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Ozzie University World Ranking Very Low.

wrcboi

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i agree that oz uni are very low in ranking but its still recognise by commonwealth countries unlike sg unis.....
 

Aussie Prick

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Very Interesting. in the 100-200 Rankings I see more Canadian rankings than Australian as well. Well that settles it, Australia is truly known for bad tertiary.
 

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Very Interesting. in the 100-200 Rankings I see more Canadian rankings than Australian as well. Well that settles it, Australia is truly known for bad tertiary.

Australain education system has gone beyond paperworks, they loved to act, dance and sing. For a country who cannot compete in manufacturing there is no need to educate their people to count. Just keep acting, dancing and singing (ADS) will do. What they are good at ADS could land them in Hollywood and become famous. Naber see so many hollywoods stars are Australians like Rascal Crowe?
 

wrcboi

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Australain education system has gone beyond paperworks, they loved to act, dance and sing. For a country who cannot compete in manufacturing there is no need to educate their people to count. Just keep acting, dancing and singing (ADS) will do. What they are good at ADS could land them in Hollywood and become famous. Naber see so many hollywoods stars are Australians like Rascal Crowe?

haha i agree.....
 

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Thanks for the info. Only 3 Oz uni made it to top 100. :cool:

Singapore got how many uni inside top 100? :rolleyes:

Strange, US & America got so many top universities, but none can save their own countries from economic bankruptcy and the Great Recession.

How many of these universities predicted the Global Financial Tsunami?


The crash reaches the universities. The global financial crisis threatens private and public university funding in the USA and Europe
Howard Wolinsky
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2658555/
 
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redbull313

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. Naber see so many hollywoods stars are Australians like Rascal Crowe?

You forgot about Mel Gibson. He is now a joke over here over the Jew and Oksana issue and he just crashed his Maserati too. I think he should go back to Australia but for some reason all the Australians just love it here.
 

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hahaha i can attest to the substandard quality of Aussie unis! First hand experience in 2 of the unis there!

Well at least in terms of infrastructure, the aussie unis are really really lacking in that department. What have they been doing with the endowment money!? Use the money to stock up beers and for bbq session or what!?

Also, if you are doing undergrad it does not make sense to pay so much more to come to Australia. U learn the same shit and same amount of contact hours with lecturers. In the end, getting the degree or not depends mostly on ur own self-study effort. Studying in Australia is seriously over-rated and not worth the money spent!:oIo:
 

fishbuff

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in that case, how can all those aussies with ozzie degrees go to sg and become FTs, especially managerial and consulting role?
 

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in that case, how can all those aussies with ozzie degrees go to sg and become FTs, especially managerial and consulting role?

Don't forget a lot of the MIWs have Aussie degree rather then local degrees. MBT comes to mind, think he is from UNSW.
 

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Ermm.. How many of your "elite grads" have 2mil house ? and have a 1mil chicken business ?

I shall rest my case..

hahaha i can attest to the substandard quality of Aussie unis! First hand experience in 2 of the unis there!

Well at least in terms of infrastructure, the aussie unis are really really lacking in that department. What have they been doing with the endowment money!? Use the money to stock up beers and for bbq session or what!?

Also, if you are doing undergrad it does not make sense to pay so much more to come to Australia. U learn the same shit and same amount of contact hours with lecturers. In the end, getting the degree or not depends mostly on ur own self-study effort. Studying in Australia is seriously over-rated and not worth the money spent!:oIo:
 

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http://www.arwu.org/ARWU2010.jsp

Nabei avoid Oz uni damm terrible. No standard one. Top 100 only 3 uni inside USA having 58 university in top 100.

Oz education = 3rd class

ranking is subjective. This ranking is developed by shanghai jiao tong university, and is primarily focusing on research output and nobel prize, not in terms of teaching quality or success rate of graduates.

In this regard, no country would be able to compete with America's strength on research and innovation, and they have huge endowment and not dependent on public funding!

if you look at another ranking compiled by uk TIMES, there's 8 Aussie unis make it to the top.100, and ANU is ranked as high as 16. In this instance, the ranking is geer towards academic reputation and not research.

So all in all, my unbias opinion.

in terms of Graduate school, you are better off to America and any of the top.50 schools will give you a good headstart anywhere in the world in terms of internationl recognition. America is very strong in this area, low staff to student ratio , facilities are superb, ground breaking research, and you are competing with the best students in the world. bottomline is no other country has even come close to the research output of America, not even uk. china is trying to recreate this model in their own uni to be the next Ivy league of the east but it would take many many years, or even centuries to come close to america's acheivement.

If you can't go to America, only go for the more prestigous old school uni in aussie - ANU, sydney Uni, Melbourne Uni are top choices then the rest of the Go8 unis aka unsw, uwa, Uq, monash, adelaide uni are 2nd choices. forget abt the rest of the unis unless its a very specialised field which they are good at.

