Singaporean are coward, pathetic and damn obedient citizen

[chonburifc]

??? But I still can feel my two little ding dong.

That is just an illusion pappies give you.

 

[DuYunQi]

Dear Tony,

Although I agree with you that most Sgs r afraid, (heck even I am fearful of being targeted and locked up and put away.. aren't you?), it must be said that their fear is not without reason or even evidence.

Dissension is not treated lightly wif the current ruling party. People who go confronting them face attacks from the whole party, and one wrong word said or published WILL result in a court case saying "defamation of so and so". The late Jeya of WP was bankrupt cos of such court actions against him.

Now, if you don't know the disadvantages of being a bankrupt in SG... here's a link to give you an idea : http://www.moneysmart.sg/frugal-living/bankrupt-in-singapore-what-are-the-consequences/

But, apart from being "targeted" and possibly facing any legal actions by the pappies, if you're taken to be a "serious threat", you could be taken by the ISD, under the ISA and be detained without trial.. and who knows when you can be free again.

if this doesn't put any fear into you, then stand out and start something.. saying that Sg people are cowards is NOT going to help. At least that's what I feel.

With all due respect, your actions might be trying to stir up some "courage" in others.. but what if the people come at you with, "yuo start, we follow..". What will you do then?

Now.. (i hope I can still post here tomorrow.. or else I might be taken by the you know who) unless there is a big.. BIG group of people.. who actually go on the streets.. shouting, putting up banners, placards, and all will not reveal who is the leader or mastermind.. but instead say "there is no leader, we are together.." then.. the you know who.. will probably "dig out" whoever is the "brains" and lock that person up. That is.. provided something like this happens.

If "take over Wall Street" can spread to even HK, but not in SG.. you probably can have a rough idea that folks here want to carry on with their lives without any interuptions (hint hint). But.. we are not seeing any protests or serious public anger showing, probably because the "heat" is not burning the majority.. yet.

If the young (schooling or in unis) don't have a clue why some people are losing jobs to foreigners, and instead believe that "singaporeans are fussy and lazy", then pappies will not be shaken. It's the over 30s and 40s that are facing alot of serious setbacks when applying for jobs.. and these people, althought can vote against pappies.. may be "cowed or brainwashed" back by foolish beliefs that the pappies WILL help them out in the end.

If you are in your mid 30s and go to a new job, you're probably facing a majority, if not an entire department or organization of YOUNG colleagues and immediate superiors. Guess what? These people will probably stereotype you as "OLD< SLOW.. etcetc" and make you an outcast.. just cos of your age. It WILL take time to win them over.. if you want to survive and stay in that company.

But I digress.. the thing is.. most places now will probably have more foreigners than locals.. and THEY don't want you to make a solid foundation in their "stronghold". They will gang up on you and if you're not strong, you will wither and resign on your own.

And so.. unless both the YOUNG, and the present PMEs, who are facing the FT onslaught can form a togetherness in thought, then the young will view the older as passe and outdated, while the older will call the young ignorant and naive.

IMHO neither is absolutely wrong, it's just the barrier in communication and the understanding that is not making them form a solid alliance to actually do something.

We are not UNITED. It's that plain and simple. And the fact that we KNOW what can happen if we go against the you know who.. that we thread very carefully.

so.. from a selfconfessed coward (cos i dun want to be locked away) to you, dear tony. Will you stand forth to start something so that more will follow?

 

[wendychan]

oh dear you have been given so much and you are such an ungrateful brute, shaming the hand that feeds you...


and im being sarcastic here...in case there is any misunderstand

 

[droopal]

Originally posted by :
Agoraphobic

"Singaporeans, as human beings in this world are actually quite contented with the political situation in Singapore. The have repeatedly relected the ongoing govenment - because they are happy with their economic status and the wealth and stability they enjoy."

