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Govt says they never plan for 10m, but past reports show otherwise

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https://www.onlinecitizenasia.com/2...frastructure-ready-for-10-million-population/

URA releases plan to build underground infrastructure ready for 10 million population
https://www.onlinecitizenasia.com/2...frastructure-ready-for-10-million-population/


On Wednesday (3 Apr), the Nikkei Asian Review reported that Singapore has plans to build underground infrastructure below its existing land and buildings in order to maximise space. Singapore was compelled to do so, it noted, because of large population growth. Also, land reclamation is deemed to be impractical after Cambodia banned sand exports.

Taking reference from a master development plan released by the Urban Redevelopment Authority (URA) on March 27, the Nikkei Asia Review noted that the new master plan now includes additional mention of underground infrastructure. Underground infrastructure was never mentioned in an earlier 2014 master plan.

“The plan comes as an expanding population shrugs off the country’s geographic constraints and with land reclamation becoming impractical,” Nikkei said.

“So with lateral and vertical options all but exhausted, the country’s new master development plan calls for tunneling below.”

According to URA, the government intends “to free up land for people-centric uses by relocating utilities, transport, storage and industrial facilities underground”.


The URA said that this would be done by tapping “on 3D technology to facilitate upfront planning for underground space”.

Currently, three districts have been identified and the underground planning will be expanded to more areas in the future. “We are [also] studying the feasibility of using caverns for utility, storage and industrial uses at areas like Tanjong Kling” it added.

The URA also said that they are “developing a planning tool to identify areas with potential for cavern development based on compatibility with above ground uses and suitable geology.”


According to the Master Plan 2019, there is indeed a new segment for underground infrastructure. Based on the plans, the underground structures are being planned for central business district, Jurong Innovation District and Punggol Digital District.


The deepest structures go down to 15 metres below surface level.

PM-designate Heng Swee Keat welcomes more “foreign talents”

Just last week, Finance Minister and Prime Minister designate said at a forum in NTU that Singaporeans need to be open and understanding of foreigners.

He quoted former chief planner Liu Thai Ker, who felt that Singapore’s population density is not excessive and that Singapore should plan for 10 million people in order to remain sustainable in the long term.

It has been observed that “foreign talents” and migrant workers continue to stream into Singapore. As at Jun 2018, the population stood at 5.64 million while the government wants to increase the population to 6.9 million by 2030 according to a Population White Paper written by the National Population and Talent Division in the Prime Minister’s Office.

Meanwhile, more Singaporean PMETs who were retrenched and couldn’t find suitable work are resorting to driving taxi and grab.

NUS Prof: Living underground has its risks and technical challenges

In any case, there are challenges living underground.

According to Civil Engineering Professor Yong Kwet Yew from NUS, the technical challenges include the “uncertainty of the geology and ground conditions” and “potential damage to above ground buildings”. In addition, there is also the difficulty of evacuating “people in the event of an underground fire”.

Of course, moving underground may be one way to accommodate Minister Heng’s vision of 10 million population on our little island. But would Singaporeans want such living conditions for their future generations?

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https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/sporeans-must-remain-open-to-foreigners-says-heng


Singaporeans need to be open and understanding of foreigners - whether immigrants or workers and students from other countries - so that they have the confidence to interact with people of all races, languages and cultures from around the world, said Finance Minister Heng Swee Keat.
It will be very negative for Singaporeans to draw an exclusive circle for themselves as Singapore would then have no place in the world, Mr Heng told about 700 students attending a ministerial dialogue at Nanyang Technological University (NTU) yesterday.
"We don't want a world where people build walls around themselves," he said to laughter.

"Our pledge - regardless of race, language or religion - is not to be taken lightly… but really as a way of life for Singapore.
"Beyond that, we ought to deepen our understanding of other people... whether they are new immigrants, our immediate neighbours, students from NTU, National University of Singapore or other universities," he said.
Mr Heng also encouraged students on exchange programmes to interact and learn from others.


The need for Singaporeans to have an open mindset and a multicultural outlook was one of his key messages at the two-hour forum, during which he was questioned on a raft of issues, including population growth, technological disruption and meritocracy.

WAY OF LIFE FOR SINGAPORE
We don't want a world where people build walls around themselves. Our pledge - regardless of race, language or religion - is not to be taken lightly… but really as a way of life for Singapore.
FINANCE MINISTER HENG SWEE KEAT

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On the projected population of 6.9 million by 2030, set out in the Government's 2013 Population White Paper, Mr Heng said the number goes beyond how densely populated Singapore would be. The social space is as important.

Singapore's population density is not excessive, he said, noting that other cities are a lot more crowded in terms of liveable space.
He cited former chief planner Liu Thai Ker, who said in 2014 that Singapore should plan for 10 million people for it to remain sustainable in the long term.
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Giving an account of a constituent who was not comfortable with having foreigners working in his company, Mr Heng said there lies a "difficult trade-off" of integration Singaporeans have to make.