In terms of undegraduate degrees, Aussie unis are pretty solid competing with the rest of the world, just avoid some the cash-trapped unis someone mentioned in this forum. there's notable graduates from aussie unis in the world (usually graduate from the Go8 unis) doing really good stuff both in the private and public sectors. many of them got rhodes scholarship to top us /oxbridge unis for postgraduate education. aussie graduates are also in high demand in Europe/us judging by the number of graduates working in those continents. i can't say they are the best but at least its better than Spore graduates by a large mile.

lastly, there's 2 school of thoughts.

- if you are a local born or breed (from high school onwards), the quality of Aussie graduates are usually pretty solid and snapped up for oversea posting. of course they speak fluent english and are usually very confident presenting themselves to the world

- if u are a international student, then you'll be judged differently. especially those from china whose english are not their 1st language will find them struggling to be acceptable to offer professional jobs. ( this is the same in US) if you are from Spore unless you got stellar results from the top sandstone unis else again you'll judged being a 2nd-rated graduates from those admitted to the top unis in Us/uk or to some extend, the local unis.

overall, i tend to agree there's too many aussie international students with slack entrance requirements thus degrading the quality and reputation, thus, is not worth a lot nowadays with the higher exchange rate and escalated tuiton fees. however, having said that, how many international students are capable to be admitted to the top.20 unis in US? they are highly competitive so only the best can get in. then, they have no choice but to look for alternative unis in Oz, uk or canada; certainly they won't come to Singapore to further deteriote their english language skills, and be trained by lecturers whose mostly speak singlish, surrounded by mostly asian students unless their ultimate aim are to settle permanently in spore. also, nus/or ntu has never produced any nobel prize winners. at least, there are 10 nobel prize winners in aussie unis .
 
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IWC2006

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http://edvantage.com.sg/edvantage/c...not_within_top_100_of_university_ranking.html

NUS and NTU not within top 100 world universities


Edvantage | Thu Aug 26 2010
The ranking published by the Shanghai Jiao Tong University placed NUS at 145th, while NTU did not make the top 300.
The National University of Singapore (NUS) and Nanyang Technological University (NTU) failed to make the top 100 on a ranking of the top universities in the world.

Shin Min Daily reported that the ranking published by the Shanghai Jiao Tong University placed Harvard first and NUS at 145th, while NTU did not even make it to the top 300.

In Asia Pacific, Japan's University of Tokyo and Kyoto University were top of the list, and NUS was placed outside the top 10. NTU was ranked between 44th and 68th.

The Academic Ranking of World Universities was conducted by the Center for World-Class Universities and the Institute of Higher Education of Shanghai Jiao Tong University, China.

It uses six indicators, including the number of alumni and staff winning Nobel Prizes and Fields Medals, number of highly cited researchers, the number of articles published in journals Science and Nature, the number of articles indexed in Science Citation Index, and per capita performance with respect to the size of an institution.

NUS told Shin Min that this particular ranking placed greater emphasis on science research, and on awards like the Nobel Prize and Fields Medals. They said that considering the criteria of the ranking, NUS still managed to clinch a respectable place among the universities of the Asia-Pacific region.

Their spokesperson also pointed out that NUS was ranked 23rd in the "Engineering/Technology and Computer Sciences" sub-ranking - fields of study which did not award Nobel Prizes.

NTU's Chief Planning Officer and Registrar Mr Chan Kwong Lok said that the ranking favoured universities with a long history as they included achievements and awards from the institution's inception.
 

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British universities do better in employer review and international students. The latter is also a strong point for Singapore universities. NUS and NTU are both in the top 20 for international students and international faculty. But, when it comes to employer review, NUS is 38th and NTU 91st. Here are all the three lists with overall rankings in brackets.

Rank Employer review International faculty International students
1 Cambridge, UK
2 Oxford, UK
3 Harvard, USA
4 London School of Economics , uk
5 Imperial College London,
6 University of Melbourne, Australia
7 University of Warwick, UK
8 University of Manchester, UK
9 Stanford, USA
10 MIT, USA
11 Berkeley, USA (39)
12 University College London, UK
13 Monash, Australia
14 Edinburgh, UK
17 Yale, USA
18 University of New South Wales, Australia
19 Michigan, USA
20 University of Nottingham, UK

http://www.pressrun.net/weblog/2010/07/world-university-rankings-and-their-differences.html

Again, NUS/NTU didn't fare well by employers, 3 Aussie unis are in top.20
 

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Don't forget a lot of the MIWs have Aussie degree rather then local degrees. MBT comes to mind, think he is from UNSW.


That was a time of the colombo plan scholarship. Those ministars were pretty much limited to those Aussie unis if they take up that scholarship
 
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