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分析师：5G版iPhone明年难推出 苹果地位或被取代


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瑞银分析师称，苹果很可能无法在2020年推出5G版iPhone，iPhone的地位可能“已处于被取代的位置”。
瑞银分析师蒂莫西·阿库里（Timothy Arcuri）表示，根据他的“实地调查”结果，苹果很可能无法在2020年推出5G版iPhone，因为英特尔届时可能无法“准备好能和5G基带向后兼容的芯片”。他认为，iPhone的地位可能“已处于被取代的位置”。

这位分析师认为，虽然苹果无法在2020年推出5G手机一事“不好”，但可以被用户对iPhone换机需求减缓来抵冲。
蒂莫西·阿库里（Timothy Arcuri）还表示，英特尔应该会在未来停止或出售基带业务，而买家可能是苹果。


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UBS analysts said that Apple may not be able to launch the 5G version of the iPhone in 2020, and the status of the iPhone may be "in a position to be replaced."

UBS analyst Timothy Arcuri said that according to his "field investigation" results, Apple may not be able to launch the 5G version of the iPhone in 2020, because Intel may not be "ready to work with 5G baseband". Backward compatible chip." He believes that the status of the iPhone may be "already in a position to be replaced."

The analyst believes that although Apple's failure to launch a 5G mobile phone in 2020 is "not good," it can be offset by a slowdown in demand for iPhone replacement.

Timothy Arcuri also said that Intel should stop or sell the baseband business in the future, and the buyer may be Apple.


http://www.iphonehacks.com/2019/04/...opardy-as-intel-struggles-meet-deadlines.html


Apple’s 5G iPhone Launch in 2020 in Jeopardy as Intel Struggles to Meet Development Deadlines
Posted by Rajesh Pandey on Apr 04, 2019 in 2020 iPhones, News

Apple’s plan to launch a 5G iPhone in 2020 are in jeopardy as Intel has been struggling to meet the development deadline of its XMM 8160 5G modem.
Apple is looking to solely source 5G modem from Intel until its own in-house 5G modem design is ready.
For Apple to launch a 5G iPhone in 2020, Intel needs to deliver sample chips to the company by early summer of 2019 followed by a finished modem design in early 2020. However, Intel has struggled to meet the deadlines and it looks unlikely that its 5G modem will be ready in time. This has strained the relationship between the two companies. There have already been three different project managers over at Intel to manage its relationship with Apple.
Apple already has over 1,000 to 1,200 engineers working on an in-house modem for future iPhones. The company has managed to poach RF engineers from both Qualcomm and Intel to its team who are working in a San Diego development facility. However, despite Apple’s best efforts, the modem is only going to be ready by 2021 or later.
Apple has held talks with Samsung and MediaTek to use their 5G modem in 2020. However, neither of the companies are in a position to supply Apple with standalone 5G modem in 2020. Apples best bet is to go back to Qualcomm but given the strained relationship between the two companies, that’s unlikely to happen.
The report from Fast Company also highlights that iPhone modem orders are not particularly lucrative for Intel. Apple negotiated a very attractive price for modems from Intel which means the latter is making very little profit. Plus, the agreement demands that Intel keeps up with development and fabrication deadlines and orders from Apple always receive the highest priority.
Intel must move to fabricating modem on 10nm followed by 7nm fabrication node to keep up with TSMC. This requires a huge investment on Intel’s part and while orders from Apple will be enough to keep its fab operational and busy, it would also means that the company prioritises orders from the Cupertino company first. This means not being able to fulfil orders of other more profitable clients. This is something that has not gone down well with Intel’s new CEO Robert Swan.
Our Take
If Intel is unable to deliver a 5G modem to Apple in time for 2020 iPhones, we could see the company completely skipping 5G connectivity for the year. Instead, Apple might just delay offering 5G on iPhones until its own in-house modem is ready. Despite the hype, 5G networks are still in nascent stages and almost non-existent so Apple can possibly afford this delay.
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5G iPhone unlikely until 2020, given Intel modem announcement

By Malcolm Owen
Friday, February 22, 2019, 11:51 am PT (02:51 pm ET)
An iPhone capable of connecting to a carrier's 5G mobile network will not happen this year, an announcement from Intel indicates, with the chip producer's modems using the high-speed cellular communications technology not expected to appear in smartphones and mobile devices until 2020.

Mockup with 5G logo on an iPhone XS Max​

Apple is currently believed to be leaving out 5G connectivity as a feature of the 2019 iPhones, in favor of waiting another year before adding support for the wireless technology. While speculation and analysis indicates that is likely to be the case, Intel has seemingly confirmed it won't be able to help Apple if it decided to add 5G to the iPhone this year.

Intel executives advised to Reuters on Friday devices using its 5G modems won't go on sale until 2020. While Intel does not name specific companies that are affected by the announcement, as it is a major supplier of modems to Apple, it effectively infers this year's iPhone models won't be 5G-enabled if they use Intel's modems.

Intel networking chip chief Sandra Riviera advised sample 5G modem chips will ship to vendors this year. Non-consumer 5G products, including networking equipment, will ship this year, but consumer-oriented devices using Intel's modem are not expected by Riviera to launch this year at all.

Earlier reports opened up the possibility of a 5G modem being included in a 2019 iPhone, with the launch of the XMM 8160 5G modem in November being made half a year earlier than originally scheduled. At the time, Intel advised its plan was to ship the 5G modem in the second half of 2019, with commercial devices using it thought to start shipping in the first half of 2020.

Intel is not the only company to have created a 5G-capable modem. On Tuesday, Qualcomm revealed the Snapdragon X55 5G modem with the potential to offer download speeds of up to 7 gigabits per second and support for "all major frequency bands," but the ongoing legal battle with Apple means it won't be making an appearance in an iPhone anytime soon.

In testimony from Apple supply chain executive Tony Blevins for the FTC's antitrust trial against Qualcomm published in January, it was revealed Apple looked into the possibility of tapping MediaTek or Samsung to supply 5G modems, as a further way to avoid Qualcomm's modems if Intel failed to deliver. It was not advised whether Apple would use a 5G modem for 2019, nor if a deal was reached with either of the two potential modem suppliers.

The 2020 iPhones may not even use a modem designed by Intel or anyone else at all, as Apple is believed to be working on bringing the design of the component in-house, as it has done for other elements like the A-series processors. In early February, it was reported Apple's internal hardware teams were being restructured, with the relocation of the modem team to directly under the head of hardware suggesting a push towards a 5G modem may be on the cards.




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With Apple 5G modem likely in 2021, prospects for 5G iPhone in 2020 'in jeopardy'

By Roger Fingas
Wednesday, April 03, 2019, 07:08 am PT (10:08 am ET)
Apple is running up against pre-production deadlines to have an 5G modem in the 2020 iPhone, so it may wait until Apple is done with an in-house solution in 2021 a UBS analyst said on Wednesday.