"On the one level, many Singaporeans understand, rationally, we should have more people join us because our workforce is declining.

"But at the same time, emotionally, we don't feel comfortable that there are people who appear a little different from us and I would like to keep this to my circle. This almost tribal feeling is a very deep one," Mr Heng added.

Quoting the saying "Teochew nang kaki nang" - which translates to "Teochew people, we are the same people" - Mr Heng said it makes sense to retain some form of identity and culture in multicultural Singapore, but Singapore must not propagate the notion that only people exactly like us are our people.
On the economic front, Singapore needs to be open as well. Noting that Singapore should not be too narrow in its development of deeper skills and innovation, he said: "Asia and the world are our hinterland, and how we can add value and create value - not just for Singapore - but for the entire hinterland, will define our market.

Finance Minister Heng Swee Keat said it is a positive sign that young people are comfortable with having a minority-race PM.

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"And with e-commerce, the market is no longer selling door to door. If you have a great product that can be on a great e-commerce site, you sell around the world."
Mr Heng also encouraged the students to interact with those from other countries, as this will create more opportunities for themselves in the future.
"In your university days, it is the time when it is best for you to really meet your future partner," he quipped, saying it was where he met his wife.
Asked about technological disruption and artificial intelligence, he said some routine tasks can and should be automated but more complex ones will require human empathy and creativity.

He cited educational technology, saying that while machines can replace repetitive tasks that teachers do, education is not just about head knowledge, like numeracy and literacy.

"Education is about building the person, the social and emotional development of the child. It's about the development of character, of values, and in particular, also the development of social skills - how you work with other people," said the former education minister.
Mr Heng said being able to work together effectively is key, but combining the strengths of people is not straightforward.
"People will always quarrel and have disagreements. How do you make a team productive requires leadership and social skills. Increasingly, I see so many companies - as well as our own public service - assessing our officers not on paper qualifications and IQ, but on how well they work with people.

"I don't believe machines will make us redundant, but I also caution that our willingness to change, to develop new skills so that machines make us even more productive, is going to be a critical task."
To do that, companies must think hard about redesigning jobs and reskilling workers. Students must think of how they can learn any time, anywhere, and from anyone in the years ahead, he said.

He related a story about a candidate in an interview at the Monetary Authority of Singapore - where he was the managing director - who said he wanted the job to learn as much as possible and one day take Mr Heng's position.

"There was no notion of how to want to contribute to the organisation. If you think in that narrow, self-centred way, you will not make progress," said Mr Heng.

A version of this article appeared in the print edition of The Straits Times on March 29, 2019, with the headline 'S'poreans must remain open to foreigners, says Heng'. Print Edition | Subscribe


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laksaboy

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Maybe it's something like Goal 2010: 10 million is not a goal, but an 'aspiration'. :biggrin:

They will play semantics with you.
 

tobelightlight

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Maybe it's something like Goal 2010: 10 million is not a goal, but an 'aspiration'. :biggrin:

They will play semantics with you.
PAP told us the plan on the mainstream media. That is the plan itself already. Dr Chee mentioned about the PLAN.. he didn't say PAP is actually execute the plan. So Dr Chee didn't play the words but may PAP later will play the words to save face.
 

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10million has been mentioned many times in the past as part of Singapore's long-term plan by government agencies.

This website was updated 5 weeks ago.
PUB talked about doubling water usage in Singapore by 2060 from now.
http://www.pub.gov.sg/watersupply/singaporewaterstory

Means, we will be more thirsty by 2060? Part of an underlying plan to import more foreigners.
 

tanwahtiu

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Underground living? Go get heads check.

Almost tell us to live in a family coffin, die together if there is a big flood coming. Ridiculous!

No talent PAP is full of crap!

Might as well. Got money qhy not buy over Bintang and Batam island?

Best.... invasion of Batam and Bintang islands as suggested by Papsmearer.... leh...
 

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Maybe it's something like Goal 2010: 10 million is not a goal, but an 'aspiration'. :biggrin:

They will play semantics with you.
Its all about intention and not semantics. Anyway, CSJ should prepare for a lawsuit coming his way after election 2020. Some things never change...
 

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Very heartwarming pic, somehow reminds me of my kids.... Just hope they grow up remembering how their old man was treated shabbily by people who desperately want to hold on to power with no regard for true democracy...
Did u get to know his children? What education did his children go through?
 

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One must respect the true grit by CSJ...despite being beaten down and trodden by PAP in the past, he still can come out fighting for Singaporeans.
 

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One must respect the true grit by CSJ...despite being beaten down and trodden by PAP in the past, he still can come out fighting for Singaporeans.
Hear, hear... top marks for his perseverance although I am not sure if Sinkees appreciate it. Just saying...
 
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