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Sake Anyone?

Ramseth

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I was introduced to sake by my Japanese ex-girlfriend many years ago. It's really good stuff. Not conveniently available in Singapore, now it's probably available only at Meidiya, Isetan, Cold Storage Takashimaya and NTUC FairPrice Junction 8. I usually buy the tetrapak 750 m.l., the type that looks like a tall tetrapak of milk or fruit juice. I think sake's the only alcoholic drink I've ever seen packaged in tetrapak.

It can be drank chilled, warmed or at room temperature. I prefer it warmed. Without the Japanese ceremonious utensils, I'd pour some of it into a cleaned chicken essence bottle and warm it up as I'd do with chicken essence. One tetrapak of sake should make about 11 to 12 shots. I find it good to take a warm shot before going to bed.
 

Equalisation

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After take one warm shot, you proceeded for 3 real shots on the bed !!!:eek:

Tomorrow afternoon, Martel All the Way !!!:biggrin:
 

drifter

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in japan we say
酒なくて
何の己が
桜かな
Without sake
what is the use of
cherry blossoms?

I'll be the first to admit that sake is an acquired taste. This is true for most Japanese food , it simply tastes so different from what most non-Japanese are used to, especially given the way it's usually served . But like wine, it's a taste that will grow on you.Unfortunately, acquiring the taste for sake is complicated by the fact that much of the sake available in Japan, and nearly all sold outside Japan, ranges from poor to outright horrible .For example, in Finland the only brand of sake available is Gekkeikan (月桂冠), which is so vile that it is considered barely fit for for use as cooking sake in Japan. The other brand I've often seen in Europe and the US is American-brewed Ozeki (大関), the Budweiser of the sake world, which in Japan is sold in single-portion "Ozeki One Cup" portions, the primary target audience being alcoholics who can't afford to pay 1000 yen for a bottle of Everclear.

Remember that just because it says rice wine on the menu doesn't mean it's sake, there are many distilled Asian rice products ranging from shochu to mao tai out there, which are popular solely because they're a cheap way to get drunk. The myths of the potency of sake result mostly from this confusion.

I would recommend that you go for a dry (Jp. karakuchi) sake, with a nihonshudo around +6 to +10 if you can manage it. These tend to be very light, with the most resemblance to (extremely) dry white wine and with the least of the alcoholic smell and lingering aftertaste that make the Gekkeikans and Ozekis of the sake world so unpleasant.Or you could swing for the other end of the spectrum and go for a cloudy white nigorizake, which are sweet, thick and almost liquor-like. Many Japanese sake snobs disdain these, because the masses of rice floating in it mask all the exquisite nuances that they get their kicks from, but I fell in love with nigorizake the first time I tried it, before I learned to like the "normal" kind. However, their availability is somewhat poor even in Japan, it's a bit of a seasonal product best available in the spring (although any decent supermarket will have a few bottles in the fridge).


Now, the traditional way to drink sake (or so you've probably been told) is to heat it up. This way of drinking is called atsukan and, in Japan, it is reserved for two things

1.Warming you up in the winter
2.Making bad sake tolerable

If you order atsukan in the summer, you will get funny looks. If you order good sake as atsukan any time of the year, you will get very funny looks. All sake tastes the same when it is heated, and that taste is not particularly good; one particularly unpleasant aspect of heated sake (especially if too hot) is the noxious smell of ethyl alcohol rising from it, rice having little smell of its own to mask it. Yuck.
Instead, do as the Japanese do and drink your sake hiyashi, chilled. This is especially good for drier (karakuchi) kinds of sake. Those little porcelain thimble cups (o-choko) are made for slamming down like tequila shots, which is why you rarely see them in restaurants; a perfectly ordinary glass is a much better tool for slowly savouring your sake. Masu, those lovely wooden boxes, look and smell nice, but they tend to do strange things to their contents until they're worn in -- and it's difficult to drink from a cube anyway .
 

Rogue Trader

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I find sake the most easiest alcohol to drink than compared to vodka, gin, korean shojiu and chinese rice wine. The japanese distilling process must be quite amazing.

I like it chilled at jap restaurants but usually alternate it with kirin or asahi beer.The reason for that is I find drinking only sake the whole night makes me sleepy. I don't know if sake has this effect on any one else.
 

johnny333

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Remember that just because it says rice wine on the menu doesn't mean it's sake, there are many distilled Asian rice products ranging from shochu to mao tai out there, which are popular solely because they're a cheap way to get drunk. The myths of the potency of sake result mostly from this confusion.

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Talking about rice wines, does anyone know where I can get amazake rice wine? I've looked at Isetan(Shaw Centre), Cold Storage, NTUC without any luck.

I need it for a recipe :smile:
 

Ramseth

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Talking about rice wines, does anyone know where I can get amazake rice wine? I've looked at Isetan(Shaw Centre), Cold Storage, NTUC without any luck.

I need it for a recipe :smile:

The sweet one? Last time Yaohan had. Now I think you have to go to or order from Japan. :biggrin:
 

QXD

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I love sake, and it must be drunk cold no matter what season. That's the only way to appreciate the 2nd tier of flavours which is alot more delicate and exists no more than a day from a newly opened bottle.