"Barring settlement w/QCOM [Qualcomm] in the next few months, field work suggests Apple is increasingly in jeopardy of being unable to ship a 5G iPhone in 2020," wrote UBS' Timothy Arcuri. Intel likely won't be ready with a single-chip, backwards-compatible 5G modem in time, he continued, asserting that alternatives like Samsung and Mediatek are either "technically or practically" outside Apple's wheelhouse.

Arcuri reiterated his belief that Apple is working on a self-designed modem for 2021, and that Intel should sell its modem operation, possibly even to its current largest client, Apple. iPhones are now almost entirely based on Intel modems, the only exceptions being to skirt bans because of the ongoing legal war between Apple and Qualcomm.

Apple has reportedly been restructuring its internal hardware teams, possibly with a 5G modem in mind. Senior VP of hardware technologies Johny Srouji is allegedly overseeing that modem design, but it's unknown how far along development might be. Apple has been designing other chips for about a decade, such as A-series processors and W-series wireless modules.

Intel's 5G model will appear first in backbone and other commercial gear in 2019. The first consumer phones with Intel 5G modems are expected in 2020, which casts doubt on UBS claims. To be in an iPhone however, modem samples will have to arrive in time for testing, integration, and optimization, and at present it isn't clear where Intel and Apple are on that timeline.

Tangentially, Arcuri said that UBS is estimating that about 470 million of the 900 million iPhones in Apple's install base are "firsthand" purchases, "and thus the proper denominator against which to estimate upgrade rate." The firm calculates that of 204 million iPhones sold in 2018, 140 million were upgrades, giving Apple a rate of 3.4 years.

"While it is possible/likely this continues to lengthen, AAPL remains steadfast in its estimate that actual upgrade rates are [less than] 3 yrs which suggest we are now actually below full replacement rates - a factor which should soften any potential impact from the lack of a true 5G phone in 2020," the analyst commented.

He estimated that there could be as many as 185 million iPhone 5, 5s, 5c, SE, 4S, and 4 units in use, most of them secondhand, though they could be a "big opportunity over the coming years maybe catalyzed by creative lease/service offerings."

Today, the "realistic pool for services engagement" is between 500 and 600 million iPhones, Arcuri said, arguing that penetration by Apple TV Channels and Apple TV+ will be "deeper and faster" than Apple Music.

UBS is holding a "buy" rating for Apple stock with a $215 price target.

 

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AT&T’s “5G E” is actually slower than Verizon and T-Mobile 4G, study finds
AT&T's so-called "5G E" lost to Verizon and T-Mobile 4G in new speed tests.

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AT&T's "5G E" service is slightly slower than Verizon's and T-Mobile's advanced 4G LTE networks, a study by OpenSignal has found.
As Ars readers know, AT&T renamed a large portion of its 4G network, calling it "5G E," for "5G Evolution." If you see a 5G E indicator on an AT&T phone, that means you're connected to a portion of AT&T's 4G LTE network that supports standard LTE-Advanced features such as 256 QAM, 4x4 MIMO, and three-way carrier aggregation. All four major carriers have rolled out LTE-Advanced. But while Verizon, Sprint, and T-Mobile accurately call it 4G, AT&T calls it 5G E.

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Sprint sued AT&T, alleging that AT&T is gaining an unfair advantage by making false and misleading claims to consumers.

AT&T's network name change may well trick consumers into thinking they're getting better service than a 4G operator, but they aren't. We already knew that 5G E has no technological advantage over LTE-Advanced, because they are the same thing with different names. But actual speed tests could reinforce that point.

Such data now comes from an OpenSignal report that is scheduled to go live at this link today at 9am ET. After comparing user-initiated speed tests from more than 1 million devices, OpenSignal found that AT&T's "5G E" phones get average speeds of 28.8Mbps, which is less than T-Mobile's 29.4Mbps and Verizon's 29.9Mbps but higher than Sprint's 20.4Mbps. The AT&T average of 18.2Mbps on non-advanced LTE was also slightly behind T-Mobile and Verizon but ahead of Sprint:

For each network, this shows the average speed of LTE-Advanced ("5G E") phones versus the average speed of other 4G phones.
OpenSignal

In other words, AT&T's 5G E speeds are typical LTE-Advanced speeds. It is a real upgrade over the older portions of AT&T's 4G network, but that's true for all four carriers.

"Our analysis shows that AT&T customers with 5G E in their status bars are receiving up to a 60 percent boost in speeds over AT&T customers without it," OpenSignal CEO Brendan Gill said in a statement to Ars. "Of course, our analysis also shows that the same is true for the equivalent Verizon and T-Mobile customers even though they don't see a '5G E' label on their device. Bottom line, if one service is offering a meaningful boost over another, it probably should be labeled differently, just not with a name that confuses customers."
Crowdsourced testing

OpenSignal data is based on crowdsourced speed tests that can be performed by anyone using OpenSignal's apps for iPhone and Android. OpenSignal told us today's report is based on tests on 1,057,522 devices nationwide, across all four carriers, between January 28 and February 26.

The tests don't automatically distinguish between LTE-Advanced and regular 4G LTE networks. But OpenSignal is able to distinguish between phone models, and it compared the phones that AT&T says are 5G E-capable to those that aren't. The resulting data thus compares LTE-Advanced phones to non-LTE-Advanced phones, regardless of whether the tests were conducted in a location where the network supports LTE-Advanced features.

When contacted by Ars, AT&T argued that this limitation invalidates the results.

"OpenSignal's note reveals their methodology is flawed," AT&T told Ars. "Speed-test data purporting to show the 'real-world experience of 5G Evolution' without verifying the capable devices were tested in a 5G Evolution coverage area as shown by the indicator does not accurately represent the 5G Evolution user experience."

But all four carriers were measured the same way, and the resulting data may reflect the breadth of each carrier's LTE-Advanced deployment. Carriers that have deployed more LTE-Advanced coverage across the US would likely get higher speed-test results than carriers that haven't upgraded their networks to the same extent.

AT&T has repeatedly boasted about the size of its 5G E/LTE-Advanced footprint, saying it covers more than 400 markets across the United States. But we don't know exactly how much LTE-Advanced coverage each carrier has. If AT&T's 5G E was significantly faster or more widespread than other carriers' LTE-Advanced service, the OpenSignal tests probably would have found a big speed difference in AT&T's favor. Instead, the results showed higher average speeds for Verizon and T-Mobile.

AT&T offered no further comment.

The new results are consistent with OpenSignal's previous testing. OpenSignal's overall data on consumer 4G experiences, released in January, showed that AT&T lagged behind Verizon and T-Mobile in 4G availability, video quality, and both download and upload speeds.

OpenSignal's testing doesn't yet tell us what speeds consumers can expect when they get real 5G. But the data shows "the extent to which LTE, or 4G, networks have improved since LTE's original launch," OpenSignal wrote in today's report. Deployment of LTE-Advanced technology has created "a much faster experience than the initial version of 4G that was launched back in 2009-2011" but no real advantage for AT&T over its top rivals.

