Singapore Need A Better Education System

[GoldenDragon]

Re: It's Already The End When I Saw What Was Happening In School !

I do get the impression that many students with poor command of the English Language also fare badly in Maths.

Your impression is right. Years ago, a teacher friend of mine commented that the manner in which Math questions are phrased, if your ang mo jialak case, you won't understand the question and won't get the right answer.

 

[GoldenDragon]

Re: It's Already The End When I Saw What Was Happening In School !

This Singaporean seems to possess high levels of proficiency in English and Mandarin though:

[video=youtube;tezhzB5kon8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tezhzB5kon8[/video]

He was a top student in 1977 and 1979. If don't possess high level of proficiency in English and Mandarin, we are doomed.

 

[Papsmearer]

Re: Cost May Be High

I disagree as on one hand you said there is nothing wrong and we do not need a better education system. On the other hand, you said what you see as being wrong. These are conflicting statements.

The premise of this thread on why we need a better education system is that, so we can have a much better cohort of students in general, with better abilities in creative thinking, a few that can be world leaders in the field of their expertise and even a few that can win Nobel prizes. The State and MOE should provide a better learning environment for all students. I need not delve deeper into this as in this thread we have discussed what can be done to create such an environment, like less stress, more time for learning but not for the sake of passing exams and etc. The current system is undesirable as it has made having extra tuition a must in order students can pass exams. Passing examinations is more important than learning it seems.

As you state, Singapore students do very well in other countries. That does not mean our education system is a failure, but it sure mean we need a better education system than what we have today.

The education system in mot countries is driven by the parents, and should be so. In S'pore, the parents have absconded this reponsibility to the govt. As I have mentioned, every parent sees their child as a future doctor, engineer, etc. The system is therefore geared towards the maths and hard science. If parents decided that environmental studies and social responsibility studies were more important, they should have demanded these programs and courses in the unis, just like parents in the west do. I guarantee you that if tomorrow, 250,000 parents signed a petition and 10,000 parents march on the MOE building, demanding less homework for their kid, more spaces for their children and less for FTs, more accomodation of "late bloomers", all the things that we talked about, etc., The PAP will will sit up, take notice and change the system. But it has to come from the parents and students first. This is what I mean when I say the system is fine in terms of educating the kids, but where it fails is not the system, the lack of willingness on behalf of the parents to put their foot down and say something, this apathy is the problem.

 

[tonychat]

Re: Cost May Be High

The education system in mot countries is driven by the parents, and should be so. In S'pore, the parents have absconded this reponsibility to the govt. As I have mentioned, every parent sees their child as a future doctor, engineer, etc. The system is therefore geared towards the maths and hard science. If parents decided that environmental studies and social responsibility studies were more important, they should have demanded these programs and courses in the unis, just like parents in the west do. I guarantee you that if tomorrow, 250,000 parents signed a petition and 10,000 parents march on the MOE building, demanding less homework for their kid, more spaces for their children and less for FTs, more accomodation of "late bloomers", all the things that we talked about, etc., The PAP will will sit up, take notice and change the system. But it has to come from the parents and students first. This is what I mean when I say the system is fine in terms of educating the kids, but where it fails is not the system, the lack of willingness on behalf of the parents to put their foot down and say something, this apathy is the problem.

the problem is sinkies are world's low life cowards... they deserve to be screwed.. period!!!

 

[zhihau]

Re: Cost May Be High

this apathy is the problem.

also good to note that, for a good number of folks, common sense had gone into the gutters eek:

 

[Received_by_Kings]

Actually the education system is designed in such a way that if you don't fit into the directives you'd fall gradually along the way until you are totally out of official care and nurture. Because you can't pass the entire series of tests and so you are deemed as not good.

And you'd be made to fend for yourself totally in the brave new world before you. Society, the private sector and the market within would the forces that are mainly feeding you instead of the establishment.

People have to rack their brains in sales or other forms of manual and audience-based employment mostly because they are not scholars nor do they meet such caliber in one way or another for whatever reason.

It's logical when you look at it carefully, because if you are given a job with very promising pay, perks and promotion prospects by the authorities would you really need to drain your energies and go into those above-mentioned industries to boost your finances? Unless you're that frivolous then maybe hahahaha.

 

[Received_by_Kings]

Re: Cost May Be High

if the education produce students who cannot think by themselves and have to follow and laws and rules without using the brains and no balls to fight for their rights, then the whole education system is deem a total failure.

True story: I notice that many of the local dirt here in junior high and even high school can't do well in English but could actually ace English Literature by contrast.

