• IP addresses are NOT logged in this forum so there's no point asking. Please note that this forum is full of homophobes, racists, lunatics, schizophrenics & absolute nut jobs with a smattering of geniuses, Chinese chauvinists, Moderate Muslims and last but not least a couple of "know-it-alls" constantly sprouting their dubious wisdom. If you believe that content generated by unsavory characters might cause you offense PLEASE LEAVE NOW! Sammyboy Admin and Staff are not responsible for your hurt feelings should you choose to read any of the content here.

    The OTHER forum is HERE so please stop asking.

SIA A380 Makes Emergency Landing

laksaboy

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
I always believe the bigger the plane, the greater the danger lurks.....

A fatal crash from this mammoth plane is imminent.

Indeed. If only everyone can travel on a private jet.

Gulfstream-GIV-2.jpg
 

Papsmearer

Alfrescian (InfP) - Comp
Generous Asset
It is so obvious that the emergency landing charges in Western Europe were too expensive for SIA so they risked passengers' lives to land somewhere cheaper in Eastern Europe a few hours later. SIA need to be thoroughly investigated for this risky action! How can they risk passengers' lives like that? This is our national airline? Fuck!

The risky part is when they refill the plane with Azerbaijan aviation gas, i.e. watered down. At least Male passengers can book out of the terminal and chiong the local girls. I hear they are cheap and pretty.
 

Papsmearer

Alfrescian (InfP) - Comp
Generous Asset
Yes I am certain the decision to divert to Baku was as per published guidelines. It isn't the best place to divert to especially during the winter months.

There may not be enough hotel rooms and the engineering support may not be really very good for modern civilian planes. The priority however at that point in time was to effect a safe landing.

Baku is ok. Its an oil town and there are many hotels catering to expat oil workers. Many nightclubs there too. Oil workers are flushed with money, and that attracts girls. Especially, they have the mixed Russian/Azerbaijan type girls, very pretty.
 

steffychun

Alfrescian
Loyal
SIA gives passengers a trip to Azerbajian due to lost in cabin pressure

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25618122

In response to passenger reports that it was because of a faulty door, a Singapore Airlines spokesman said that "on the earlier flight into London there was a noise reported from one of the main deck doors".

But he added that "the door was inspected by engineers on the ground in London with no findings, and the aircraft was cleared for continued operation".
 

red amoeba

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Re: SIA gives passengers a trip to Azerbajian due to lost in cabin pressure

R they welcomed by borat ?
 

red amoeba

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
The term shortly was cited by a passenger not SIA so unless we read the black box we cannot b sure the exact duration as it could be perceived differently. Usu the priority for such case is to rtn or land at nearest ava airport. Note it's a A380 meaning not all terminals have the length of runway m aero bridge to unload the passengers. Also the traffic pattern of the airport comparing having to circle 10 15 min to clear the runway which u can imagine with planes taxiing and waiting on runway u cannot just clear the runway for u in matter of few min . We know heathrow n CDG r notoriously crowded. Hence the decision to play on to Baku could b the sensible one which is a designated landing point within stipulated safety flying time fr the flight path.
 

steffychun

Alfrescian
Loyal
It is so obvious that the emergency landing charges in Western Europe were too expensive for SIA so they risked passengers' lives to land somewhere cheaper in Eastern Europe a few hours later. SIA need to be thoroughly investigated for this risky action! How can they risk passengers' lives like that? This is our national airline? Fuck!

Azerbaijan is in central Asia
 

steffychun

Alfrescian
Loyal
Baku is ok. Its an oil town and there are many hotels catering to expat oil workers. Many nightclubs there too. Oil workers are flushed with money, and that attracts girls. Especially, they have the mixed Russian/Azerbaijan type girls, very pretty.

yes like in The World is Not Enough
 

Charlie99

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Yes I am certain the decision to divert to Baku was as per published guidelines. It isn't the best place to divert to especially during the winter months.

There may not be enough hotel rooms and the engineering support may not be really very good for modern civilian planes. The priority however at that point in time was to effect a safe landing.

That is probably correct.
Other airline flying that route and facing the same challenges at a similar location may take the same steps.
 

cheesecake

Alfrescian (InfP)
Generous Asset
Or should we thank the lucky stars that SIA did not have this problem injuring 29 passengers.

