hey leetahbar

[leetahbar]

Leetahbar, i think the TS asked a question that can bring healing, only if you answer it honestly - which aspect of CSJ's message you are against.

From what you are saying - CSJ is pulling wool over singaporeans' eyes.

Is that what you are saying in using all the above as evidence?

If so, can what you said be applied to the lives, statements and actions of the other opposition leaders? Or will they have other aspects that create subterfuge in the eyes of the critical?

please don't over rate chee's prowess. his intention is to attract the foreign media to embarrass and write bad about singapore. it's their eyes he's pooling the wool over.

if it's the peasants, well, we might not be safe to walk the streets openly. they should be massive riots just like thailand, taiwan or best - turn the whole singapore into a mini burmese junta state.

luckily, NONE OF THIS ever happened. it's always chee and his same motley gang of goondus clowning around.

 

[char_jig_kar]

typical of u bob. doing all kind of dance, throwing all kind of smokes, and yet, u cant give an example, which one of CSJ ideology, or criticism on PAP govt which u disagree. U CANT GIVE ME EVEN ONE EXAMPLE. *slap forehead...*

could u be specific? just show us one idea which u disagree with Chee.

 

[guavatree]

please don't over rate chee's prowess. his intention is to attract the foreign media to embarrass and write bad about singapore. it's their eyes he's pooling the wool over.

fucking retard old fart faggot fake monk PAP dog Bob Sim Kheng Hwee,

temple thief, swindler, fraudster, cheat, con-artist, liar, deceiver, all rolled into one!

sinkapoor is not PAP!

PAP is not sinkapoor!

 

[leetahbar]

at the present state of economic downturn and maybe prolonged recession which is worldwide phenomena, chee has cunningly exploited the situation to shift the entire blame to the "mismanagement of paps gov".

now for all those who are not blind, please check neighbouring countries and see if they are anywhere better than singapore.

singaporeans should be thankful and not complacent about our peace, stability and prosperity. if we were conned by those sdp clowns and fall into their insiduous plan to distrust our very own gov, do u think we will survive better?

u just need to interpoilate and imagine that chee rules over us....can u imagine what's singapore going to become? heaven forbids! it would be surely back to the stone age.

chee himself is a tyrant in making. a very stubborn one who thinks all his wrongs are rights while all the rights are wrong. those goondus, his ardent fans and followers have benefitted from our prudent gov one way or another but choose to believe chee - a guy with a big mouth that's all and doing nothing good or constructive in nation building.

he is here to settle his personal score. he is not here to fuck care about whether there is a tomorrow for you or me. once he settle that resentment and vengeance, he could jolly well bring his entire family to taiwan.

if there is one example of traitor who needs a representation, chee should win hands down!

 

[leetahbar]

typical of u bob. doing all kind of dance, throwing all kind of smokes, and yet, u cant give an example, which one of CSJ ideology, or criticism on PAP govt which u disagree. U CANT GIVE ME EVEN ONE EXAMPLE. *slap forehead...*

could u be specific? just show us one idea which u disagree with Chee.

well, why don't u give your example. yoursdp site should be more creditable than another other media according to sdppies. it accepts cheers now and no jeers. to you, their supports are improving. definitely! of course!! it's their propaganda site. who so stupid to tell a real story - unbiased?

take a straw poll from the peasants. does chee afraid that the REAL TRUTH will rear its ugly head to him and disperse his self-glorification illusion. he can take the TRUTH, i presume.

 

[char_jig_kar]

at the present state of economic downturn and maybe prolonged recession which is worldwide phenomena, chee has cunningly exploited the situation to shift the entire blame to the "mismanagement of paps gov".

now for all those who are not blind, please check neighbouring countries and see if they are anywhere better than singapore.

singaporeans should be thankful and not complacent about our peace, stability and prosperity. if we were conned by those sdp clowns and fall into their insiduous plan to distrust our very own gov, do u think we will survive better?

u just need to interpoilate and imagine that chee rules over us....can u imagine what's singapore going to become? heaven forbids! it would be surely back to the stone age.

chee himself is a tyrant in making. a very stubborn one who thinks all his wrongs are rights while all the rights are wrong. those goondus, his ardent fans and followers have benefitted from our prudent gov one way or another but choose to believe chee - a guy with a big mouth that's all and doing nothing good or constructive in nation building.

he is here to settle his personal score. he is not here to fuck care about whether there is a tomorrow for you or me. once he settle that resentment and vengeance, he could jolly well bring his entire family to taiwan.

if there is one example of traitor who needs a representation, chee should win hands down!

is it so difficult for u to cut and paste the link to the article??? which article are u referring to??

 

[Perspective]

typical of u bob. doing all kind of dance, throwing all kind of smokes, and yet, u cant give an example, which one of CSJ ideology, or criticism on PAP govt which u disagree. U CANT GIVE ME EVEN ONE EXAMPLE. *slap forehead...*

could u be specific? just show us one idea which u disagree with Chee.

I may be wrong but I understand Mr Lee here was once close to the SDP or some of its affiliates and knew them personally, hence he could be referring to their actions rather than ideas.

