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Rabid anti-SDP sentiment in SBF

Aspirations are for exhalted people like LKY to say. I'm just a humble peasant believing in Maynard Keynes: "In the long run, we're all dead" and therefore in the meantime, make the best of it while we're alive.

And I also don't fault you for making hay while the sun shines.

After all, we all need to feel warm and comfortable where the sun doesn't shine. :cool:
 
You truly are gullible or your memory is failing as he and his "WP Baru" was relentless until none of the WP supporters dare speak in the old SBF except for GMS and Ramseth. You had even to change your nick.

Who you think was feeding the good doctor with your private life. He was using the Chau VeNist nick until he was found out in this forum. He no longer has the support base that they previously had as this forum does not have walt howe, paid membership and no banning can take place.

I got enough PM from him to know that a leopard never changes its support. The only person who he could not undermine was me. He has no clue if I was a waiter at SCC or a dustbin. He convinced himself that I was journalist and ended up identifying a retired sub editor who had testicular cancer and did some research on his background. He then started quoting some of the chap's friends. He actually think that I am a low life working in SPH. SPH is a prostitute of this govt.

Why would you want to reciprocate in kind when the damage that he did was really nasty. Lets face it, you guys are dead scared of him. He is manipulative and knows that he cannot get his way in this forum so he changed tactics. Remember he was sucking up to Profiro until I mentioned it.



It was clear that Ptader changed attitude and I reciprocate in kind. You never hear words from him that was said the last time. Even OTC took a more decent approach and I would hesitate to go too hard on him. You on the other hand are becoming more distortive, throwing caution to the "facts" when you utter them. Unless there is a different Scroobal everytime, let me know. Despite after what happened when I see a good thing you write I endorse.
 
I think you are indeed a realist and that is your strength. You should capitalise on it. Frankly you are someone that SDP can badly use.

That I agree with you. If he was given the berth, things would turn out differently. I'm not an idolist, you know. I'm a realist as circumstances evolve.
 
I have sort of worked you out when you ran shot gun for GMS when he was firing all over the place especially when he was in argument with the chap over Catherine Lim many years ago.

I know your heart is in the right place. Your problem is that you value loyalty too much and your comprehension is less than stellar.

Whatever I said about LTK is factual. You could not rebut me. It is indeed a fact that
- he adopts a low profile when he is a public figure
- he prefers not to engage in dialogue because he is apprehensive about him language competency. There is a track record to show it.

The other points are not factual but opinions
- he made an error in not turning up for the TOC even when a frail CST did. it called respect and reciprocity
- WP and others complain about bias or lack of media coverage but LTK failed to capitalise on it. He did not even send Sylvia but Giam. If you were an adult how do you feel other who turned would have felt.

Once again, what dishonest part that I was engaged in. If you misunderstood I can understand but if any of the above are wrong, please point it out.



I called you dishonest because you distorted my words, not because I supported LTK. You have also marked "well said" to one of my criticisms on WP being too careful and having got too close for comfort to the SDP after meeting up with them in real life. Right now you can't figure out my latest criticisms on SDP and can't find anything I praised WP about, so you struggle and use sarcasm to conceal the struggle.
 
Actually bro, you will be surprised. I have never revealed anything that is classified as state secret. My arse will be in a sling double quick if that was the case. Countries have reciprocal arrangements and getting the ISP to cough up is not that hard.

The trick is make sure that info that are freely available in the corridors of power reaches the ground. Here is a case in point. Shanmugam having an affair and then having an arranged marriage in India in a flash is not classified as national secret. The country that receives the request will laugh their head off if such a request is made. By the way, the Shanmugan thread was canned and is no longer in available in SBF Someone certainly was upset. Another example is PAP related matters are not state secret. That is why I will happily throw it out if the Govt is used.

There are a number of chaps here who want to do the right thing and have been or are on the other side of fence. One has migrated to the West Coast of the US and is active in this forum.

We are all humans. There will come a time when we realise that somethings are not right and we find means to make any contribution we can.




Are you smoking pot?

If Scroobal had been working in PMO before do you think he can post for years under the same nick and not be tracked down?


Your sarcasm is getting a bit stale. Too many UFO stories?
:cool::cool::cool::D:D:D:D
 
You truly are gullible or your memory is failing as he and his "WP Baru" was relentless until none of the WP supporters dare speak in the old SBF except for GMS and Ramseth. You had even to change your nick.

Who you think was feeding the good doctor with your private life. He was using the Chau VeNist nick until he was found out in this forum. He no longer has the support base that they previously had as this forum does not have walt howe, paid membership and no banning can take place.

I got enough PM from him to know that a leopard never changes its support. The only person who he could not undermine was me. He has no clue if I was a waiter at SCC or a dustbin. He convinced himself that I was journalist and ended up identifying a retired sub editor who had testicular cancer and did some research on his background. He then started quoting some of the chap's friends. He actually think that I am a low life working in SPH. SPH is a prostitute of this govt.

