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Very disturbing to know that history is never learnt.
Not so much never learnt, but distorted with impunity to serve one's personal agenda.
Very disturbing to know that history is never learnt.
hahaha....HTOLAS, i gave you some face and u gave me a blow below the belt.....Don't be surprised when that nickname tried to discredit the photo by claiming it was some kind of cheap forgery. Actually, I'm not that keen to engage him but I've been disturbed by his willingness to keep repeating untruths until they are accepted as truths.
hahaha...scoobal, u are really the scum of sbf to make such a statement.......phui.Watch no admission or an apology will come from this. After all they read it in a school textbook.
hahaha....HTOLAS, i gave you some face and u gave me a blow below the belt.....
i went to great length to dig up the ST reports on 1 Sep 1963 to have an insight into the so called UDI and yet u all still insist on your myopic views....
u are just another simpletom idiot who are led by the nose....
u think international relationship is masak masak???
if LKY did a UDI, it is tantamount to treason and the Brits cannot pretend like it never happened.....
they have to defend their pride....
they even went to war with Argentina over Falklands and you are naive to assume that they are simply unwilling to act against lky where they could have crushed him like a crockcroach
as for the proclaimation, it was clearly dated as from 16th Sep 1963, the very day Singapore joined the Federation...so it all fell into piece that Singapore only became independent from Britain on the day it joined the Federations as spelled out in the Agreement/Malaysian Act.
as for the proclaimation about the rights in the 4th para, it was mambo and jambo and shiok sendiri.... avoding key words like ïndependent/sovereign...
Now anyone with half a brain will be able to tell who is clutching at straws...
hahaha....u can have your pov and i can have mine....Thank you very much for spending so much of your time to address my points. It is clear that because you remain unmoved by reason and evidence, we will never agree on this. Such being the case, and since the evidence that UDI had occurred is clear to most other people, I shall withdraw from this discussion. If you feel the need to have the last word, words, sentences, paragraphs, theses on this, be my guest.
Thank you and good night.
What a scumbag! With all the evidence, the retard still hangs on to straws.
Same as the argument - your mother cannot be fucking somebody else becos she's married to your father. What a Loser! She MAY not but she can always find ways to, if she wants.
Why dont you explain the proclamation,para. 4, and what was written by Edwin Lee? The ST on 1 Sep 1963 which he himself saw also had a report that LKY punched his fist 3 times in the air and proclaimed Merdeka.
Of cos, the scumbag will now say he didnt say "Independence", but used the word Merdeka to mambo jumbo the Brits.
Uber joker, this guy.
hahaha...scroobal, u are really the scum of SBF...Pov, merdeka etc, he can be in the Russian Circus as a contortionist.
hahaha...triple confirmed empty vessel good at being a loyal dog and PLP....When the other person refuses to acknowledge the facts, the debate is effectively over. Anyone reading the thread can judge.
hahaha......what a bunch of scum....
the proclaimation clearly did not state that singapore was an independent sovereign country from 1 sep to 15 sep 1963....so what evidence are we talking about????
When the other person refuses to acknowledge the facts, the debate is effectively over. Anyone reading the thread can judge.
hahaha...this has nothing to do with politics or ego....We read their debate intensely.
Quite interesting to learn that one stands for 1963, while the other refuses.
May be, it is related to politics!
Or, ego!
We read their debate intensely.
Quite interesting to learn that one stands for 1963, while the other refuses.
May be, it is related to politics!
Or, ego!
We read their debate intensely.
Quite interesting to learn that one stands for 1963, while the other refuses.
May be, it is related to politics!
Or, ego!
Please find the BBC ref. on Singapore history as follow: -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-15971013
Independence
1946 - Singapore becomes separate crown colony.
Self rule
1957: Britain agrees to Singapore self-rule
1959 - Self-government attained with Lee Kuan Yew as prime minister.
1963 - Singapore joins the Federation of Malaya, Sabah (North Borneo), and Sarawak in the Federation of Malaysia.
1965 - Singapore pulls out of the Federation of Malaysia, at Malaysia's invitation, amid political and ethnic tensions. The territory becomes an independent republic and joins the United Nations.
1967 - Singapore founder member of Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean).
1971 - Last British military forces withdrawn.
End of an era
1984 - Two opposition MPs elected to parliament for first time.
1990 - Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew stands down after 31 years, but continues to exert significant influence as senior minister. Goh Chok Tong becomes new prime minister.
1993 - Ong Teng Cheong becomes first directly-elected president.