.

If Singapore is not the stooge of USA, then stop spying on its neighbours, stop letting US ships dock at the naval base and refuse US (and Israeli) delegates from booking into Mindef.

Otherwise no one should take offence when Singapore is called an outpost of western imperialist powers.

But Singapore relies on the US and it's allies for defense. Why should they stop spying when their neighbors spy on Singapore as well. Let's be honest here, the US and it's allies are far more trustworthy and have more in common with Singaporeans than it's neighbors.

 

[whoami]

But Singapore relies on the US and it's allies for defense. Why should they stop spying when their neighbors spy on Singapore as well. Let's be honest here, the US and it's allies are far more trustworthy and have more in common with Singaporeans than it's neighbors.

Dumb post.

I rather trust China than warmonger USA.

 

[Reddog]

I beg to differ, we are the lapdogs of China not the US of A

As a Chinese country it is alright for sinkapore to be a lapdog of China.

 

[The_Hypocrite]

as if indon n mudland r not stooges of the usa. if usa economic embargo them they r fucked. whole of asean r usa lap dogs. if they dont like it. they can suck up to china..but of course the price of china's friendship wont b cheap...

 

[whoami]

But i know of 1 man who dont suck up to uncle sam and hes non other than Dr Mahathir.

 

[yellowarse]

But i know of 1 man who dont suck up to uncle sam and hes non other than Dr Mahathir.

Agree. For that I'll always respect him more than old fart. He may be the 7% man, he may be a chauvinist, he may be a nepotist, but he did two things right:

1. Standing up to Uncle Sam and the Jews
2. Stepping down when his time was up

Old fart couldn't do these 2 things, and he's more racist and just as nepotistic and corrupt, just that he leegalized that corruption in the form of multi-million dollar paychecks.

 

[red amoeba]

We cannot b stooge if China even if we want to ...our predicament will b worse surrounded by millions of Muslims

Lky said bf he is happy to host Chinese naval warships n us warships at changi lest we have a mass orgy bet the yanks n chinks

Indonesia w that article reflect their jealously ... The childishness of the arguments is plain to see

 

[890aw]

We cannot b stooge if China even if we want to ...our predicament will b worse surrounded by millions of Muslims

Lky said bf he is happy to host Chinese naval warships n us warships at changi lest we have a mass orgy bet the yanks n chinks

Indonesia w that article reflect their jealously ... The childishness of the arguments is plain to see

True, these people are just unrealistic. PAP is irrelevant with the blue bloc-Singapore alliance.

Indonesia did the same with the Australia. Just plain jealous and temper tantrum from Indonesia. Damn hypocritical too, as if the m&ds don't spy on their neighbors. Singapore, SK, Australia, Japan are all used as spying agencies by the US and the West because those are the countries that help them. If not for Uncle Sam, Singapore would have been invaded by the Muslim nations by now. And if we were China's allies, there's no way China is going to help. And the US and the West wouldn't either because opportunistic Malay and Indon Muslims would use "communist ally" as pretext even though they are 1000x worse and it's clear they hate the West yet they depend on the West too. All their cool, outdated tech is actually bought from the Western countries and their Asian allies, i.e. Japan, Korea, you get the drift.

Yellowarse is retarded if he thinks that Singapore being an ally of the West bloc is dangerous for Singapore. In fact, it is the reason why Singapore is safe.

 

[890aw]

Dumb post.

I rather trust China than warmonger USA.

Don't be ridiculous. China's territorial ambition is clear to see. They don't care about anyone except themselves. They are allies with rogue and terrorist states like Iran, North Korea and Fakistan. Ever wonder why?

If Singapore was China's ally, it would be in deep shit right now. At least the USA does back up it's allies. Look at Philippines and Japan. They even help SK.

 

[yellowarse]

Yellowarse is retarded if he thinks that Singapore being an ally of the West bloc is dangerous for Singapore. In fact, it is the reason why Singapore is safe.

Ha ha ... who's the retard who couldn't tell a spoof from a real news article?

http://www.sammyboy.com/showthread....eface-Guan-Yin-Statute-caught-on-video!/page3

Did Bush find any WMD when he invaded Iraq? Be honest.

LOL.

 

[Kohliantye]

Remember readers, at the height of the Indo-China Conflict, when the Yankees were desperately trying to prop up the tottering South Vietnamese regime, we were told repeatedly, "Beware of the Domino Theory". This was a reference that the fall of Saigon would eventually lead to the fall of Malaysia and Singapore.

The forces of Ho Chi Minh sacked Saigon, renamed it Ho Chi Minh city. The Yankees ran helter-skelter onto their embassy roof-top to escape from the onslaught of legions of Vietcongs baying for blood. Helicopters fall from that roof in 1973 scenes.