Saudi Boeing 767 emergency landing without wheel (landing Gear) in Madinah airport - crash


Story

Published on Jan 5, 2014

A Saudi Arabian Airlines jet made an emergency landing in Muslim holy city Medina in the west of the kingdom on Sunday, injuring 29 people, an aviation authority spokesman said.

The Saudia aircraft was travelling from Iran's second city of Mashhad with 315 passengers on board, General Authority of Civil Aviation spokesman Khalid al-Khaybari told AFP.

Of the 29 people injured, 11 were taken to hospital, while the rest were treated at the airport's medical centre, he said.

Khaybari did not elaborate on the type of aircraft or the cause of the emergency landing.

Footage posted online showed a plane landing apparently without its rear landing gear down and leaving a trail of flame along the runway.

str-ak/kir
EXCLU Saudi Arabian Boeing landing accident at Medina plane crash médine ??????? ???????
Saudi Arabian Airlines jet makes emergency landing at holy city


A Saudi Airlines plane's forced landing caused the injury of 29 passengers in Prince Mohammad bin Abdulaziz airport in Madinah. (Photo courtesy: Sabq online)
Text size A A A
Staff writer, Al Arabiya
Sunday, 5 January 2014
A Saudi Arabian Airlines plane's forced landing caused the injury of 29 passengers in Prince Mohammad bin Abdulaziz airport in Madinah on Sunday morning, local newspaper al-Sabq reported.

The airport was closed and all domestic and international flights were cancelled due to the closure of the runaway after the plane landed without wheels because of a technical glitch.

The incident led to the mobilization of a rescue team, ambulance and fire fighters at the airport after the plane landed in the runway.
Circulated images show that the damages were at the rear end of the plane.

The aircraft was traveling from Iran's second city of Mashhad with 315 passengers on board the Boeing 767-300ER.

The official spokesman of the General Authority of Civil Aviation, Abdullah al-Khaybari, told Al Arabiya News Channel that passengers had been injured with 11 being transferred to hospital.

"29 passengers were injured, 11 were transferred to the hospital and 18 had minor injuries and were treated at the airport clinic," he said.

After the pilot told Madinah airport's air traffic control tower about the technical glitch in the rear wheels, which would have made landing the right side of the plane near impossible, authorities began to make the necessary preparations for an emergency landing, Khaybari said.




Last Update: Sunday, 5 January 2014 KSA 15:22 - GMT 12:22
TOPICS
SAUDIEMERGENCY LANDINGPLANEMADINAHINJURIES
RELATED STORIES
 

sadshishamo

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
The pilot did well to keep the aircraft on the paved surface of the runway. Lateral control with a partial gear landing is not an easy matter.



Or should we thank the lucky stars that SIA did not have this problem injuring 29 passengers.


Of the 29 people injured, 11 were taken to hospital, while the rest were treated at the airport's medical centre, he said.

Khaybari did not elaborate on the type of aircraft or the cause of the emergency landing.

Footage posted online showed a plane landing apparently without its rear landing gear down and leaving a trail of flame along the runway.

str-ak/kir
EXCLU Saudi Arabian Boeing landing accident at Medina plane crash médine المدينة المنورة
Saudi Arabian Airlines jet makes emergency landing at holy city


A Saudi Airlines plane's forced landing caused the injury of 29 passengers in Prince Mohammad bin Abdulaziz airport in Madinah. (Photo courtesy: Sabq online)
Text size A A A
Staff writer, Al Arabiya
Sunday, 5 January 2014
A Saudi Arabian Airlines plane's forced landing caused the injury of 29 passengers in Prince Mohammad bin Abdulaziz airport in Madinah on Sunday morning, local newspaper al-Sabq reported.

The airport was closed and all domestic and international flights were cancelled due to the closure of the runaway after the plane landed without wheels because of a technical glitch.

The incident led to the mobilization of a rescue team, ambulance and fire fighters at the airport after the plane landed in the runway.
Circulated images show that the damages were at the rear end of the plane.

The aircraft was traveling from Iran's second city of Mashhad with 315 passengers on board the Boeing 767-300ER.

The official spokesman of the General Authority of Civil Aviation, Abdullah al-Khaybari, told Al Arabiya News Channel that passengers had been injured with 11 being transferred to hospital.