I may not agree with him but I think going by what you wrote, no one should be criticising the PAP at all.

 

[char_jig_kar]

well, why don't u give your example. yoursdp site should be more creditable than another other media according to sdppies. it accepts cheers now and no jeers. to you, their supports are improving. definitely! of course!! it's their propaganda site. who so stupid to tell a real story - unbiased?

take a straw poll from the peasants. does chee afraid that the REAL TRUTH will rear its ugly head to him and disperse his self-glorification illusion. he can take the TRUTH, i presume.

u are the one that keep on personal attack on Chee. so please tell. which part of his ideology, which essay, which part of his essay u have a problem with him?

could u be specific?

 

[char_jig_kar]

I may be wrong but I understand Mr Lee here was once close to the SDP or some of its affiliates and knew them personally, hence he could be referring to their actions rather than ideas.

not when he tried to reduce all of Chee's work down to nothing.

I may not agree with him but I think going by what you wrote, no one should be criticising the PAP at all.

why's that?

 

[Perspective]

not when he tried to reduce all of Chee's work down to just some kind of personal feud with Lee Kuan Yew.

Perhaps he's estranged. People in that category often behave that way.

If I recall correctly, someone in the old forum harassed the WP like no one's business, then it was revealed that he was behind a few nicks and was sacked from the WP before. Like this guy, I do think Mr Lee is overdoing it though.

why's that?

As written above. The way many (not all) people criticise the PAP is no different from how this man criticises the SDP. Even the looks of LKY's family females are often not spared.

 

[char_jig_kar]

Perhaps he's estranged. People in that category often behave that way.

If I recall correctly, someone in the old forum harassed the WP like no one's business, then it was revealed that he was behind a few nicks and was sacked from the WP before. Like this guy, I do think Mr Lee is overdoing it though.

And we could trace all our problem back to childhood toilet training according to Freud.

No seriously, we should be responsible of our action. And if my memory doesn't fail me, Bob Sim is a PAP apologist before he has some fallout with SDP affiliates. PAP dislike Chee, so I don't think Bob Sim's action is about feeling estrange here.

As written above. The way many (not all) people criticise the PAP is no different from how this man criticises the SDP. Even the looks of LKY's family females are often not spared.

There's a difference. LKY is not a underdog. He is the bully. Chee is a underdog. To stalk and attack an underdog, thats inhumane and doesn't feels right.

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Perhaps Buddhist Bob was taking the "blood libel" position — the apparent traditional Catholic and Protestant interpretation from Matthew 27:25 as a self-imposed curse that God has "honoured" over the centuries? However there maybe a conflict if one were to rely on Peter and John instead where they appear to say that in the execution of God's plan, both Gentile and Jew had a hand.

You are sorely mistaken here Leetahbar.

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Bro all you and the TS are doing is indulging Buddhist Bob. I have long since demonstrated that Buddhist Bob is a hypocrite dishonestly plying his personal feud and vendetta against Dr Chee and SDP. Buddhist Bob does not appear to come with clean hands viz his attacks against Dr Chee and SDP.

Furthermore just from his earlier posts to the TS in this thread alone, you can see that Buddhist Bob reeks of hypocrisy and double standards. Buddhist Bob paints out the tired hackneyed PAP/ST line about everything being hunky dory in Singapore. However Buddhist Bob appears to have shot himself in the mouth and foot because why then does he create other threads criticising the PAP govt of the exact same things that Dr Chee has been saying for donkey years now? And worse still Buddhist Bob has the cheek and gall to take Dr Chee to task for "propaganda" I mean this has to take the cake with 154, sheesh

Leetahbar, i think the TS asked a question that can bring healing, only if you answer it honestly - which aspect of CSJ's message you are against.

From what you are saying - CSJ is pulling wool over singaporeans' eyes.

Is that what you are saying in using all the above as evidence?

If so, can what you said be applied to the lives, statements and actions of the other opposition leaders? Or will they have other aspects that create subterfuge in the eyes of the critical?

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Who is "Mr Lee" Bro?

I may be wrong but I understand Mr Lee here was once close to the SDP or some of its affiliates and knew them personally, hence he could be referring to their actions rather than ideas.

 

[char_jig_kar]

Who is "Mr Lee" Bro?

lee as in leetahbar.

 

[leetahbar]

I may be wrong but I understand Mr Lee here was once close to the SDP or some of its affiliates and knew them personally, hence he could be referring to their actions rather than ideas.

I may not agree with him but I think going by what you wrote, no one should be criticising the PAP at all.

sdp under chiam see tong and sdp under chee is entirely and differently focused.

chiam was more for the bigger goodness which was more wholesome. chee is - and still IS - for personal vendetta, resentment and hence vengeance. he doesn't care about peasants. he's merely using that as a weapon to be instigated and manipulated to target at causing anger and displeasure against the gov. as it stands out, such sinister intention backfires time and again. look at his usual gang of backup supporters....sometimes most of them were not even there to back him up.

that's the fact and the real picture so do not over-rate chee and over glorify his craftiness.

