R.I.P. Lim Hock Siew

[kingrant]

This is indeed sad and deplorably so.

Let me tell you how badly informed this country is. If you ask 100 people which Govt was in place when the Hock Lee riots occurred. 98 of them will say PAP.

 

[Kinana]

Re: Sure Or Not ?

[video=youtube;8kqMZhwwMtI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kqMZhwwMtI&feature=related[/video]


PAP logo is worse than a commie - a fascist logo.

Thanks for the documentary. Now we know that Barisan was indeed communist. They do deserve to be locked up.

 

[maozedong]

Lim Chin Siong signed the confession and was exiled to UK.

If you had been arrested based on false trumped up charges, would you accept? If you had not been a Communist, and there was no evidence that you are, why should you admit that you were? Because if you did, you would be tightening the noose around yr neck, and LKY can then say that indeed you had been detained because you are a Communist, when that is what he couldnt prove! On principle, then, you would not admit to anything you are not, and give cause for yr enemies to do you in.

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

i c where u r coming fm bro...n no doubt u hv raised some legitimate painful issues of this dark period in s'pore's history which hv yet to be resolved one way r the other, prolly may never be resolved...

however the pt i wanted to put across, in particular to chaopappypoodle, is the apparent inference tat Dr. Lim's family was provided some sort of financial assistance fm harry during those 22 yrs of his incaceration...this is not true for reasons tat i posted abv...

now as to Dr Lim's son's employment at NUS...well i guess tat one is open to debate...just like harvard educated alleged marxist conspirator chew kheng chuan's employment at NUS; ex isa political detainee n playwright the late kuo pao kun being awarded the cultural medallion; janadas d. n to some extent philip j being cosy wif the pap establishment etc...

i read Otto Fong's insightful n pretty candid moving description of wat it is was like growing up as a child of an isa political detainee, Otto is Fong Swee Suan's son...goes wifout saying tat it was tough going n heartbreaking for the whole family...perhaps it is all relative but i dont think u can compare wat Dr Chee & his family has n is presently going thru compared to the past isa political detainees' families, especially Dr Lim...no disrespect to Dr Chee but he has his family wif him something Dr Lim n the other political detainees never had...

btw since stones r now being cast at Dr Lim...i wonder wat u chaps think abt Chia Thye Poh?...i ask becuz it is obvious tat the big difference between Chia n the rest of the political detainees is tat Chia was single when he was detained...

Maybe or maybe not.The point being does it counts?In fact it makes matter all the worst for the Chees.Imaging living in a 3rm flat with 3 kids at the glare of the public and in school.No wify in her right mind would want that.And to seek financial help from father-in-law is really rubbing salt on Chee's wounded pride.No man wants to live the life of a kept man.

The gist is LKY had interfered in ISD detainees family lives.I guess,it must be a far worse pain to bear than being behind bars.Imagine a family suddenly without the bread winner,lost financially and emotionally---because LKY detained him for their political rivalry.Than comes LKY's outfits giving handouts to such families.Some family may refuse initially but it's just a question of time before they succumb.And at midst of this is the very detainees--torn between having their families accepting 'help' from the very devil who incarnated them.But unable to persuade their families not to since they they themselves cannot feed them.

This is the trauma LKY must have had placed heavy on many people he detained without a trial.Had any of us were in that position,we would have wished for death as a relief.Damn if you do and damn if you don't kind of situation.And in between your family and children's future at stake.

Hence LKY than would have effectively shifted the focus to jailing the entire family.The detainees in jail while their families beholden to the very evil regime for their daily bread and butter.

This is something many Sinkies fail to see.

The emotions that drains the detainees to see their very family torn apart.Worse,if their very family starts believing that it's their fathers who are at faults while the LKY regime is the benevolent.

 

[apogee]

20 odd years detained and yet said nothing of significance after he was released? What did he have to hide? It's more than obvious that he didn't want to say anything. What a bloody loser! But he wasn't such a loser.

What the old man did to Tang's wife and family members should be clear to all that LHSs wife had it easy. LHS was not innocent is all his deeds. A more honest man would have told all his sins and all his glory because no man is a saint but yet this bastard pretended to his death that he was a saint!