If you've been following the AT&T 5G E story, the OpenSignal results won't surprise you. But if you know anyone who's confused by AT&T's misleading marketing, now you've got some data to help clear things up.



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Verizon’s 5G network is live and fast, if you can find it

Cue the Chicago-wide scavenger hunt.


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In a bid to claim the title of the first consumer-ready 5G network in the world, Verizon surprised us by lighting up its 5G nodes across Chicago and Minneapolis ahead of schedule. Obviously, there was no way we couldn't book a flight to the Windy City and see what this next-gen network was capable of. As usual, though, things weren't quite that straightforward. What actually happened is that my time testing 5G turned into a city-wide scavenger hunt, trying — often in vain — to find stable high-speed connections.

To be clear, when you do find 5G, it's usually as fast (if not a little faster) than the 450Mbps (down) that Verizon claims. And, yes, this is only the second day the network has been live, so the carrier deserves a little slack. For now, though, only people who crave life on the wireless bleeding edge need apply — just about everyone else is better off waiting for Verizon (or its competitors, for that matter) to flesh out their 5G coverage maps first.
For those who do want to take the plunge, the costs involved can be surprisingly low. The most crucial bit of hardware I needed was Motorola's $200 5G Moto Mod, attached to a $480 Moto Z3. (You'll also have to pay $10 a month on top of your existing data plan, but that's true of all Verizon 5G phones.) Around $700 for a full-blown 5G setup seems reasonable and is almost certainly less than what you'd pay for a 5G-enabled Galaxy S10. But that little math problem won't work out in everyone's favor — for one, it presumes that you'd want to use an upper-mid-range Android device instead of a full-blown flagship.

This isn't the first time we've seen the 5G Mod or the Z3, but it is the first time I've used them outside of a canned demo. There are four mmWave antennas inside (for redundancy) and a 2,000mAh battery that only powers the Mod. While Motorola promises that Moto Z2 owners will also be able to use the 5G Mod, there's no official timeline in place — for now, Doug Michau, Motorola's head of product operations says updates for the Mod's "stability and robustness" on the Z3 take priority.
As clunky as the Mod can feel, it actually held up quite well. I've been dashing around the city trying to run speed tests and download apps whenever possible, and after six hours of the most consistent use I could manage, it still had about 40 percent battery left. As it turned out, the Mod's battery life was much less of a concern than actually finding the 5G network itself.

You're going to see this 4G logo a lot. Chris Velazco/Engadget
Verizon wouldn't confirm how many nodes are live in Chicago at the moment, only that it hadn't added any since yesterday. Since they're designed to look unobtrusive when attached to poles and streetlights, there are few visual cues to let you know what kinds of speeds to expect. As you might have noticed in some of these photos, there is an obnoxiously large "5G UWB" (for "ultra-wideband") logo that replaces the subtle LTE mark in the phone's notification bar. Surely that will let you know when you've hit the 5G jackpot, right? Well, not always.
The way Verizon's system is set up, that 5G UWB logo appears only when the Mod is connected to the network and actively using it. That means you could be walking through a slice of the city that has 5G up and running and not even realize it if an app or service wasn't trying to connect over it. It also means that, because the 5G logo doesn't automatically appear when your phone is connected to the network, actively searching for places where 5G works is more difficult than it needs to be. The only ways to know for sure involved walking around staring at your phone in hopes that some app in the background triggers the 5G logo, or triggering the logo change yourself by trying to use the data connection.
Maybe I'm in the minority on this one, but this feels pretty ridiculous. Right now, if I want to download a podcast on the street, I'm going to do it when my phone has an LTE connection, not a 3G one. Similarly, if I want to download a few episodes of The Office in the Netflix app, I'd prefer to do it over 5G instead of 4G. Verizon's approach here doesn't take into account how user behaviors could change when people know they have access to a much faster network, and the fact that someone who pays for 5G service (an extra $10 a month) could feasibly not even know it was available seems tremendously short-sighted.
It doesn't help that the 5G logo also "flickers," because different apps are tapping into the 5G connection and stopping at different times. The result? The phone looks like it's rapidly jumping between 4G and 5G connections, even though that's not necessarily the case. In other words, the 5G connection can look really flaky even when it's not. Even worse, that phone exhibits the same behavior when the 5G connection is, in fact, flaky, which has happened with some frequency here. (More on that in a bit.)

Where I did find 5G, I generally saw very fast download speeds in Ookla's Speedtest app. Emphasis on the word "generally" — in some places, I could consistently get north of 350Mbps down, and frequently saw speeds top out at nearly 600Mbps. Verizon claims that peak speeds can get as high as 1Gbps, but even with few people actively using the network now, none of my tests even got close. Even so, assuming you find the right location, 5G on the Moto Z3 can be really fast. (Of course, that's not to say it doesn't have competition.)
The thing to keep in mind is that there's more to using a phone than just looking at speed tests, and for now at least, the practical benefits of 5G on this smartphone haven't been game-changers. Pages loaded noticeably faster than my personal iPhone on AT&T's so-called 5GE network, but I'm not sure that's necessarily a fair comparison — as I bounced across the city, I rarely found full coverage on AT&T anyway.
5G was more helpful for playing back 1080p60 video on YouTube, though. Scrubbing through the same videos took noticeably less time on the 5G Moto Z3 than another test device I brought with me. I also downloaded PUBG Mobile (a 1.81GB file) over 5G in exactly four minutes and 30 seconds, which isn't bad considering the same download took just over eight minutes over LTE. When I launched the app to try and fumble through a round, though, I noticed that the download speeds for a 200-ish MB update file never went faster than 8MB per second, or 64Mbps. That's not nearly as fast as I was hoping for.
Months ago, Motorola nearly sold me on the idea of trying to use the 5G-enabled Moto Z3 as a superfast mobile hotspot while traveling. It's a great idea in theory, but that's all it is right now — until Motorola releases a software update at some point, the hotspot feature simply doesn't work. It's probably just as well, too, because upload speeds were comparatively tame — they generally hovered between 15 and 25Mbps. That's because only data traffic to the phone runs over the 5G network; everything you try to upload gets routed over LTE, so anyone hoping to move big files around on the go will likely be disappointed (at least for now).
As I plodded around in the rain on foot, I did find a few particularly strong pockets of 5G. The single best place I found to get a sense of the network's speed was right outside Motorola's headquarters in the city's historic Merchandise Mart. That's great if you work for Motorola, but less than ideal for, well, most residents of Chicago. I also stumbled across a decent 5G signal at the corner of Michigan and Monroe, a busy intersection just feet away from Millennium Park and the city's Art Institute.
This is where things started to get a little dicey. The typical speed tests were appropriately quick outdoors, but when I ducked into a coffee shop to try and warm up a bit, the phone quickly fell back to an LTE connection. When I pressed myself up against the coffee shop's front window, the 5G UWB logo popped up again... for just a moment. I spent the next fifteen minutes watching the phone switch between 4G and 5G connections, but the pane of glass in front of me seemed to prevent it from securely latching onto that mmWave signal.
A lackluster speed test result (roughly 45Mbps down) confirmed the issue. Those flaky connections don't just strike when indoors, either. The rest of my jaunt around the touristy spots Verizon said should have functional 5G involved lots of wandering around and freezing in place when I saw the 5G logo pop up. While that often worked, I occasionally saw the phone switching back and forth between 4G and 5G during speed tests, leading to significantly slower results.