Please read the following articles and feel the ground :

56 percent of Singaporeans are thinking of migrating. Most common reasons cited includes low job opportunities due to competition from foreigners, high cost of public housing, rising medical cost etc.
http://singaporenewsalternative.blogspot.com/2012/10/omy.html

More than 60% of Singapore workers complain of heavy workload and work stress
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/jobscentral-survey-more-60-singapore-workers-complain-heavy-031408141--finance.html

Singaporeans becoming anti-foreigner.
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/are-singaporeans-becoming-racist-.html

 

[chonburifc]

oh dear you have been given so much and you are such an ungrateful brute, shaming the hand that feeds you...


and im being sarcastic here...in case there is any misunderstand

Wah lan eh, Izzit you must hijack every thread like that? Stick to your own thread lah.

 

[GoldenDragon]

By the way, Suhbas is criminal lawyer, You need a political/human rights lawyer to take on the government. You just can't ask a guy to fight the government just because he is quoted as the "Best" criminal lawyer in Singapore, he is most likely a PAP supporter.

Subhas is certainly not the best criminal lawyer in town. Top 5, he is not there too. He is desperately waiting for SC appointment. This guy may appear a hero to some, but he is not as daring as most suspect he is. He knows the cost of offending the MIW.

 

[wendychan]

Wah lan eh, Izzit you must hijack every thread like that? Stick to your own thread lah.

well i see the powerful acting and i must protect myself, putting words in my mouth but quite obviuosly being guided so that there is no defamation, ,,,

 

[Kuailan]

Sickapoorean has been under threat since Papaya gahmen took office way back 1959 till today!

The Papaya has been pressuring us in the Pressure cooker for too long! Sickapoorean are really

obedient as a pet doggie, whilst the Papaya will be like master to the doggies! bark! sit! stand up! we followed!!

Its time to wake up and show your true color, look at out neighbours are braver than us!! they have guts we have no balls!!

 

[droopal]

Originally posted by :
Kuailan

"Its time to wake up and show your true color, look at out neighbours are braver than us!! they have guts we have no balls!!"

Well said!

Sinkieland should get a "NOBALLS" prize awards.

 

[kopiuncle]

what courage are we talking about here? courage to raise a rebellion? courage to wage a war? courage to incite? what courage...

we all have courage in our hearts. there is no reason to use this courage in a reckless and mindless manner. do not underestimate the courage which resides in our hearts and souls.

singaporeans are not stupid. singaporeans are not cowards. singaporean are not slaves. they know what is going on. even the kopi uncles and aunties know what is going on.

you cannot rob a poor man. you cannot continue to plunder and squander . singaporeans are not stupid....they know and they will weigh the pros and the cons....and they will make the right decision at the right time.

so please don't despise singaporeans....and call people dogs and ball less....you might have to eat your own words and lick your own when the chips are down....

 

[scbccb]

Strange leh, North Korea is not globalised like Singapore?

There are two countries in the world that I can think of which has very coward and obedient citizen – North Korean and Singapore.

 

[kopiuncle]

If Singapore is like North Korea, many of us here would have been exterminated and dead by now.

 

[syed putra]

Before u can kick PAP out, you must ask for a fair electoral system.

 

[chonburifc]

If Singapore is like North Korea, many of us here would have been exterminated and dead by now.

You go get fuck by dog. Instiling fear again.

 

[kopiuncle]

no need to feel the fear if you are a patriotic and honest citizen. only dogs need to be feared.

 

[babuSingh]

what courage are we talking about here? courage to raise a rebellion? courage to wage a war? courage to incite? what courage...

we all have courage in our hearts. there is no reason to use this courage in a reckless and mindless manner. do not underestimate the courage which resides in our hearts and souls.

singaporeans are not stupid. singaporeans are not cowards. singaporean are not slaves. they know what is going on. even the kopi uncles and aunties know what is going on.

you cannot rob a poor man. you cannot continue to plunder and squander . singaporeans are not stupid....they know and they will weigh the pros and the cons....and they will make the right decision at the right time.

so please don't despise singaporeans....and call people dogs and ball less....you might have to eat your own words and lick your own when the chips are down....

Totally agree with you...obedient and coward is not equal to ball less and dogs.....singaporeans are not stupid...if you see in a meeting, most smart people are the ones keeping quiet and constantly asking themselves questions. Those KNN jiak liao bee people always talk the most, suggesting non-constructive ideas and make people confused so they can keep bombing...