"29 passengers were injured, 11 were transferred to the hospital and 18 had minor injuries and were treated at the airport clinic," he said.

After the pilot told Madinah airport's air traffic control tower about the technical glitch in the rear wheels, which would have made landing the right side of the plane near impossible, authorities began to make the necessary preparations for an emergency landing, Khaybari said.




Last Update: Sunday, 5 January 2014 KSA 15:22 - GMT 12:22
TOPICS
SAUDIEMERGENCY LANDINGPLANEMADINAHINJURIES
RELATED STORIES
 

johnny333

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Local engineers some of whom were factory trained in Toulouse but all certified for the aircraft type.

It takes more than just certified engineers to run things efficiently. Just look at all the problems SMRT is having.
Nowadays the Spore brand is not what it used to be.
 

AhMeng

Alfrescian (Inf- Comp)
Asset
It takes more than just certified engineers to run things efficiently. Just look at all the problems SMRT is having.
Nowadays the Spore brand is not what it used to be.

PM LEE says it is an isolated case lah :biggrin:
 

eatshitndie

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
The pilot did well to keep the aircraft on the paved surface of the runway. Lateral control with a partial gear landing is not an easy matter.

fortuitous that legendary captain sum ting wong with his motley crew of wee tu lo, ho li fook and bang din ou are not at the helm. :eek: :p
 

sadshishamo

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Yes indeed, these guys are real jinxes and Jonahs of the aviation world so too are Captains Lee Fuk Suk, Fuk Sum Wan, and Wan Tew Yew.


fortuitous that legendary captain sum ting wong with his motley crew of wee tu lo, ho li fook and bang din ou are not at the helm. :eek: :p
 

THE_CHANSTER

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Not really guys. This particular route is over extended periods of high ground. Once a depressurisation occurs there is only about 30 mins worth of oxygen for the passengers.

In the 30 minutes the aircraft must have descended to 10,000 feet altitude otherwise the effects of hypoxia would cause lots of trauma and even death to the passengers especially the sick and elderly.

Along the high terrain routes SIA and other airlines plan some 'escape routes' so that in the event of depressurisation they can descend and also safely divert to acceptable airports, BAKU in Azerbaijan being one of them.

Depending on where they were along their routing back to Singapore, Karachi and Lahore would have been options too.

From some of the reports I have been reading, the aircraft continued to fly for a further THREE HOURS before landing in Baku. As a layman in this field, this seems a bit excessive given the severity of a cabin decompression and its consequences. I wonder if structural integrity failure in one of the doors was the cause?
In addition, I think this is the first case of depressurisation on an A380 forcing an emergency landing.
One thing is for sure and that is (not for the first time) the Airbus A380 can demonstrate it can handle itself well in unexpected emergencies.

Anyway, kudos to the pilots for making a safe landing.
 

sadshishamo

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
The doors of modern jets are all 'plug type' doors meaning that the normal cabin pressurisation would act to force the doors to close tightly during flight. A structural failure of the door would be a serious depressurisation event and would invariably result in panic and chaos in the passenger cabin and usually with resultant injuries because such serious depressurisation would cause air to rush out of the airplane at such an incredible rate that anything that is not secured eg cutlery, books, bags etc become deadly projectiles.
Looking at the yahoo picture it doesnt seem to be such an event. The passengers were angry and annoyed but that was about all.

Again as to why the pilots elected to continue when there appeared to be a defect of some sort only they can answer that. There will of course be an inquiry very soon and they will have to defend their decisions.



From some of the reports I have been reading, the aircraft continued to fly for a further THREE HOURS before landing in Baku. As a layman in this field, this seems a bit excessive given the severity of a cabin decompression and its consequences. I wonder if structural integrity failure in one of the doors was the cause?
In addition, I think this is the first case of depressurisation on an A380 forcing an emergency landing.
One thing is for sure and that is (not for the first time) the Airbus A380 can demonstrate it can handle itself well in unexpected emergencies.

Anyway, kudos to the pilots for making a safe landing.
 

eErotica69

Alfrescian (InfP)
Generous Asset
Would the pilot risk passengers lives to cut cost?

Answer is NO cos he is also risking his own life. Common sense!
 
Top