I still have a few hours left with the 5G Mod in Chicago, so I'm going to keep poking around the city in hopes of getting a more uniform experience. In fairness, Verizon's 5G network has only been up and running for two days, and when it works, it works surprisingly well. What the whole shebang lacks right now is any sort of satisfying consistency. Like the rain pelting the city on and off today, many of the 5G connections I stumbled into were intermittent and frustrating. The fact that Verizon only wants you to know you're on 5G when you're already using it doesn't help matters.

After all of this, I can't help but wonder if Verizon made the right choice in lighting up its 5G network early. I got the distinct feeling throughout the day that the company's surprise launch caught people on many levels a little off-guard. Naturally, Verizon disagrees with my assessment — Ed Chan, Verizon's chief network engineering officer, told me that the network's stability had improved to the point where launching April 11th as originally planned would've provided people with the same experience they're getting now. That might be true, and I have little doubt that things will improve dramatically in time. That's just how network rollouts go. For now, though, all we can do is wait and hope change happens fast.

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Apple just endorsed AT&T’s fake 5G E network

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By Chaim Gartenberg@cgartenberg Feb 4, 2019, 4:55pm EST


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There are no 5G iPhones, and there probably won’t be 5G iPhones for a while. But that isn’t stopping Apple and AT&T: they are reportedly rolling out AT&T’s fake “5G E” branding with its upcoming iOS 12.2 update, according to a report from MacRumors. Much like when the two companies pulled this scam with 4G and LTE back in 2012, if you can’t beat them, you roll out a software update to make it look like you did even though the phones and network are still exactly the same.
If you can’t beat ‘em, roll out a software update to make it look like you did
Multiple users on Twitter are now reporting that they’re seeing the new 5G E icon on devices running the latest iOS 12.2 beta 2, which was released earlier today. The new icon isn’t there for everyone, presumably because it will only appear in cities where AT&T’s 5G Evolution network — the company’s intentionally misleading name for its LTE network that it seems to hope customers will confuse for actual, next-generation 5G networks — is active. Additionally, 9to5Mac reports that the new logo seems to be limited to Apple’s newest XR, XS, and XS Max iPhones for now.
Just like in 2012, Apple has not magically inserted new, next-gen radio chipsets into its phones via software updates, nor has it unlocked some latent capability in its phones to make them faster than they were before. They’re the same iPhones that are running the same hardware and software and connecting to the same LTE network at the same speeds they did before — just with a new logo.
In short, it’s the exact same marketing scam that AT&T pulled when it began rolling out its 5G E logo on Android phones last month, with an extra dose of Apple’s complicity in pulling this scam on its own customers. It appears that Apple even helped AT&T design a new version of its 5G E logo to match the iPhone’s menubar, down to the smaller “E” that AT&T seems to hope you’ll confuse with real 5G.

AT&T, Apple, and all of the other Android manufacturers that have already agreed to this can call it “5G E” all they want — and apparently, they will — but that doesn’t make 5G E a 5G network, nor does it mean that 5G E phones will get 5G speeds. It’s just like how writing a few extra zeros with a sharpie on a $1 bill doesn’t make it worth $100.
Much like with Apple and AT&T’s 4G scam seven years ago, it’s easy to see why the two companies would want to mislead customers like this. Apple isn’t expected to release a 5G iPhone until sometime in 2020 when the market is more mature, which is a similar strategy to the company’s later adoption of LTE. In lieu of an actual 5G iPhone to compete with the upcoming wave of LG, Samsung, and Huawei 5G flagships that are expected to roll out as soon as Mobile World Congress at the end of the month, slapping AT&T’s 5G E logo on its current and future phones is the next best way to get a “5G” phone that it can market against those real next-gen devices while it waits.
AT&T gets the benefit of claiming that it has the only “5G” iPhone around due to the technicality of its branding, while its competition is stuck offering Apple devices that are still only on LTE, despite the fact that they’re still all the same hardware and running on the same LTE networks.
Given the success of the 4G / HSPA+ / LTE scam seven years ago, it’s not surprising that Apple and AT&T would try again. But it sure is disappointing that with all of the advances we’ve made in mobile technology since then, the misleading marketing tactics have remained the same.

 

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iPhone 5G release date: When will the 5G iPhone come out?


Wondering when will iPhone 5G come out and whether 5G will work on your iPhone? We answer your questions! Find out what is 5G, when 5G will arrive where you are, and which iPhones will work with 5G.

By Karen Haslam | 05 Apr 19

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• > iPhone 5G release date
• > When will we get 5G?
• > Apple vs Qualcomm
• > Will the iPhone XS work with 5G?
• > What is 5G?

Now that Samsung has confirmed that some models of the Galaxy S10 will offer 5G, you may be wondering when the 5G iPhone will launch. The Galaxy S10 5G edition will launch later in 2019 and there will also be a OnePlus 5G phone, coming in May 2019, apparently, but if you are wondering if the iPhone is 5G, or when Apple will launch a 5G iPhone, you may be in for a long wait.
iPhone 5G release date

While other smartphone manufacturers plan to launch smartphones that work with 5G in 2019, it sounds like Apple won’t be ready to do so until 2020.

In fact, Apple might even miss 2020, the iPhone 5G might not arrive until 2021, according to an analyst.

UBS analyst Timothy Arcuri told 9to5Mac that "there is an increasing likelihood that Apple will not be able to launch a 5G iPhone next year [2020].”

Arcuri believes that Apple is targeting 2021 for the 5G iPhone release, and he decribes even that as a "technical hurdle".

It seems that there are a few reasons for the delay.


Intel is one factor. According to Fast Company sources in November 2018, the Intel 5G modem chip that Apple is working with is suffering from “heat dissipation issues”. 5G pushes the modem to such an extent that it generates a lot of heat.

And Intel has confirmed the delay. According to a Reuters report in February 2019, the head of Intel’s networking chip business Sandra Rivera revealed that while Intel’s 5G modem chip will be available later this year it won’t appear in consumer “products in the market” until 2020. (It will be seen in non-consumer products, such as networking products.)

Another Fast Company report in April 2019 states that Intel has been missing deadlines on the 5G chip, and Apple is losing confidence in the company to such an extent that it is readying itself to design its own modem chips with between 1,000 and 1,200 engineers working on the modem chips for future iPhones.

Intel reiterated to Fast Company that its chips will be in mobile devices by 2020, but it doesn't plan to ship the 8160 5G chip until the second half of 2019. That would be too late for Apple to launch a new iPhone using the technology in 2019.