Unfortunately Japan exports shit out of the country. I have never tasted a good sake in retail shops here, only once, from a specialist sake shop along Neil Rd, don't know if it is still there.
 

drifter

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Sake is a very good alcoholic drink. I like it warm together with sashimi/sushi

please don't drink sake together with full meal, especially anything spicy , the Japanese way is to nibble on tsumami, little snacks. Sashimi is, of course, a classic, but sushi and sake, being both made from rice, do not mix.:smile:
 

drifter

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Talking about rice wines, does anyone know where I can get amazake rice wine? I've looked at Isetan(Shaw Centre), Cold Storage, NTUC without any luck.

I need it for a recipe :smile:

maybe you can try Himuro (氷室), a slightly sweet namazake from Hida-Takayama . i dont know if singapore have it .

Kubota Suiju (久保田翠壽), the only namazake made by Kubota, one of the most famous sake producers in Japan. While I find most of Kubota's output mediocre and overpriced, Suiju remains the best sake I've ever had. Unfortunately, it costs a cool ¥5,500 a bottle in japan . :(

try Otokoyama (男山), a famous dry sake from Hokkaido. this stuff is popular and affordable, and you can often find it on restaurant menus. Not outstanding, but pretty dependable.
 

QXD

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You are very correct.

please don't drink sake together with full meal, especially anything spicy , the Japanese way is to nibble on tsumami, little snacks. Sashimi is, of course, a classic, but sushi and sake, being both made from rice, do not mix.:smile:
 

drifter

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I love sake, and it must be drunk cold no matter what season. That's the only way to appreciate the 2nd tier of flavours which is alot more delicate and exists no more than a day from a newly opened bottle.

Unfortunately Japan exports shit out of the country. I have never tasted a good sake in retail shops here, only once, from a specialist sake shop along Neil Rd, don't know if it is still there.

yes , you are right . japan dont export good sake .

Sake is bottled when it is at its best, and it will stay there for a few months, perhaps a year at most. Once opened, a bottle of sake keeps for no longer than a bottle of wine. a few days in the fridge at best. the cheaper brands, like Gekkeikan, are usually so loaded with preservatives that you can keep an open bottle in the fridge as cooking sake for half a year without noticing any significant degradation.
 

aurvandil

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It can be drank chilled, warmed or at room temperature. I prefer it warmed. Without the Japanese ceremonious utensils, I'd pour some of it into a cleaned chicken essence bottle and warm it up as I'd do with chicken essence. One tetrapak of sake should make about 11 to 12 shots. I find it good to take a warm shot before going to bed.

You no good lah .... start this type of thread on Saturday.

Made me have a craving for sake. Originally plan to go down and get a small bottle. But ... they all looked so good. So I ended up getting ... several ...

The aircon is now turned on to simulate an artic winter.

I am drinking it warmed as written by you. The wine drinker in me made me drink it at room temperature. I am beginging to understand why you drink it warmed.

High chance I am NOT going to make it to tonite's EPL matches.

Fortunately the big Man U - Liverpool match is tomorrow.

All the more must finish it all by tonite ....:biggrin:
 

johnny333

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maybe you can try Himuro (氷室), a slightly sweet namazake from Hida-Takayama . i dont know if singapore have it .

Kubota Suiju (久保田翠壽), the only namazake made by Kubota, one of the most famous sake producers in Japan. While I find most of Kubota's output mediocre and overpriced, Suiju remains the best sake I've ever had. Unfortunately, it costs a cool ¥5,500 a bottle in japan . :(

try Otokoyama (男山), a famous dry sake from Hokkaido. this stuff is popular and affordable, and you can often find it on restaurant menus. Not outstanding, but pretty dependable.


It's actually for a potatoe dish I would like to try the recipe :smile: It adds sweetness to the potatoes.
 

johnny333

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The sweet one? Last time Yaohan had. Now I think you have to go to or order from Japan. :biggrin:

I've never tasted it but its suppose to add sweetness without having to use sugar, to a potatoe recipe I would like to try. It's one of those meatless heart healthy recipes found in Dr. Ornish's book.
 

Ramseth

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U sure or not :biggrin:

Japanese women don't like low ranking policeman like u.. sergeant only.. prc whores also don't wanna be near u :biggrin:

When I met her, I ROD already. My rank is Mister. My appointment was "international relationship manager." She was only "international marketing trainee" sent to USA for training. But her company is certainly a heavyweight biggie, Casio. She gave me Casio watch and mini-piano keyboard for free. When I played 北国の春 for her, she melted and I took her to bed. :biggrin: Actually at that time, what the hell did I know about 北国の春?I was only playing 榕树下,the Chinese version of that song.
 

besotted

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mao.......tai....... the best lah!

if like me you go china regularly or have lots of PRC friends, you will endless supply of these heavenly drink

if you are really missing out on the good life by not having any PRC friends, you can still buy it at the corner shop in chinatown, or you can go to the emporium in people's park
 
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