 

[guavatree]

chee is - and still IS - for personal vendetta, resentment and hence vengeance.

old fart faggot fake monk PAP dog Bob Sim Kheng Hwee, temple thief, swindler, fraudster, cheat, con-artist, liar, deceiver, all rolled into one!

you're not only a cyber-prostitute but also a rabid barking PAP dog!

all because of your PERSONAL VENDETTA!!!

 

[Ah Guan]

Lau homo Lee Tah Sar

There is a good reason why you are called "Ah Kwa" over and over again

Your political stance can change because of personal grudges

Really goes to show what kind of sissy you are!

 

[leetahbar]

hahaha...that's what u fake opp are good for only. please tell that to chee or maybe u aren't even an authentic one.

 

[leetahbar]

Btw, about personal vendetta.

Lets look at Hitler. Hitler commit atrocity against the Jews. And many of the Jews thus have personal vendetta against Hitler. So what is so wrong for Jews to have personal vendetta against a cruel monster such as Hitler??

tell me honestly what do u think about chee now?

chee sucking up obama to hantam sgp

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see what a cunning opportunist would do. chee is even sucking up to obama. hmm, wonder how Oba would reply him or ask himself: WHO THE HELL IS THE CHEE??! bye to him! letter ends up picking dog poo.
Dr Chee congratulates President Obama ! (like real!)


Dear President Obama,

An occasion of great moment has come upon America this 20th day of January 2009. It is a day summoned by history to what is good and noble as you are inaugurated President of the United States.

My colleagues and I at the Singapore Democratic Party, extend to you our heartfelt congratulations.

We are especially encouraged by what you said on Human Rights Day in December last year:: “When the United States stands up for human rights, by example at home and by effort abroad, we align ourselves with men and women around the world who struggle for the right to speak their minds, to choose their leaders, and to be treated with dignity and respect.”

Alas here in Asia there are altogether too many men and women who still labour under authoritarian regimes and dictatorships.

Mdm Aung San Suu Kyi and her fellow servants of democracy in Burma continue to languish in dark cells simply for daring to dream of freedom. The military government needs to know that with new leadership in the United States, it cannot be repression-as-usual. Change, urgent change must come to Burma, a country that civility has so cruelly forsaken.

In my country, Singapore, the repression is no less severe -- its ugly form made only less grotesque by an English-speaking regime that cleverly uses terms like the "rule of law" and "good governance" to cover up what is effectively a dictatorship.

How else can you describe a government that prohibits public speech and peaceful assembly, completely controls the media, continues to detain its citizens without trial, and manipulates elections?

My party colleagues and fellow human rights advocates have been arrested and prosecuted for taking part in peaceful protests. In March last year 18 of us stood outside our Parliament and protested against the rising cost of living in Singapore. For that we were dragged away by the police and charged for taking part in an illegal procession and assembly. The trial is on-going.

I face multiple charges for speaking in public and conducting protests. I've already been imprisoned seven times. I've been sued for defamation by government leaders and made a bankrupt. As a result I've been banned from standing for elections and barred from travelling overseas. I've been jailed twice for contempt of court.

But don't get me wrong. I'm not complaining. And neither are my associates. We fight for justice and freedom with gladness in our hearts.

But even as I make this video, the Singapore government is already crafting yet more laws to make it even more difficult for the public to conduct protests.

I understand that the United States' relations with Singapore is one based on pragmatism. We are a strong military ally and valuable trading partner. What I don't understand is how a democratic Singapore that respects the rights of its people, undermines this relationship. In fact, a Singapore that practices the rule of law is very much in the interests of the US, both long-term and short.

It is my sincere hope that your administration's foreign policy will be as enlightened as you. I have every confidence that under the leadership of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, the US will pay more attention to the human rights abuses of the Singapore government and take positive steps to help Singapore join the Community of Democracies.

Before your entry into politics you were a community organiser and civil rights lawyer. Because of this you understand what it is like to be under the crushing weight of poverty.

In Singapore we have a significant layer of the underclass. Like many, I am sure you are shocked to hear that the poor in Singapore are not a small minority. People living in cardboard boxes, stealing scraps of leftovers in public eating places, and the rummaging through dumpsters for something to sell is not an uncommon sight in Singapore.

The tragedy is they suffer in silence for they have no rights and no avenue speak their pain.

But while they suffer, our Prime Minister pays himself a salary that is six times yours. This income disparity did not come about because of the free-market system. It came about because of deliberate policy-making designed to attract the world's wealth to this country, legitimate or otherwise. This is why Singapore has become a tax haven, one that benefits only the rich and super-rich in this country but leaves much of the rest of society neglected.

Like you I have young children whom I love dearly. Like yours I want mine to grow up in a society that places rights before riches, people before profits, a society that values justice and one that is free as it is strong.

It is my hope that the universality of human rights and your leadership will help make the world a better place for your children and mine.

Again, I want to take this opportunity to congratulate you on this most special of days. The load that you bear is heavy and the responsibility you shoulder immense. But I have no doubt that the confidence that your fellow citizens have placed in you will be fully vindicated.

Under your leadership, I look forward to a world that is freer, more democratic, and more just.

Thank you and God Bless.