However, Intel's delays doesn’t necessarily mean we will have to wait until 2020 for 5G iPhones. It’s thought that while Apple intends to continue to use Intel to provide its 5G modem, the company does have a “Plan B” in the form of MediaTek who could also provide a 5G modem for future iPhone models (although that is an unlikely scenario), according to the Fast Company report from November 2018.

Samsung could also be in the running to supply 5G modems to Apple - but that company might want to keep the 5G tech to its own smartphones.

Reuters sources also confirmed back in January 2019 that Apple executives "have held talks" with Samsung and MediaTex relating to 5G modems for the 2019 iPhones.

Apple vs Qualcomm

The Apple versus Qualcomm case is the other major hurdle to Apple's plans for 5G handsets.

Prior to Apple's reliance on Intel for the modem in its iPhones the company was in partnership with Qualcomm, who were sole provider of wireless chips for the iPhone prior to 2016, and from 2016-2017 were providing chips alongside Intel.

We won't go in to too much detail about the spat between Apple and Qualcomm other than to say that since Apple stopped using Qualcomm chips in the iPhone the relationship between the two companies has broken down like a bad divorce.

We have both companies accusing the other of infringing on their own patents, Qualcomm claiming that Apple owes it money for royalties for using its tech, and the US Federal Trade Commission (FTC) suing Qualcomm for anticompetitive practices. And there's a whole lot more to the battle than that.

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Qualcomm is apparently refusing to supply Apple with chips while the legal battles between the two companies continue

Suffice to say Apple won't be using Qualcomm 5G modems in iPhones despite the fact that Qualcomm has already unveiled what it refers to as "the world's first 5G modem", the Snapdragon X50.
What is 5G?

5G is the successor to 4G. It should be able to offer download speeds of around 1Gb/s (gigabits per second) - maybe even 10Gb/s. That would make it possible to download am HD movie in just 10 seconds (rather than around 10 minutes as is currently the case).

It should also pave the way for new technological advancements such as driverless cars, as it will offer lower latency, which basically means less delay. That should also be good for online gaming, delivery drones and other things that require an always on connection.

You can also expect to see more in the way of VR and AR applications and IoT gadgets will become more common as more devices will be connected to the internet.

5G will use higher radio frequencies, which are less cluttered and can carry information faster. However, they don’t carry the information as far, so more antennas are needed.

And no, despite what Trump says, there is no 6G...




When will we get 5G?

Whether you will be able to access 5G networks in the near future depends on where you are based, and when coverage arrives, it is still likely to be restricted to major cities.

In some parts of the world 5G has already arrived - although coverage is likely to remain limited for some time. For example, in the US roll out for AT&T and T-Mobile have started and Verizon and Sprint’s 5G is expected in the first half of 2019.

In the UK 5G won’t be rolled out until late 2019, with EE saying that it plans to launch 5G in late 2019. EE, Vodafone and O2 are all running 5G trials. Other networks may not offer 5G until 2020. Expect coverage to be limited at first - you might have to wait until 2022 before 5G reaches you if you aren’t in a major city.

As for smartphones - Huawei, Oppo and Xiaomi are expected to launch 5G ready handsets early in 2019.
Will the iPhone XS work with 5G?

No existing iPhones will be able to use the 5G network. In fact, it looks like even the 2019 iPhone won't be able to use the 5G network.

However the iPhone XS and XS Max offer Gigabit LTE. If your carrier supports Gigabit LTE you could take advantage a faster connection and your phone should be better able to find and maintain the connection when the signal is weak.

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As the Apple-Qualcomm legal spat drags on, both companies have leveled various accusations against each other, claiming that the other has abused the market and various business practices towards its own ends.
Now, Apple is claiming that it would have loved to continue working with Qualcomm on modems — just loved to — but that it was forced to start second-sourcing from Intel as a result of Qualcomm’s intransigence on the modem issue. In fact, Apple’s shift to 5G has been delayed because it must rely solely on Intel modems, and Intel doesn’t expect to make the shift to 5G until 2020.
Apple COO Jeff Williams testified in court that his company has been unable to persuade Qualcomm to work with it after Apple filed lawsuits protesting Qualcomm’s licensing practices. “We have been unable to get them to support us on new design wins past that time [when Apple filed a lawsuit against Qualcomm],” Williams said. “This has been a challenge.” Apple is also contesting the amount of money it pays to Qualcomm on a per-iPhone basis, arguing that $7.50 is too high.

Intel versus Qualcomm performance on the iPhone X
The strategy, according to Williams, was to dual-source devices from both Intel and Qualcomm, continuing a plan Apple began following several years previously. “The strategy was to dual-source in 2018 as well,” Williams said Monday. “We were working toward doing that with Qualcomm, but in the end they would not support us or sell us chips… We would have loved to continue to have access to Qualcomm’s tech.”
I don’t doubt that this is true, as far as it goes. Having a deal with multiple suppliers is good for Apple and its ability to play them against each other. But would Apple have double-sourced its devices between Intel and Qualcomm if the former only had an LTE modem and the latter was ready to go with 5G services? That’s a lot less clear.
Historically, Apple has been so concerned about ensuring that its devices were on an even playing field, that it actually hampered the performance of its Qualcomm devices to ensure they had the closest feature set and capability list compared with Intel as possible, even when this meant disabling features and capabilities on the Qualcomm chips.
It seems telling that Williams references 2018, when Qualcomm didn’t have a 5G modem to ship. For 2019, Apple would’ve been stuck with the same unenviable set of choices: It could launch certain high-end flagship devices on a Qualcomm 5G modem (and advertised them as such), kept its entire product family back on LTE and shipped only some devices with a 5G modem that they didn’t actually use, or simply stuck with a dual-sourced LTE arrangement analogous to what it used in previous generations.
Qualcomm executives have publicly stated that they remain willing to work with Apple on a 5G solution, but the three-way lawsuit between the FTC, Qualcomm, and Apple makes it collectively unlikely that such a chummy agreement to the mutual benefit of all parties can be reached. Qualcomm wants Apple to pay a licensing fee based on the value of the final device, while Apple wants to pay based on the value of Qualcomm’s provided IP. Qualcomm claims Apple currently owes it $7B in unpaid licensing fees.
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Faggot phone using a mediatek chip? Is it a joke?

 

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Qualcomm president on Apple’s 5G modem ‘struggles’: They have our phone number


Friday, April 5, 2019 · 11:02 am · 6 Comments




“Apple is reportedly struggling with its effort to add 5G to next year’s iPhones,” David McCabe reports for Axios.

