PRs should pay more COE for cars

[peppertail]

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that an increase in population fuelled by foreigners would increase the prices of houses and cars, the statistics for the increase in the number of foreigners here have been posted ad nauseam, don't ask for stupid facts.

You expect a government that wants to increase foreigner population by more than a million to publish data that hurt their policy? This isn't a democracy, if you are not aware of it. You only get statistics that the government wants to you see.

It is not perception ....it is correlation. Property prices didn't just go up out of the blue. Rental rates for properties didn't just go up because sinkees decided that they choose to rent. Population of cars in sinkapore rose with the influx of foreigners. Only a fool will ignore the conclusions from the correlation.

Come on, stop wiggling like worms. How much is it? 1%, 5%, 15%, 30%, 50%, 75%?? It makes a big difference.

 

[winnipegjets]

You need to think a bit more long term.

In the long term, we will all be dead.

 

[peppertail]

In the long term, we will all be dead.

There is your problem. You are simply to selfish.

Think beyond YOU!

 

[xebay11]

Come on, stop wiggling like worms. How much is it? 1%, 5%, 15%, 30%, 50%, 75%?? It makes a big difference.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Singapore

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Singapore

 

[xebay11]

There is your problem. You are simply to selfish.

Think beyond YOU!

And you think about other Singaporeans by attacking my proposition?

 

[bryanlim1972]

I think a better way is for each family to be entitled to one free COE per lifetime on the following conditions
1. husband must be citizen and have completed full time NS
2. have at least one child.
3. wife is to be 50% joint owner of vehicle (female quota taken care of)
4. husband or wife posses valid driving license
5 meet certain financial prudence criteria (eg income, loan servicing ratios)to ensure no abuse.

Above esp no 2 will also assist in our population replacement and make sure the car is for family use (drive kids to nursery/schools ect2).

next thing you know, we'll be demanding for communist rule
giving out free COEs will not work, there are more than 1 million households in sgp, prob 80% will qualify by your criteria, that puts more cars on the roads than there are now.

 

[oli9]

My point was never xenophobic, they are welcome to be Singapore citizens any day to enjoy the benefits.

What benefits? On the contrary, the main drivers of ever rising COE are not only the Msians PR. They are the brits, scandi, indons PRs! On top of that, ass the local businessmen who likes to hoard 5 cars at their home!!!!

 

[Leongsam]

What benefits? On the contrary, the main drivers of ever rising COE are not only the Msians PR. They are the brits, scandi, indons PRs! On top of that, ass the local businessmen who likes to hoard 5 cars at their home!!!!

If foreigners and PRs are treated badly, they'll simply head to some other country where they are more welcome and that will be the end of Singapore.

Without foreigners, there's no way the locals will be able to keep the economy humming along. They don't have the work ethic, the drive and the determination.

 

[oli9]

Without foreigners, there's no way the locals will be able to keep the economy humming along. They don't have the work ethic, the drive and the determination.

According to whom?
Our cabinet ministers are all sporeans what. Got foreigners meh? Still running the incorporation pretty well, no?

 

[winnipegjets]

Come on, stop wiggling like worms. How much is it? 1%, 5%, 15%, 30%, 50%, 75%?? It makes a big difference.

Born-in sinkapore population = ???? Ask the Department of Statistics, they won't give it to you.
We know that sinkee population (that includes 'naturalized' sinkee) = approx. 3 million. Foreign population (including PR) = 2.3 million.
You tell me that the latter has insignificant impact on housing and cost of car here?

 

[Leongsam]

According to whom?
Our cabinet ministers are all sporeans what. Got foreigners meh? Still running the incorporation pretty well, no?

Yes but the cabinet requires only a handful of sinkies. As it is there are some who are bit lacking. There simply aren't enough talented sinkies to run the whole show.

 

[winnipegjets]

If foreigners and PRs are treated badly, they'll simply head to some other country where they are more welcome and that will be the end of Singapore.

Who wants the foreigners here? Lots of them use sinkapore as a stepping stone ...this is NEVER their final destination. They are making hay here while the sun is shining.
These foreigners are here because sinkapore is the easiest place on this earth to get PR or to work. No other countries have such lax control of foreigners, not even HK, the bastion of free market.

Without foreigners, there's no way the locals will be able to keep the economy humming along. They don't have the work ethic, the drive and the determination.

Without foreigners, life in sinkapore would have been much better. We would have been living first world standard of living. The flooding of foreigners has reduce standard of living to second world and descending to third world.

 

[winnipegjets]

Yes but the cabinet requires only a handful of sinkies. As it is there are some who are bit lacking. There simply aren't enough talented sinkies to run the whole show.

There are sufficient talent, it is just that they are not with the PAP.

 

[Leongsam]

Who wants the foreigners here? Lots of them use sinkapore as a stepping stone ...this is NEVER their final destination. They are making hay here while the sun is shining.
These foreigners are here because sinkapore is the easiest place on this earth to get PR or to work. No other countries have such lax control of foreigners, not even HK, the bastion of free market.


Without foreigners, life in sinkapore would have been much better. We would have been living first world standard of living. The flooding of foreigners has reduce standard of living to second world and descending to third world.

85% of sinkies have foreign roots so what makes the current bunch of foreigners any worse than the original bunch who were of peasant stock from South China and India.

At least the current lot have a far better pedigree.

 

[vincenttan]

My point was never xenophobic, they are welcome to be Singapore citizens any day to enjoy the benefits.

Many rich PRs are holding on to their maternal country so as to return when things turn bad here. They are enjoying the best of both worlds so we must force them to feel the pain of remaining as a PR!

 

[Leongsam]

Many rich PRs are holding on to their maternal country so as to return when things turn bad here. They are enjoying the best of both worlds so we must force them to feel the pain of remaining as a PR!

There's nothing stopping Singaporeans from enjoying the best of two worlds. All it takes is a bit of effort which proves my point that the majority are simply lazy and unmotivated and can't be bothered to improve their lives.

 

[winnipegjets]

There is your problem. You are simply to selfish.

Think beyond YOU!

Isn't free enterprise all about being selfish? You either subscribed to free enterprise or you are a communist?
The long term is an overuse excuse being used by the PAP. I am sickened by that phrase. We toil and serve the country - giving 30 months of our precious life to the country - and then we get shafted by the PAP with its open door policy to every Kumars, Zhongs, Lis, Tom, Dick and Harry which made our life more stressful and diminished our ability to earn a good wage in OUR country. How has this 'foreign raping of our country' benefit us? NOT at ALL. So much of our consumption capacity is being sucked out of the country through remittance by these foreigners. In desperation, the government has to open up casinos to get more foreigners to come. And casinos bring along its own set of problems.

We had enough of the long term plan offered by the PAP.

 

[winnipegjets]

There's nothing stopping Singaporeans from enjoying the best of two worlds. All it takes is a bit of effort which proves my point that the majority are simply lazy and unmotivated and can't be bothered to improve their lives.

Come of it ...if everyone is that bloody smart, then there won't be paupers in the world. Just because a person is not smart enough, it does not mean he has no right to a decent life!

 

[Leongsam]

There are sufficient talent, it is just that they are not with the PAP.

They must be hiding really well because they're pretty much invisible. They aren't with any other political party, they don't have their own companies and they certainly have not done anything of significance.

 

[winnipegjets]

They must be hiding really well because they're pretty much invisible. They aren't with any other political party, they don't have their own companies and they certainly have not done anything of significance.

Those you see are the sycophants ...they succeed because they suck up to the political master, not because of ability.