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HSR and RTS Discussion

AHGS14

Alfrescian
Old Timer
On the RTS, I personally think it won’t be shelved, although it may be delayed due to further reviews. If there’s no finance issue, this project is more politically beneficial to the govt of the day. Unlike the HSR which is more perhaps a ‘luxury project’ with glam appeal for business and leisure travel; the ordinary people don’t really see it as a necessity. The RTS on the other hand serves the many thousands of ordinary working-class Malaysians commuting daily to Singapore to eke out a living.
Wearing the Black Hat, if the new PH govt can get their act together, the many M'sia workers travelling to work in Sg daily now may dwindle back to the good(?) old days where traffic jams of recent years experienced during the Najib years would pass. If and a big if when that happens, RTS will be a loss making business.
 

winners

Alfrescian
Old Timer
The RTS is actually a non-event as far as Putrajaya is concerned. There were very little discussion at federal level on this project so far. Putrajaya had already announced that all mega projects will held back and be thoroughly studied so this RTS most likely will also be scrapped officially soon.
Moreover, this project benefits only the Johor state so it don't make sense for the whole federation of states to help finance it. However, if Johor is able to finance it herself without Putrajaya's financial contribution, the RTS may materialized though chance is extremely slim. So in the end it's just another talk only no action project that made many not too smart people very happy and hopeful for the last few years.
I fully concur especially when Mahathir has always been against any co-operation with Singapore (be they good or bad) since the PAP has always been an irritable eyesore and vengeance for him. He's still living in those period when Singapore belongs to Malaysia and Malaysia is supposed to be like an "elder brother" to Singapore and hence must be fully obedient to Malaysia. Furthermore, the Johor Sultan has always been not on good terms with Mahathir, so why should he approve a large project like this which will mainly benefit the Johor state only?
 

congo9

Alfrescian
Old Timer
HSR project is back again. But it will be delayed. That's what Mahathir said.

But if it is costly now, then it will be much more costly later on. So read between lines.
 

snowbird

Alfrescian
Old Timer
MY is now playing hard to get, especially with Dr M in charge, threatening to walk away from the project anytime.
Their reasoning is made plain - we don't really need this project now and we don't have the money.
I would think MY will make SG / China pay more for the project.
Or they may even let SG / China finance and construct the whole project while they just provide the land for the rail and stations.
Just wait and see how it turns out.
 

congo9

Alfrescian
Old Timer
MY is now playing hard to get, especially with Dr M in charge, threatening to walk away from the project anytime.
Their reasoning is made plain - we don't really need this project now and we don't have the money.
I would think MY will make SG / China pay more for the project.
Or they may even let SG / China finance and construct the whole project while they just provide the land for the rail and stations.
Just wait and see how it turns out.
Also can do.
Just get Singapore government to pay more and China government to fund more with no pay back time for this project. If Malaysia Default, you can send in your troops to get the money. We will provide the land and China wishes to conquer SEA with your Belt and Road plan, be prepared to cough out much more and don't get Malaysia into trouble.

If not, we will not proceed with the project. Fair and square.
 
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