“Apple had used Qualcomm modem chips until 2017, when it started using a mix of Qualcomm and Intel before going all Intel with its 2018 lineup,” McCabe reports. “Qualcomm President Cristiano Amon said Thursday that the company would be happy to consider working with Apple on its 5G plans if their reported struggles to bring a product to market continue.”
McCabe reports, “On whether Qualcomm would work with Apple on 5G products: ‘We’re still in San Diego, they have our phone number,’ he said. ‘If they call, we’ll support them.'”
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Qualcomm President: Apple Has Our Phone Number If They Need 5G Modem for iPhones
Posted by Rajesh Pandey on Apr 05, 2019 in News, Qualcomm

A report from earlier this week claimed that Intel was lagging behind in its 5G modem development and that this had put Apple’s plan of launching a 5G iPhone in 2020 in jeopardy. Despite the legal battle between the two companies, Qualcomm’s president says that it is ready to supply 5G modem to Apple for 2020 iPhones.

Qualcomm’s President Cristiano Amon said that while “can’t really comment on what Apple is doing,” though he noted that the longer any company waits to release a 5G product, the higher will be the bar for them to match.

“We’re still in San Diego, they have our phone number,” he said. “If they call, we’ll support them,” Qualcomm’s President Cristiano Amon told Axios.​

Apple last sourced modem from Qualcomm for the 2017 iPhone variants sold in some parts of the world. For its 2018 iPhone lineup, the Cupertino company entirely switched to Intel’s modem.
Due to the ongoing legal issues between Apple and Qualcomm, the former is expected to source 5G modem for future iPhones from Intel only. However, as per reports, Intel is failing to meet the development deadlines which has put Apple in a fix. If Apple does not get sample chips by the second half of this year, it won’t be possible for the company to launch a 5G iPhone in 2020.
Apple itself is working on designing its own modem but that chip is still at least 2-3 years away from turning into a reality.
Our Take
It is unlikely that Apple will go back to Qualcomm for its 5G modem requirement. The company can very well delay the release of its 5G iPhone by a year but won’t source 5G modems from Qualcomm. Plus, 5G networks are still in nascent stages and they still have a long way to go in terms of adoption and coverage before the lack of 5G connectivity on iPhones will become an issue.
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A report earlier this week described Apple’s growing struggles to add 5G functionality to upcoming iPhones. Now, Qualcomm President Cristiano Amon has addressed Apple’s struggle amid the ongoing legal battle between the two companies.












Amon was asked about Apple’s 5G efforts and said that while he “can’t really comment on what Apple is doing,” it’s risky for any company to wait to introduce a 5G device. As reported by Axios, Amon explained that the longer a company waits to add 5G, the higher the bar will be for them to meet.
When asked whether or not Qualcomm would work with Apple despite the legal battle between the two, Amon was straight to the point: “We’re still in San Diego, they have our phone number,” he said. “If they call, we’ll support them.”
Meanwhile, speaking to The San Diego Tribune, Amon said that despite the “attacks” on its business model, Qualcomm has still been able to continue its strong engineering efforts when it comes to 5G.

“When Qualcomm had one of the biggest challenges in our history, with all the attacks on our business model, this is where our engineering culture shined most,” said Amon in an interview this week. “In the middle of all this, we actually accelerated 5G by one year.”​

The Qualcomm executive also said that 5G will do the same thing to video that 4G did for music. It will also allow “on-demand computing,” he said.

“4G completely changed music,” said Amon. “We stream music now. You don’t buy CDs. You don’t download songs. With 5G, that is going to happen with video.
“5G will allow on-demand computing. So you are connected to the cloud 100 percent of the time with unlimited data, unlimited storage and unlimited computing.”​

A trial between Qualcomm and Apple is slated to begin on April 15th in San Diego. The trial could include the testimony of Apple CEO Tim Cook and other Apple executives. The focus will be on Apple’s accusation that Qualcomm used a monopolistic position to ‘double-dip’ when collecting royalties from Apple

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Qualcomm Accuses Apple of Giving Its Confidential Source Code to Intel
Posted by Rajesh Pandey on Sep 25, 2018 in Intel, News,Qualcomm

Thought the legal battle between Qualcomm and Apple was over? Well, Qualcomm has made some explosive statements against Apple accusing it of stealing its trade secrets and source code and sharing it with Intel.


In its filing with the Superior Court of California, Qualcomm alleges that Apple has stolen “vast swaths” of its source code to allow for inferior quality Intel modems to catch up with that of Qualcomm in terms of performance.
The San Diego chip maker says that Apple prevented it from auditing the use of its source code which first led Qualcomm to sue Apple.
Now though, Qualcomm is accusing Apple of a far major wrongdoing. It alleges that Apple engineers shared Qualcomm’s source code and other confidential information with Intel engineers to help improve their baseband. There’s no evidence backing Qualcomm’s explosive statements, though it makes references to the back and forth communication between Apple and Intel engineers.

Qualcomm argues it was being prevented from auditing Apple’s use of its source code and sued. Now it is alleging a far larger misdeed: the stealing of that same source code and tools, for the express purpose of helping Intel overcome engineering flaws in its chips that led to their poor performance in iPhones.​

Qualcomm says that this issue stands on its own against Apple and the chip maker would have filed it in the court irrespective of whether the two companies were already battling it out in the court or not.

Monday’s filing can be seen as the latest salvo in that dispute, designed to put pressure on Apple to settle. But Qualcomm’s general counsel, Donald Rosenberg, told CNBC this case stands on its own and would have been filed regardless of the on-going dispute between the two companies.
“Unlawful use of Qualcomm’s valuable trade secrets to try to help a competitor catch up irreparably harms us and must not be allowed to continue,” he said.​

Our Take
If true, the revelations could definitely tilt the results in Qualcomm’s favor. Given that Apple wanted to reduce its reliance on Qualcomm for its modem requirement as soon as possible, it is possible the company’s engineers shared Qualcomm’s source code with that of Intel.
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Qualcomm Accuses Apple of Giving Its Confidential Source Code to Intel
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Intel 否認不能滿足 5G 版 iPhone 的要求，表示 2020 年可供貨！

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雖然 5G 時代快將來到，不少廠家開始研發及發佈 5G 手機，但是 Apple 暫時仍未選定 5G 基帶晶片的供應商。現時主要有兩家選擇，分別是高通及 Intel。高通因與 Apple 之間長期有專利法律問題，令到兩者之間關係一般般。而另一選擇的 Intel 在 5G 晶片方面發展卻比高通慢以致或拖累 5G 版 iPhone 的推出時間。