 

[tonychat]

what courage are we talking about here? courage to raise a rebellion? courage to wage a war? courage to incite? what courage...

we all have courage in our hearts. there is no reason to use this courage in a reckless and mindless manner. do not underestimate the courage which resides in our hearts and souls.

singaporeans are not stupid. singaporeans are not cowards. singaporean are not slaves. they know what is going on. even the kopi uncles and aunties know what is going on.

you cannot rob a poor man. you cannot continue to plunder and squander . singaporeans are not stupid....they know and they will weigh the pros and the cons....and they will make the right decision at the right time.

so please don't despise singaporeans....and call people dogs and ball less....you might have to eat your own words and lick your own when the chips are down....

the courage to take back their own rights and power and belonging of their country.

yes, they are cowards as they know what needs to be done for the benefit of their land, but no balls to do it.

are you telling me what i should do when i face sinkies? who the fuck do you think you are to tell me what i should do?

you are too used to getting orders from your PAP master and do what you are told for years and you expect others to follow such 3rd world, primitive behavior?

Not all people will behave like a low life 3rd world shit even thought you are like that for years. Please , the world is made up of many courageous people who have self-respect and integrity, unlike you.

 

[tonychat]

Dear Tony,

Although I agree with you that most Sgs r afraid, (heck even I am fearful of being targeted and locked up and put away.. aren't you?), it must be said that their fear is not without reason or even evidence.

Dissension is not treated lightly wif the current ruling party. People who go confronting them face attacks from the whole party, and one wrong word said or published WILL result in a court case saying "defamation of so and so". The late Jeya of WP was bankrupt cos of such court actions against him.

Now, if you don't know the disadvantages of being a bankrupt in SG... here's a link to give you an idea : http://www.moneysmart.sg/frugal-living/bankrupt-in-singapore-what-are-the-consequences/

But, apart from being "targeted" and possibly facing any legal actions by the pappies, if you're taken to be a "serious threat", you could be taken by the ISD, under the ISA and be detained without trial.. and who knows when you can be free again.

if this doesn't put any fear into you, then stand out and start something.. saying that Sg people are cowards is NOT going to help. At least that's what I feel.

With all due respect, your actions might be trying to stir up some "courage" in others.. but what if the people come at you with, "yuo start, we follow..". What will you do then?

Now.. (i hope I can still post here tomorrow.. or else I might be taken by the you know who) unless there is a big.. BIG group of people.. who actually go on the streets.. shouting, putting up banners, placards, and all will not reveal who is the leader or mastermind.. but instead say "there is no leader, we are together.." then.. the you know who.. will probably "dig out" whoever is the "brains" and lock that person up. That is.. provided something like this happens.

If "take over Wall Street" can spread to even HK, but not in SG.. you probably can have a rough idea that folks here want to carry on with their lives without any interuptions (hint hint). But.. we are not seeing any protests or serious public anger showing, probably because the "heat" is not burning the majority.. yet.

If the young (schooling or in unis) don't have a clue why some people are losing jobs to foreigners, and instead believe that "singaporeans are fussy and lazy", then pappies will not be shaken. It's the over 30s and 40s that are facing alot of serious setbacks when applying for jobs.. and these people, althought can vote against pappies.. may be "cowed or brainwashed" back by foolish beliefs that the pappies WILL help them out in the end.

If you are in your mid 30s and go to a new job, you're probably facing a majority, if not an entire department or organization of YOUNG colleagues and immediate superiors. Guess what? These people will probably stereotype you as "OLD< SLOW.. etcetc" and make you an outcast.. just cos of your age. It WILL take time to win them over.. if you want to survive and stay in that company.

But I digress.. the thing is.. most places now will probably have more foreigners than locals.. and THEY don't want you to make a solid foundation in their "stronghold". They will gang up on you and if you're not strong, you will wither and resign on your own.

