Very good.. other than it being front wheel drive. The GS and IS are sportier and more powerful.... The ES shld be very comfy, but not as engaging..
No one can say it's just a "more expensive camry" anymore... the current-gen ES already is very very comfy.. the new gen ups the class factor quite abit..
the toyota camry division is no slouch either. they have up the ante and selling the camry to some cuntries and dealerships as though it's a luxury version akin to the lexus es sedan but retaining the toyota badge. eventually, the so called "quality" difference between the two will be non-existent (it's minimal now), and only the dealership ambience, reception (high ses for lexus vs. mid ses for toyota), customer experience, service, and maintenance side of the equation will remain different. you are paying a higher premium for both the badge and dealership, but the quality of both products are essentially the same.From day 1 when I started to drive the Lexus 15 years ago I never think it is a Toyota its simply different. Recently tempted to go with the Germans have to think so hard.
The krauts make fine cars the only problem is that they keep having to be fixed every few months. I hate trips to the workshop and a day or so without my car so I stick to Toyota.From day 1 when I started to drive the Lexus 15 years ago I never think it is a Toyota its simply different. Recently tempted to go with the Germans have to think so hard.
These are the sorts of problems I hate the most when it comes to Continental cars
Well said. Front wheel drive for luxury cars are like using kumho tyres on a BMW. Or putting low octane fuel in a high performance car.If it is front wheel drive I don't like it.
looks like you're not the only one having the same issue. it's a recurring issue for many audi drivers going way back to 2006 on nearly all models with mmi, including a7 and a8. so far, there are a lot of customer complaints but no specific answer from audi, and my hunch is an electrical issue with current or amperage or the lack of it being the culprit, accompanied with firmware issues and software failure. i guess it's not considered a safety issue (yet) thus audi is not doing a redesign and recall, as a temporary remedy in the form of a "hard" reset is available while car is running. for newer models with a menu button, just simultaneously press menu, center knob, and right corner button. for older models there's the setup and tel button at the left bottom corner. it's like pressing ctrl-alt-delete on windoze. the screen will go into reset mode, may retract for some older models and come back on after 69 seconds. after that while you're still driving it should work ok until the next pit stop with engine off and restart of your car. it may help if you turn off mmi during restart of engine. then turn it on after engine is running. my conjecture is that during starting of engine, mmi in "on" mode while starting engine may have some glitches when amperage is low (or requires higher current draw) as too many bells and whistles are daisy-chained to this one electronic device. a failiure of one of its many features will cause a shutdown of the whole thing. just a conjecture. audi needs to find the root cause and fix it. it's no longer a random issue. it's a repeatable issue with multiple cause and effects. on my porsche communication management module (pcm), the firmware is different from audi's, and it's running smoothly so far (no reset required with engine running).These are the sorts of problems I hate the most when it comes to Continental cars. It's the niggling issues that nobody knows how to solve and very often the dealership will deny there is an issue in the first place.
https://www.audiworld.com/forums/ne...-then-startup-again-every-80-minutes-2953839/
My car is a 3 month old A3 1.5TFSI 5 door Sportback Sport.
I've just done a 5 hour journey from Hampshire to Lancashire. At 1 hour 20 minutes into the journey the MMI shutdown and after 20 seconds or so started up again. This also happened at 2 hours 40 minutes and 4 hours.
I asked the dealer why this is happening and they THINK [ ie they don't know] it might be something to do with the "Rest recommendation" function but there is nothing in owners manual Rest recommendation section stating that the MMI will shutdown and restart.
Anyone any ideas?
the toyota camry division is no slouch either. they have up the ante and selling the camry to some cuntries and dealerships as though it's a luxury version akin to the lexus es sedan but retaining the toyota badge. eventually, the so called "quality" difference between the two will be non-existent (it's minimal now), and only the dealership ambience, reception (high ses for lexus vs. mid ses for toyota), customer experience, service, and maintenance side of the equation will remain different. you are paying a higher premium for both the badge and dealership, but the quality of both products are essentially the same.
2017/2018 camry
2018/2019 camry
2019/2020 camry
2019/2020 camry coupe or 2-door
Well said. Front wheel drive for luxury cars are like using kumho tyres on a BMW. Or putting low octane fuel in a high performance car.
Camry's are very popular in Ozland and Toyota b4 the air bag crap has always have a good reputation in replicability. But the problem is in Ozland the Toyota's are boring. The price is increasing and the car is just a redesign to look nicer. But engine etc is still the same ol same ol. So ppl rather just get older model no point pay more. Or buy those ex rentals etc. And sedans are getting less popular. SUVs n MPVs are in demand bcos it's a more practical vehicle. If only Toyota can up their game in Ozland.the toyota camry division is no slouch either. they have up the ante and selling the camry to some cuntries and dealerships as though it's a luxury version akin to the lexus es sedan but retaining the toyota badge. eventually, the so called "quality" difference between the two will be non-existent (it's minimal now), and only the dealership ambience, reception (high ses for lexus vs. mid ses for toyota), customer experience, service, and maintenance side of the equation will remain different. you are paying a higher premium for both the badge and dealership, but the quality of both products are essentially the same.
2017/2018 camry
2018/2019 camry
2019/2020 camry
2019/2020 camry coupe or 2-door
at the porsche dealership i'm served with expresso and a donut or cake too, but there're no booby babes like those in thighland. they're a bunch of grannies with an attitude like in american and united airlines. but at honda or hyundai dealership i have to take a number and wait, and lines are long even though an appointment is made. coffee is from a self-serve drip pot. no expresso machine. just industrial grade coffee from aramark - yuck!