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目前有分析師帶來了新報告，指出作為 Apple 5G Modem 的主要供應商，Intel 將無法生產出滿足Apple 生產所需的 Modem。與此同時，蘋果不太可能與高通達成協議，因為兩家公司仍在全球各地的司法機構就版稅支付問題爭執不休。
相關新聞：高通：如果 Apple 打電話來就賣 5G 晶片給他！
前幾天一份 Intel 的公司報告透漏了一些信息，根據知情人的爆料，稱 Intel 原本是可以成為 2020 年iPhone 系列產品的唯一 5G Modem 供應商，但是現實是 Intel 錯過了開發 XMM 8160 5G 晶片的最後研發期限。要想達成在 2020 年 9 月 iPhone 發佈會之前向 Apple 交付大量 5G 晶片。 Intel 就需要努力在夏初前交付部分樣品，接著在 2020 年初交付完整的 Modem 設計。
對於此問題，Intel 發言人在聲明中稱：「正如我們在 2018 年 11 月所說，Intel 計劃在 2020 年推出其 XMM 8160 5G 多模式調製解調器，以支援客戶產品的發佈。」客戶一詞不用說，我們也已經清楚是 Apple 了。
所以根據 Intel 的官方描述，Apple 還是很有可能在 2020 年帶來支援 5G 的產品的。至於到時電訊商方面的配套是否完整，相信也會直接影響 Apple 的最終決定。
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Intel denied that it could not meet the requirements of the 5G version of the iPhone, indicating that it will be available in 2020!
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Although the 5G era is coming soon, many manufacturers have begun to develop and release 5G mobile phones, but Apple has not yet selected 5G baseband chip suppliers. There are currently two main choices, namely Qualcomm and Intel. Qualcomm has a long-standing patent law issue with Apple, which makes the relationship between the two generally. The other choice of Intel's 5G chip development is slower than Qualcomm or dragged down the launch time of the 5G version of the iPhone.
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Some analysts have brought new reports, pointing out that as the main supplier of Apple 5G Modem, Intel will not be able to produce the modem that meets the needs of Apple production. At the same time, Apple is unlikely to reach an agreement with Qualcomm because the two companies are still arguing over royalty payments in jurisdictions around the world.

Related news: Qualcomm: If Apple calls, he will sell 5G chips to him!

A few days ago, an Intel company report revealed some information. According to the insider's report, Intel originally claimed to be the only 5G Modem supplier for the 2020 iPhone series, but the reality is that Intel missed the development of the XMM 8160 5G chip. The final development period. To reach a large number of 5G chips delivered to Apple before the iPhone launch in September 2020. Intel needs to work hard to deliver some samples before the beginning of the summer, and then deliver the full Modem design in early 2020.

In response to this question, an Intel spokesperson said in a statement: "As we said in November 2018, Intel plans to launch its XMM 8160 5G multimode modem in 2020 to support the release of customer products." We are also aware of Apple.

So according to Intel's official description, Apple is still likely to bring 5G products in 2020. As for the completeness of the telecoms package, it is believed that it will directly affect Apple's final decision.
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Manufacturing Roadmap: Intel Is Falling Behind While AMD Might Have a Cost Problem
The 5nm semiconductor is denser and faster than 7nm. EUV continues to face headwinds
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Taiwan Semiconductors Manufacturing Co. (NYSE:TSM) recently divulged some details of its 5nm semiconductor process technology. The 5nm process will be 1.8x denser than the early 7nm process (used by Advanced Micro Devices), with a reduction of up to 20% in power at similar performance. Performance boost, in standard power terms, is expected to be 15% to 25% conditional on threshold voltage.
TSMC is already producing 7nm silicon parts at scale, with EUV-based (Extreme Ultraviolet Lithography) 7nm mass-production to kick in later. Note that EUV can boost performance and bring down costs due to elimination of multi-patterning required at leading edge semiconductor manufacturing. It seems that Taiwan Semiconductors is getting ahead of Intel Corp. (NASDAQ:INTC), as the company is eyeing the risk production of high-performance computing silicon with 5nm during 2019. Volume production of 5nm parts is expected in 2020.

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Scaling benefits aren’t the same as before
Density improvements aren’t materializing as they were in the past. TSMC more than tripled the transistor density when it jumped from 14nm to 7nm. In contrast, the density gains are less than double at 5nm when compared to 7nm. It seems that Moore’s law isn’t holding anymore.
Costs will trend higher until EUV-based volume production
Among other limitations of conventional lithography is the need for multi-patterning, which adds to the costs of production. EUV can eliminate the need for multi-patterning, resulting in cost saving. However, volume production is only possible with a use of a 250W to 300W light source. Although TSMC hit 250W during the second half of April, average daily power levels still stand at 145W. In simple terms, unless average power levels rise to 300W, the company won’t commit to EUV for mass production. This will continue to inflate costs due to the need of multi-patterning.
Power isn’t the only concern when it comes to EUV. Researchers have recently found random defects in EUV appearing at 5nm, which can affect yields making mass-production problematic. As the defects relate to 2020-bound 5nm, TSMC might not be able to follow its 5nm production roadmap. Given the newfound defects and limitations of current NXE 3400 EUV systems, 5nm mass-production using EUV power sources might not be possible in the near future.
Costs may come into play for Advanced Micro Devices
Advanced Micro Devices (NASDAQ:AMD) will potentially have higher production costs during the first round of mass production of the next generation Zen as the company is using TSMC's 7nm (without EUV) for volume production. This will pressure AMD’s margin, as the company usually competes on pricing.
Intel has a bigger problem though
Intel has always been at the leading edge of chip manufacturing. The company always stayed ahead of competition in terms of process density and chip performance. However, the landscape is changing. Intel has delayed its 10nm launch several times now. Intel’s process was consistently superior to other foundries at similar process node. However, foundries aren’t sticking to the same node. TSMC is mass producing at 7nm, which is transistor-dense compared to Intel’s 10nm. Now, with 5nm risk production in high performance computing during 2019, Intel faces serious competition because the transistor density of TSMC’s 5nm will be twice the density of Intel’s 10nm process. See the chart below:

Notes to the table: 5nm transistor density is projected from TSMC’s claim of 1.8x density improvement. Intel’s transistor density is extrapolated from using the past performance of Intel. GlobalFoundries’ transistor density is projected using the 7nm transistor density while using TSMC’s projected improvement as a proxy.
From TSMC’s disclosure about transistor density, the projected transistor density for 5nm is much higher as compared to Intel’s 10nm. Intel is still figuring out how to to roll out 10nm with the transistor density of 103 MTr/mm2, which is lower than the density offered by TSMC and Samsung at 7nm; 5nm is all together in a different league. In short, Intel should try to roll out earlier rather than later. Otherwise, Advanced Micro Devices is set to take market share in high performance computing amid the use of 7nm from TSMC and GlobalFoundries.
Takeaways
Although TSMC is touting the availability of EUV powered 7nm during the first half of 2019, power source problems and random defects might cause the timeline to shift further. As a result, costs will remain high, pressuring the margin of fabless manufactures like Advanced Micro Devices.
It’s too early to call on the mass-production of 5nm chips given the discovery of random defects that can potentially hurt yields. Nonetheless, 7nm remains a headache for Intel due to a higher transistor density. Intel will certainly lose market share if actual density of its 10nm falls behind the competition’s 7nm.
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Intel At Least 5 Years Behind TSMC and May Never Catch Up: Analyst

by btarunr Sep 28th, 2018 18:55 Discuss (39 Comments)

Intel's in-house sub-10 nanometer silicon fabrication dreams seem more distant by the day. Raymond James analyst Chris Caso, in an interview with CNBC stated that Intel's 10 nm process development could set the company back by at least 5 years behind TSMC. In its most recent financial results call, Intel revised its 10 nm outlook to reflect that the first 10 nm processors could only come out by the end of 2019. "Intel's biggest strategic problem is their delay on 10nm production - we don't expect a 10nm server chip from Intel for two years," analyst Chris Caso said in a note to clients Tuesday. "10nm delays create a window for competitors, and the window may never again close."