And so.. unless both the YOUNG, and the present PMEs, who are facing the FT onslaught can form a togetherness in thought, then the young will view the older as passe and outdated, while the older will call the young ignorant and naive.

IMHO neither is absolutely wrong, it's just the barrier in communication and the understanding that is not making them form a solid alliance to actually do something.

We are not UNITED. It's that plain and simple. And the fact that we KNOW what can happen if we go against the you know who.. that we thread very carefully.

so.. from a selfconfessed coward (cos i dun want to be locked away) to you, dear tony. Will you stand forth to start something so that more will follow?

You talked based on the view that the person who protest and fight against his right is doing it by one or a few person. As PAP has used Dr Chee as an example to show others what will happen to a person who goes against the govt.

If sinkies are sincerely in wanting to get their rights and the belonging of their country back, they should not do it alone. support has to be gathered by the masses.

You say that public anger needs to be there first, then actions will follow. I think you have underestimated the sinkieiness of your freaking country.

Sinkies will not have the balls to do it even if they are super angry. Their ball-lessness are not doing them good. The PAP govt set up laws to disunite the people from gathering to form masses. Which is totally unjustifiable. Why follow laws that are unjustifiable.

For protest to take places, you need masses of unselfish and selfless effort to bring down the govt villains. PAP govt is making use of the selfishness of sinkies and fear to control you. By doing what is opposite of what is intended to control you, you will surely bring the govt down.

nothing can control selfless effort. A True first world country with human rights and freedom are not fought by being ball-less and waiting others selfishly to do it. Everyone must make a stand selflessly.

From your post, it sure means that you do not deserve such a real first world country in your country of birth base on your coward behavior and mindset.

Protest and getting your rights back by CHANGING the law which is unjustifiable is not done by one person, it is done by thousands and millions of people to force the gov to back down. This is the way to get back your rights.


will you make a stand to educate the masses of what rightful rights in the country do the people in your country have? Do you want to have a country that respect you as a human being. Do you feel that you deserve living in such a country.

From the way you post, i do not think you deserve it.


You talk about your people not united and you just let it be, like some gone case scenario. Just like a person who thinking of venturing out for business but having thoughts of so much negative things that he finally give up doing it. I called it being a lowlife wimp. Freedom are not won by wimps, they are won by people who has the balls to go for it, similar as doing business and making it successful.

You are what you deserve to be. You create the actions to demand what is your rights and not waiting for others to do it for you.

 

[Agoraphobic]

Originally posted by :
Agoraphobic
..............................

Please read the following articles and feel the ground :

56 percent of Singaporeans are thinking of migrating. Most common reasons cited includes low job opportunities due to competition from foreigners, high cost of public housing, rising medical cost etc.
http://singaporenewsalternative.blogspot.com/2012/10/omy.html

More than 60% of Singapore workers complain of heavy workload and work stress
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/jobscentral-survey-more-60-singapore-workers-complain-heavy-031408141--finance.html

Singaporeans becoming anti-foreigner.
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/are-singaporeans-becoming-racist-.html

I emigrated in the early nineties. Main reason was Sg was getting crowded. No space. Not because of no job opportunities - Sg is is probably one of the most enviable places for career opportunities and advancement. So many corporate HQs, hubs concentrated in Peesai.

Workload heavy? Then delegate it. Use your time for planning and relationship buidling. Not the nitty gritty routine.

Anti-foreigner? Shouldn't be in a place where the population are so highly-eduacted, travelled, and well-off, but somehow.......


Cheers!

 

[kopiuncle]

you are too used to getting orders from your PAP master and do what you are told for years and you expect others to follow such 3rd world, primitive behavior?

Not all people will behave like a low life 3rd world shit even thought you are like that for years. Please , the world is made up of many courageous people who have self-respect and integrity, unlike you.

when you are discussing an issue or debating on an issue, we need to respect each other so that we can continue to learn from each other. such response is the refuge of a person - seeking desperately to win public opinion or sway public opinion by calling his opponent all sorts of things. a sensible and reasonable man would not resort to such low down tactic.

we can always discuss in a civil way. why bring in master and dog and so on.