Did it ever dawn on you that our newspaper and TV stations did not publish what he said. Even a mild statement at Tan Jing Quee's book launch did not meet the approval of the censor board.

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

tks for the advice bro...

it is quite obvious who this Kinana is in real life...

so i shall continue to post viz this pappy cadre grass roots stooge cum lawyer wannabe cum glorified security specialist cum msm 'secret squirre'l self inflated ego maniac, whenever i feel the urge to hv some fun...

This guy is a troll. If I were you, I would ignore him.

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

do u know the full background as to how LCS came abt signing tat 'confession'?...also think LCS went into self exile...

Lim Chin Siong signed the confession and was exiled to UK.

 

[Nice-Gook]

...perhaps it is all relative but i dont think u can compare wat Dr Chee & his family has n is presently going thru compared to the past isa political detainees' families, especially Dr Lim...no disrespect to Dr Chee but he has his family wif him something Dr Lim n the other political detainees never had...

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As you said,everything is relative.How to measure whose family suffered more?

But we agree that LKY's political detention wrought havoc on the detainees family,friends,relatives , kidths and kins too.This is the price LKY exerted from his political dissenters.

Hence my point is,it's easy of us as the keyboard warriors to seek blood for blood.But spare a thought for our political detainees whose whole family traumatized.

 

[kingrant]

Bro, you need extra tutorials in history. I wont spoon-feed you, so you need to go find out the facts yrself.

Lim Chin Siong signed the confession and was exiled to UK.

 

[Kinana]

Whatever it is Lim wasted his life. It's all over. Both lcs n lhs are dead.

 

[maozedong]

There were reports that he became depressed and suicidal, but nobody really knows what happened. Fact of the matter is he was released, and he then left for UK (willingly or otherwise). There is a possibility that the gov released him because it didn't want to risk him dying in detention and becoming a martyr.

do u know the full background as to how LCS came abt signing tat 'confession'?...also think LCS went into self exile...

 

[maozedong]

You need to come out from your frog's well and see for yourself what REAL democracy is like in the REAL world. It's all about MONEY. Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Bilderberg, etc. ... they are the ones in control of the democratic process in of the so-called Free world.

Bro, you need extra tutorials in history. I wont spoon-feed you, so you need to go find out the facts yrself.

 

[deepblue0911]

It's all about MONEY. Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Bilderberg, etc. ... they are the ones in control of the democratic process in of the so-called Free world.

Agree. The ones with money are always the ones who control, almost always behind the scene, very discreet and low-profile. The few names you mentioned are exactly the real power holders.

The only thing that makes the world go round, unfortunately, is money.

 

[Kinana]

No, the ones with the most votes will have the power in democracy.

 

[Huat-Ah]

Whatever it is Lim wasted his life.

Kinana
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So who got NO Life

Poor boy Kinana hanging around Sammyboy the whole day while keep himself lock himself his room

 

[scroobal]

He did not sign any confession. He only agreed to give up armed struggle and he was not exiled. In 1981, he decided to give a full account or at least his version as other players began to do so and it was right to protect his interest. His however is sealed and will not see daylight. Its sits with those from Eu, Sharma etc.

Lim Chin Siong signed the confession and was exiled to UK.

 

[Kinana]

He did not sign any confession. He only agreed to give up armed struggle and he was not exiled. In 1981, he decided to give a full account or at least his version as other players began to do so and it was right to protect his interest. His however is sealed and will not see daylight. Its sits with those from Eu, Sharma etc.

So where is his full account?

 

[Kinana]

He did not sign any confession. He only agreed to give up armed struggle and he was not exiled. In 1981, he decided to give a full account or at least his version as other players began to do so and it was right to protect his interest. His however is sealed and will not see daylight. Its sits with those from Eu, Sharma etc.

So where is his full account?

sorry double post,

 

[kukubird58]

hahaha....singapore history lesson #1:

singapore was already an independent country in 1963.......not 1965.....all the history books need to be rewritten.

 

[Kinana]

Actually Singapore was already independent when Sang Nila Utama founded Singapore.