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Straits Times - stop your bullshit

Satyr

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It's okay. Every newspaper in the world has its own policy and its own goals and targets. ST is no different. If you disagree with the article, you can always email to him and gauge his response.

I have read a few articles by the Chua Sisters. Sometimes, I disagreed with what they had written. I emailed to them and stated my opinions. And they were gracious and kind enough to reply to me.

There is no hidden agenda in all the articles that I have read so far. The only hidden agenda is our own bias - IMHO.

There are some people who come across as so unlikeable even on the occasions you agree with them you wish you didn't. The Chua sisters (or at least one of them) do that to me.
 

Lionheart

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Thanks for your suggestion, but I will not waste my time and effort if he is out to prove his point. There will be sources he can produce that will back these addiction claims. There are enough sources from medical institutions since the 50s in support of anti-pot laws then. My stance is to try it for oneself and be your own judge.

Cheers!

I totally agree. The medical world is full of fraud. The pharmaceutical world is worse. Take for example the anti-cervix cancer vaccines. Several papers warned about the severe adverse effects while the producers of the vaccines vehemently denied and even demolished the authenicity of the findings. The same goes for the anti flu jabs and even MMR jabs for kids.

I think we can make our own decision and we can also draw our own conclusion. The articles are for mass consumption and if you do not agree with what the writers wrote or advocated, there is no compulsion for anyone to follow. Cheers!
 

eatshitndie

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legalization of cannabis, a.k.a. marijuana, is a problem. and i'm telling it from bay area cities that have enjoyed (for a better word) legalized cannabis for medicinal use for many years now. in fact, since 1996, prop 215 was passed and california became the 1st state to legalize it, not colorado. prop 215 was followed by senate bill 420 which allows a voluntary statewide patent id system to be created and any patient to grow their own plants. but sb420 restricts consumption of the weed within 1000 feet of a school, on school buses, in any vehicle that is in motion, and in any boat that is being operated.

because of state legalization, the feds which still operate with federal laws that consider the weed illegal keep at arms' length within state, county or city jurisdiction but will arrest a user or grower if one steps into federal jurisdiction. what ensues is a cat and mouse game among fed agencies, state and local law enforcement and marijuana growers. local law enforcement do not typically go after errant users but organized criminal growers out to flood the black market, as demand in the black market outstrip that in the registered businesses which have to have their weed certified for medicinal use. due to registration, certification and quality control, cannabis sold in "legit" shops are more expensive, and the seller requires a physician's prescription from the buyer. in black markets, it's easy peesy to get your weed. and that's where the problem lies.

it spawns an underground economy of growers, sellers, resellers and buyers, totally under the noses of local and state law enforcement. intentions of prop 215 and sb 420 are to introduce legalized cannabis, eliminate all illegal activities and ease restrictions on the growing and use of weed. unfortunately, after years, the results are far from original intentions. they are in fact getting worse. both organized crime, gangs and disorganized individuals and groups on the fringe have taken over. small timers grow their weed in garages, homes and abandoned properties, way beyond the 6 to 12 plants per home allowed by sb 420. big timers, especially the mexican drug cartels, wanting to get a pie of the new "open" market, move their ops to california and secretly grow huge farms in the thick of national parks and forests where rangers seldom go. if park rangers show up inadvertently, they get shot. there have been several cases of crop bust where the feds have to be called in to clear the very violent growers and their illegal farms. the irony. original "legit" shop owners selling the weed are now being replaced by rival street gangs vying for market share. there is more violence now in the streets of oakland than anytime in history, as oakland is typically the canary in a coal mine for any drug or weed legalization. oakland has perhaps the largest number of weed shops passing off as legit, confounding the city and her law enforcement which is already stretched to limits and besieged with random shootings. cities such as sf and sj have to decrease number of permits to reduce the proliferation of fly-by-night businesses and shops selling weed. where ever there's a weed joint (no pun intended), there's sleaziness and crime. and other businesses and enterprise stay away. weed ghettos are becoming a norm in these big cities, and you'll notice the filth, darkness and negativity. it's like sauron has won the war of the ring and mount doom is spewing weed smoke and ashes all day and night.

