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Philippine warship in standoff with China vessels

Ramseth

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The Filipino Navy is the worst in SEA.

Pinoy surrendered to Spain, then to USA, then to Japan, then rescued back to civilisation by USA. They're worse at warring and battling than India, Indonesia and Malaysia combined. PRC should just invade them and ask what the fuck USA is going to do about it. Want some free fish import?
 

Kinana

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China is no better. Kena surendered to Mongols, Manchus, British, Germans, Japs etc.
If not for the Americans kena run over. It took the marines to take care of business and wipe Japan for them.
In their latest war kena mauled by little Vietnam militia.
 

Kinana

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Simply presenting reality. What do you expect from those ah tiongs? They have a long history of military defeats. All their weapons are copied.
They can't even take care of little Vietnam militia wearing sandals, sun hat helmets and carrying AK and some punji sticks. I think their ships and planes will just break down before take off.
 

Ramseth

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The China-Vietnam War was actually a joke. Vietnam couldn't have beaten off US without China support and supply (but to be fair, from USSR too). The whole affair got blown over to Cambodia and Vietnam got too ambitious and started talking tough with China after a historically glorious victory over US. The China-Vietnam border tensed up and by that time, USSR didn't gave a damn if these two historic brothers wanted to fight among themselves or kill themselves since China had turned face with USSR. Then Vietnam talked louder and China invaded, all the way to the gates of Hanoi within two weeks, something US couldn't do in ten years. Vietnam sued for peace, China accepted and retreated. Basically, the terms were something like brothers among brothers, some quarrels, let's forget it. Today, one from either side can still cross China-Vietnam checkpoints without visas, even without passports. Those seeking visas and passports stamping are runroad foreigners on visa runs.
 
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Conqueror

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Can Just Take Mah

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The China-Vietnam War was actually a joke. Vietnam couldn't have beaten off US without China support and supply (but to be fair, from USSR too).

Vietnam sued for peace, China accepted and retreated.


China just take mah. Why so nice to them. It used to be a part of China in the past. Maybe it was considered as a burden when they were running low on fund and manpower to police the place permanently.

North Vietnam is actually Vietnam which is different from the south which was previously called Champa.


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The Philistine

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Simply presenting reality. What do you expect from those ah tiongs? They have a long history of military defeats. All their weapons are copied.
They can't even take care of little Vietnam militia wearing sandals, sun hat helmets and carrying AK and some punji sticks. I think their ships and planes will just break down before take off.

Your statement "All their weapons are copied." is wrong. The Chinese developed crossbows and used explosives in a variety of ways in warfare long before all of/most other cultures did. The Chinese only lost wars at points when their dynasties were their weakest or when it had no strong leadership. How many wars have outsiders won against China when it was ruled with a firm hand?

The Chinese should just sink the Pinoy ship. The Pinoys are shite warriors. If they cannot even handle one MILF, how are they going to take on a huge military like China's? The US would not dare to do anything. They have got enough crap (Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, North Korea, and domestic problems) on their plate already. They would not want to stretch themselves beyond their limits.
 

wuqi256

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Your statement "All their weapons are copied." is wrong. The Chinese developed crossbows and used explosives in a variety of ways in warfare long before all of/most other cultures did. The Chinese only lost wars at points when their dynasties were their weakest or when it had no strong leadership. How many wars have outsiders won against China when it was ruled with a firm hand?

The Chinese should just sink the Pinoy ship. The Pinoys are shite warriors. If they cannot even handle one MILF, how are they going to take on a huge military like China's? The US would not dare to do anything. They have got enough crap (Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, North Korea, and domestic problems) on their plate already. They would not want to stretch themselves beyond their limits.


Agree, crossbow with STANDARDIZED bronze triggers were already discovered in Qin dynasty tombs. Zhuge nu (repeating crossbow) was used much later and even tested on Mythbusters. Not only incendiary/flaming spears (fire lance) but even then ancient missiles and multiple rocket launchers were already invented by them.

More information:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO6I5OZpRDI

http://youtu.be/0d_-zXn3v0E

More information:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_Huo_Qiang

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repeating_crossbow

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_archery
 

Nice-Gook

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Philippines deploys second ship in China standoff
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/1194662/1/.html

MANILA: The Philippines deployed a second vessel to tiny islands in the South China Sea on Thursday in a bid to assert its sovereignty in a territorial standoff with China.

Authorities said a coast guard boat would join the Philippines' biggest warship in the morning at Scarborough Shoal, where two Chinese surveillance vessels were protecting a group of Chinese fishermen from being arrested.

"It will be backing us up in the area," Navy commander Vice-Admiral Alexander Pama said of the 56-metre-long search and rescue coast guard vessel.


[h=2]PH to confiscate marine life from Chinese fishers[/h]
[h=1]Philippines, China work on compromise to resolve naval standoff in disputed South China sea[/h]http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/philippines-china-work-on-compromise-to-resolve-naval-standoff-in-disputed-south-china-sea/2012/04/11/gIQA6CMjBT_story.html

MANILA, Philippines — Philippine and Chinese diplomats scrambled Thursday to find a possible compromise to end a tense naval standoff in the disputed South China Sea that could save face for both sides and ease tensions. Philippine officials proposed an arrangement to break the impasse at the Scarborough Shoal off the northwestern Philippines, where a Philippine warship tried to detain Chinese fishing boats but was stopped by two Chinese surveillance craft. The standoff entered a third day Thursday.
 

Kinana

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The Philiipines must not compromise when it comes to defending their territorial waters. Never let those ah tiongs steals fishes from your waters. If you let one boat come in, more boats will follow.
 
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