Local supporters were "conveniently" abandoned in favour of their own people. The fleeing Americans had no place for their supporters. They were left to die along with thousands of Amerasians - innocent products of coital relations between Yankees and Vietnamese women.

The same thing happened when the Japanese took over Singapore and British troops ran onto vessels in our Harbour Board and naval base with their families, abandoning the locals who were their loyal supporters in uniform and other services.

Now the North Vietnamese won the Indo-China conflict and re-united Vietnam. Like the French, the Americans were booted out too.

40 years on since 1973, I am still waiting for the effect of that so-called "Domino Theory".

 

[3_M]

But Singapore relies on the US and it's allies for defense. Why should they stop spying when their neighbors spy on Singapore as well. Let's be honest here, the US and it's allies are far more trustworthy and have more in common with Singaporeans than it's neighbors.

Where is US when Russian attack their ally Georgia? Did US help Prez Musharraf, their ally of 3 decades in the Middle East? Why US didn't help KMT against the communist in China? Being a stooge of US doesn't guarantee that they will come to your aid when u need them,.

 

[tonychat]

40 years on since 1973, I am still waiting for the effect of that so-called "Domino Theory".

You spend your life waiting for this shit?

 

[eatshitndie]

40 years on since 1973, I am still waiting for the effect of that so-called "Domino Theory".

it stopped in cambodia as infighting among commie factions especially between the khmer rouge supported by prc and viet-cam stooges supported by vietnam and the soviets came head to head. if the commies were united, they would have rolled over the sg-supported (err asean-supported) faction near the thigh border, thighland, mudland, sinkisland, and possibly some islands of indon, such as batam as they couldn't wait banging the chickens there and eating kueh lapi made with very yellow eggs from those same chickens. :p

 

[sleaguepunter]

Don't pull SDP into this issue.

If Singapore is not the stooge of USA, then stop spying on its neighbours,stop letting US ships dock at the naval base and refuse US (and Israeli) delegates from booking into Mindef.

Otherwise no one should take offence when Singapore is called an outpost of western imperialist powers.

i prefer to call it intelligence gathering, it always better to have more informations. Wars were won or averted by knowing more than your enemies. i see no problems in spying (your word) on neighbours as long dont get caught. simple as that. nation states relationship are maintain by mutual interests, not neighbourly love.

 

[yellowarse]

i prefer to call it intelligence gathering, it always better to have more informations. Wars were won or averted by knowing more than your enemies. i see no problems in spying (your word) on neighbours as long dont get caught. simple as that. nation states relationship are maintain by mutual interests, not neighbourly love.

Nations spy on one another, even their closest neighbours. Everyone knows and accepts that.

What is not on is spying on your neighbour/ally/friend for a foreign power, especially one who is not seen as friendly to your alliance (ASEAN).

How would the US feel if it found out that the UK was spying on the Americans for the KGB?

 

[laksaboy]

i prefer to call it intelligence gathering, it always better to have more informations. Wars were won or averted by knowing more than your enemies. i see no problems in spying (your word) on neighbours as long dont get caught. simple as that. nation states relationship are maintain by mutual interests, not neighbourly love.

Again, you are missing the point.

It is okay to gather intelligence for yourself.

However, it is not okay to spy on your neighbours for the USA.

That is why Singapore is a stooge of the USA.

 

[sleaguepunter]

it stopped in cambodia as infighting among commie factions especially between the khmer rouge supported by prc and viet-cam stooges supported by vietnam and the soviets came head to head. if the commies were united, they would have rolled over the sg-supported (err asean-supported) faction near the thigh border, thighland, mudland, sinkisland, and possibly some islands of indon, such as batam as they couldn't wait banging the chickens there and eating kueh lapi made with very yellow eggs from those same chickens. :p

pls lah, the domino theory cannot hold water in the first place. even if khmer rouge didnt turn up, it very hard for the viet commies to take over cambodia. viet cong won the war against US was due to USA cannot accept any more of her young men getting kill in the meat grinder. the NVA and viet cong lost every enagements against the US military.

domino theory was being use by politicians to scare their citizens as a cover to put political rivals into jail and at the same time turn into despot to rule over the land in terror.

 

[Sideswipe]

pls lah, the domino theory cannot hold water in the first place. even if khmer rouge didnt turn up, it very hard for the viet commies to take over cambodia. viet cong won the war against US was due to USA cannot accept any more of her young men getting kill in the meat grinder. the NVA and viet cong lost every enagements against the US military.

domino theory was being use by politicians to scare their citizens as a cover to put political rivals into jail and at the same time turn into despot to rule over the land in terror.

don't forget China who sent more than 300,000 troops and more than $20 billion to support the North Vietnam and Vietcong then. why the world generally believed the Communist propaganda that China gave little military aid to North Vietnam ( the aid was massive in truth ), and Vietcong was not connected with North Vietnam then ? maybe they just don't give a shit about the Vietnam war at all.