Why would you want to reciprocate in kind when the damage that he did was really nasty. Lets face it, you guys are dead scared of him. He is manipulative and knows that he cannot get his way in this forum so he changed tactics. Remember he was sucking up to Profiro until I mentioned it.

My private life? People like you and him can go on guessing who I am or associate me with WP or SDP. I am just a forum nick and that's that. Or unless you imagine every who's who in politics is the puppet behind every nameless nick here.

If you said my memory fails me, you are talking about the past and that's exactly my point - the past doesn't matter. I don't know and don't care who he is either.
 
I have sort of worked you out when you ran shot gun for GMS when he was firing all over the place especially when he was in argument with the chap over Catherine Lim many years ago.

I know your heart is in the right place. Your problem is that you value loyalty too much and your comprehension is less than stellar.

Whatever I said about LTK is factual. You could not rebut me. It is indeed a fact that
- he adopts a low profile when he is a public figure
- he prefers not to engage in dialogue because he is apprehensive about him language competency. There is a track record to show it.

The other points are not factual but opinions
- he made an error in not turning up for the TOC even when a frail CST did. it called respect and reciprocity
- WP and others complain about bias or lack of media coverage but LTK failed to capitalise on it. He did not even send Sylvia but Giam. If you were an adult how do you feel other who turned would have felt.

Once again, what dishonest part that I was engaged in. If you misunderstood I can understand but if any of the above are wrong, please point it out.

If you're not dishonest, I was probably wrong about your intellect. You seem to be the hardest forummer to communicate to despite your literal eloquence. I never in my life had to repeat myself to anyone more than 4 to 5 times without finally being understood. Even one of my blur sotong admin girls requires a repeat instruction of not more than 3 times at the most.

This will be the last time. I have no issue with your criticisms of LTK and in fact agree with much of it. What I have issue with was that despite agreeing much with your criticisms of LTK except the TOC part, you called me a apologist for LTK. But now I figure you were not dishonest. You are a blur sotong who wasn't reading my post in the first place.
 
My private life? People like you and him can go on guessing who I am or associate me with WP or SDP. I am just a forum nick and that's that. Or unless you imagine every who's who in politics is the puppet behind every nameless nick here.

If you said my memory fails me, you are talking about the past and that's exactly my point - the past doesn't matter. I don't know and don't care who he is either.


People who want to hide the past are those who have skeletons there or are embarrassed for some reason.

Those with good accomplishment will want to show their past eagerly to everyone. They will never say "past doesn't matter".

Its only natural behaviour.
 
hahaha....CSJ good for all the cheap gimmicks.
He has been openly called a DUD and there was not even a whimper from him or did I miss something?
What more is there to harp about?

Pse ask him to sue to old fart, I will salute him.
Otherwise he has zero credibility as far as I am concerned.
Worst he stains the whole opposition who is now associated with a DUD as a party leader.
 
hahaha....CSJ good for all the cheap gimmicks.
He has been openly called a DUD and there was not even a whimper from him or did I miss something?
What more is there to harp about?

Pse ask him to sue to old fart, I will salute him.
Otherwise he has zero credibility as far as I am concerned.
Worst he stains the whole opposition who is now associated with a DUD as a party leader.


What a discerning little kukujiao you are :D
 
I personally think Chee has our interests at heart but his tactics of grabbing the bull by its horn is providing ample fodder for the MIWs.
 
I personally think Chee has our interests at heart but his tactics of grabbing the bull by its horn is providing ample fodder for the MIWs.

He's more interested in Burma. He's grabbing no bull by no horn. He's just flying a kite for some silly little crows thinking a kite is king of crows. He needs some crows to make noise after all.
 
I personally think Chee has our interests at heart but his tactics of grabbing the bull by its horn is providing ample fodder for the MIWs.

If Chee really has our interest at heart, he would going for what our interest reallly represent and not on matters that people can live without.
 
You truly are gullible or your memory is failing as he and his "WP Baru" was relentless until none of the WP supporters dare speak in the old SBF except for GMS and Ramseth. You had even to change your nick.

I dont get it

I dun see Ptader as scary. In fact he is just a barking dog and just like QXP, when his id come into the open, he is just another loser who make lots of noise but wiould never be able to fulfil the responsiblity.
 
He's more interested in Burma. He's grabbing no bull by no horn. He's just flying a kite for some silly little crows thinking a kite is king of crows. He needs some crows to make noise after all.

If Chee really has our interest at heart, he would going for what our interest reallly represent and not on matters that people can live without.

I agree on both of you that he should start focusing purely on bread and butter, rather than full-fledged democracy. And also, the Young Democrats should purely focus on taking care of the plight of Singaporeans and not be bothered about democracy conferences.
 
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