By that time, Intel will have missed several competitive milestones behind TSMC, which is in final stages of quantitatively rolling out its 7 nm process. Caso predicts that by the time Intel goes sub-10 nm (7 nm or something in that nanoscopic ballpark), TSMC and Samsung could each be readying their 5 nm or 3 nm process roll-outs. A Rosenblatt Securities report that came out late-August was even more gloomy about the situation at Intel foundry. It predicted that foundry delays could set the company back "5, 6, or even 7" years behind rivals. Intel is already beginning offload some of its 14 nm manufacturing to TSMC. Meanwhile, AMD is reportedly planning to entirely rely on TSMC to make its future generations of "Zen" processors.




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Jacob Ridley
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Is Intel’s CPU business crumbling under the 7nm pressure from AMD?
Intel is finding its 10nm process node shrink neither easy nor cheap, and that has resulted in a rocky year competing with Ryzen

Intel, the chip giant and x86 extraordinaire, is finding its 10nm process node shrink neither easy nor cheap. The past year has been incredibly rocky for the tech company, with reactive product launches, supply issues, and the beginnings of a downward spiral that financial institutions and some of Intel’s largest clients have started to take notice of. What a difference a single process node makes. But will Intel be able to bounce back?
Intel’s long-standing CEO, Brian Krzanich, is now long gone, its 10nm Cannon Lake parts severely delayed – or possibly cancelled in desktop form – security bugs run rampant through speculative execution, and its server business shows cracks as the company’s 14nm manufacturing reaches terminal velocity well under demand. Intel seriously can’t catch a break and it’s not a company used to being in the hot seat, either.
Intel has long thrived on being far ahead of any competitors, blinkers on, and charging ahead into the next breakthrough. But now that it’s under threat, it doesn’t look like Intel has much in the way of a coherent plan to deal with the newfound pressure. It’s become a reactionary company, chopping and changing products to deal with the realities of a market it’s looking out of touch with all of a sudden.

Take the soon to be released Intel Core i9 9900K and i7 9700K. Two processors that, if you didn’t know any better, seem like your everyday Intel launch on the surface. But, if you pop off that IHS – which isn’t going to be easy now that Intel’s returned to soldering its enthusiast chips – and take a look underneath, you’ll see the same cores Intel’s been rebadging since Skylake entered the mainstream market over three years ago.
Intel’s tick-tock launch cadence, architecture change followed by die shrink and so on and so forth, was actually working exceptionally well in the market Intel easily owned more than 80% of. That was soon thrown into disarray with the process-architecture-optimisation-ad-infinitum model, starting with Broadwell, then onto Skylake, Kaby Lake, Coffee Lake, and, soon enough, the Coffee Lake refresh. If all goes to plan we’ll be back to process by the holiday season at the end of next year.

But it’s been AMD’s Ryzen processors that cranked up the pressure on Intel to sort out its launch cadence problem. Launched back in April 2017, Intel stormed ahead with its 14nm Coffee Lake chips – though supply was tight from day one. Only in April was Intel’s Coffee Lake lineup completed, replete with chipsets and the full breadth of chips finally on the market. By that time, however, AMD was ready for round two of Ryzen – seemingly also inheriting Intel’s old, level-headed approach to consistent and incremental product launches. AMD is on track for an estimated 30% of the global CPU market by the end of the year.
If that’s not enough of a beating, AMD then plonked Threadripper 2 on the stage at Computex, sporting 32 cores and 64 threads in a single air-cooled package. Intel, with a rather bizarre response, decided to overclock a server chip live on stage, keeping it an inch from combustion by an industrial chiller which sucked enough juice to wipe out the electrical grid if you decided to put the kettle on for a cuppa.


AMD’s EPYC chips have also been taking it to Intel in arguably the most important market segment to these x86 chipmakers’ businesses: the data centre. While Intel’s market dominance has been around the 99% mark for years, EPYC server chips have been making appearances across data centres of some of the most prolific clients across the globe. Intel, it seems, can’t manufacture enough chips to meet demand.
Aside from the security flaws, most of these issues can be attributed to a single problematic process: 10nm. That’s why Intel, for all its technical expertise and R&D leadership, will not go down without a fight. Historically, it’s not that easy to keep a good chip maker down. While the company and its investors might only look at its bottom line, the engineers that work at Intel are some of the best around and that’s been enough to keep momentum going.
Most of Intel's issues can be attributed to a single problematic process: 10nm




Intel might look like it’s crumbling under the pressure right now – it seems that the company had long-standing roadmaps that weren’t prepared for a troublesome node – but the company’s previous experience in this pressurised position led to one of the strongest CPU microarchitectures ever conceived: Core.
The Core microarchitecture was born from the hazy days of the NetBurst microarchitecture, during which time AMD was royally sticking it to Intel with its Athlon chips and their integrated memory controllers. But Intel, with its expansive reach and R&D budget, swiftly found an alternative in an originally mobile-designated microarchitecture. And that went on to become the basis for the company’s highly-successful product lineup for the next twelve years.
And Intel’s got options today, too. The new approach from the company, heterogeneous computing, blends CPUs, GPUs, FPGAs, and ASICs with the ‘fabric’ to stitch it all together – such as the EMIB found on Kaby Lake G chips. Intel is a company that knows how to cover its bases for almost every eventuality. I say almost, because I don’t believe for a second anyone planned for a cockup of 10nm proportions, but it’s a company with options, money, and, crucially, talent.

With some of the best engineers in the biz over at Intel, is this slow down then more a sign of a bigger issue surrounding the development of ever more dense process nodes, all while maintaining profitability? Rival foundry TSMC seems to be breezing onto 7nm and beyond without issue, but GlobalFoundries, AMD’s sole foundry for the past few years, has dropped out of the 7nm race entirely – practically losing AMD to TSMC in the process. It seems 7nm too has proven a troublesome and divisive node.
What is evidently clear is that the next CEO – whoever that may be after Intel’s long and ongoing talent search – has to be able to swivel the slow-moving behemoth away from, what many perceive to be: the end of Intel.
It’s most definitely not, Intel has the smarts within the business to get itself out of this mess. The new boss, however, will have to action the company’s new roadmaps and follow through on the machinations Intel undoubtedly has in store to combat AMD on the CPU front. It also has a fresh battle on the horizon, taking on the might of AI-powerhouse Nvidia in the discrete graphics game with its own 2020 GPU. But it has to take on both companies in a far more cohesive fashion than it’s doing right now… or else face underdog status for the next decade.
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