we don't know when this will end in california, especially with more murders by mexican drug cartels and the hood's gangbangers fighting for control. and while weed is selling at cut throat margins, these jokers up the ante with a meth war. it's a natural progression of events and market upselling. it's like conglomerates competing for all the colorful pie charts from cannabis to meth to heroine. if you can't compete in cannabis, you can't compete in meth. it's just a matter of time before colorado is saddled with similar california problems, and with the massive encroachment and invasion of the mexican cartels. :rolleyes:
 

Agoraphobic

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The problem lies in the huge demand for weed, and the partial "legalization." If it were fully legal and commercial cultivation, supply would bring the price down, and users could legally purchase them from street stores. Because of this partial, or rather medical legality, some people can get it easily, others still have to get it from the black market. The Bay area is a huge big market for drugs with all the high-society lifestyles, the wannabes, college kids, and the average working class Joe who wants in on the action. So the gangs profit from where legit businesses can't operate.

The best way out is to totally legalize it, and let demand and supply settle the price. How else you want to stop it? Tell Americans not to smoke pot? Singaporeans you can, but not anyone else. Hell, you can even stop Singaporeans from chewing gum! And I wonder how the public will retort in Frisco if a newspaper tells them that pot is addictive!

Cheers!

legalization of cannabis, a.k.a. marijuana, is a problem...
 

eatshitndie

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The problem lies in the huge demand for weed, and the partial "legalization."

it will require decades for full legalization to produce desired results. quite similar to gambling and the full legalization of casinos in the entire state of nevada. in the early days of las vegas when full legalization of casinos was introduced, organized crime and unruly thugs moved in. and a war for control ensued. it was so bad for decades that local law enforcement required brave souls and courageous gunslingers ready to exact justice against criminals who outgunned and outclassed them. casualties among officers of the law were high, but america had a rich history of brave, independent sheriffs with hearts of steel. and feds are well staffed with good duty-bound fbi and atf agents. don't expect sg to have these same tough heroes. ultimately, after decades of buffoonery, bloodshed, bribery and buyout, the biggest mafia groups outgunned and outclassed the small timers into oblivion and took over the most valuable part of the strip. and their "enterprises" become fully legit and law-abiding, complying with state regulations and helping to enact many to keep whipper snapper hopefulls, competitors and challengers away. these former big time crime syndicates become part of the system and regulation. they become the financiers, fund raisers, political contributors, and the local government. they are behind every high office elected, including that of the mayorship and sheriff. they become the law. same will happen to california and colorado with full legalization of weed and narcotics. the big guns with the power and money to win at the end will change the rules after winning to ensure both rules and law are stacked in their favor for perpetuity. doesn't it sound familiar in sinkieland? :rolleyes:
 

Agoraphobic

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Actually, I am quite satisfied with the current status of weed in Canada. It is still illegal, but most people don't give a bother about it, including cops (unless its a white cop, and black user). All my neighbours smoke the stuff, some regularly, some rarely, but nobody bothers. If you want it, you can get it. And it is good to know the cops don't go around busting ordinary folk for it. My neighbour even told his teen kids that if they smoke pot, to do it at home or at their friend's home, just not out in the streets (I wonder how he'll monitor that!) However, work is work and as far as I know, everybody is very adult about it, I have not seen anyone come into work stoned. The only problem is that the underworld is the one getting the better part of the deal, but pot isn't the problem, it is cocaine. For the most part, the criminal organizations have kept it within their own circles, but there have been a few occasions the violence spews out and some innocent bystanders get hurt. That's another story and a world different from the one I walk and live in.

Weed will one day become legal here because the gov't wants the money from the tax, but that doesn't change anything for me, quite contended the way things are.

Singapore - that's up to her citizens. It doesn't bother me really. I just abide by the laws while here.

Cheers!

it will require decades for full legalization to produce desired results...
 
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