These ugly regurgitation specialists hahahaha. Azn Pride indeed!

 

[Received_by_Kings]

Re: Cost May Be High

the problem is sinkies are world's low life cowards... they deserve to be screwed.. period!!!

Cowards? They are animals that should be ruled by terror!

 

[keling is shit]

told you all keling shits like me are poor in maths. "Substantiating its findings are national statistics which showed that a quarter of Indian students failed their Primary School Leaving Examinations (PSLE) mathematics exam in 2009 an eight-point difference in relative to the national average.


today Thursday November 24, 2011
A push in education for Indian students, especially in maths

SINGAPORE — Indian students are
still underachieving in mathematics,
resulting in setbacks along their academic
path and later in life, the Singapore
Indian Development Association
(SINDA) concluded from its review.
Substantiating its findings are national
statistics which showed that a
quarter of Indian students failed their
Primary School Leaving Examinations
(PSLE) mathematics exam in 2009 —
an eight-point difference in relative to
the national average.
And although close to 90 per
cent of Indian students enter postsecondary
education in 2009, many
either drop out of school or found it
difficult to cope with mathematicalbased
courses, according to SINDA, as it
unveiled yesterday measures to boost
educational aspirations of the Indian
community within the next decade.
The Indian students’ difficulty
with mathematics could be due to
the lack of participation in pre-school
education, said SINDA, which found in
a survey that 17 per cent out of 400
Indian parents still do not send their
kids to pre-school.
Dr N Varaprasad, who led the review,
said: “We feel that not all Indian
parents are aware of the importance
of pre-school education, of sending
their children to nursery school, to
socialise and to learn basic literacy
and numeracy.”
He added that pre-school education
would also give kids a more level
playing field in primary school.
Still, the Indian community has
seen an improvement in academics
over the years, given that only 54 per
cent of Indian students passed PSLE
mathematics and 40 per cent entered
post-secondary education in 1990.
SINDA chairman and Deputy
Prime Minister Tharman Shanmugaratnam
noted that gaps have indeed
been reduced over the years. But he
pointed out that there is still some way
to go to achieve parity between Indian
students and the national average,
especially in the area of mathematics.
“The task is now more challenging”,
he said, as national achievement
levels have also risen.
And while some individuals have
achieved higher aspirations, Mr Tharman
added: “There remains within
the community some segments where
there is a real shortfall in aspirations
that needs to be tackled.”
Besides having to boost academic
standards of Indian pupils, the review
also saw a need to further engage youth
to enhance their motivation and to
strengthen family resilience at home.
Besides increasing awareness
on pre-school education, SINDA will
spend S$1.8 million more on programmes
and services like a new parents’
division to engage parents and an
expansion in its tuition programme.

 

[Forvendet]

There's a well known joke. PSLE means Please Stop Learning English.

 

[middaydog]

There's a well known joke. PSLE means Please Stop Learning English.

Well known meh, first time I hear this.

 

[keling is shit]

Well known meh, first time I hear this.

me too. 1st time i hear of that. and its not even funny.

 

[Cruxx]

me too. 1st time i hear of that. and its not even funny.

Sinkies aren't exactly renowned for their sense of humour.

 

[keling is shit]

Sinkies aren't exactly renowned for their sense of humour.

who say one?

i am a sinkie, i am a keling and i call myself 'keling is shit'. like that still no sense of humour?

 

[Blue_S]

Re: It's Already The End When I Saw What Was Happening In School !

testing......

 

[Ramseth]

There's a well known joke. PSLE means Please Stop Learning English.

It should be, Please Start Learning Etiquettes, and that's not a joke.

 

[Cruxx]

who say one?

i am a sinkie, i am a keling and i call myself 'keling is shit'. like that still no sense of humour?

That's self-loathing, a common trait of most Singaporeans. Don't believe me, can try asking Tonychat for his views on Sinkies

 

[keling is shit]

That's self-loathing, a common trait of most Singaporeans. Don't believe me, can try asking Tonychat for his views on Sinkies

that ladyboy lover shit has now forsaken thailand for australia. for all people, he hate himself the most.

 

[Blue_S]

testing....

 

[zhihau]

Re: Cost May Be High

if the education produce students who cannot think by themselves and have to follow and laws and rules without using the brains and no balls to fight for their rights, then the whole education system is deem a total failure.

as much as there's order in chaos, i'd rather opt for a non-violent alternative. as much as we need to fight for our rights, it's important that we do it within the boundaries of the constitution