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Huawei closes technology gap with Apple on chip design

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Huawei closes technology gap with Apple on chip design
Chinese 4G semiconductors already 'equal to or better than' US tech giant
SHUHEI YAMADA, Nikkei Asia Tech chief editor April 24, 2019 18:14 JST


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A chip from Huawei subsidiary HiSilicon is displayed at the Huawei China Eco-Partner Conference in Fuzhou, Fujian province, on March 21. © Reuters

SHANGHAI/TOKYO -- Top Chinese telecommunications equipment maker Huawei Technologies is closing the gap with Apple to develop some of the world's most advanced smartphone chips, on a par with those used in the U.S. tech giant's iconic iPhone, an independent analysis shows.

As the era of fifth-generation wireless networks begins, a break down of Huawei's Mate 20 Pro and Apple's iPhone XS -- both premium 4G smartphones -- shows that the Chinese company's main chip, combining processors and modems, is the equal of Apple-designed semiconductors.

The evidence suggests that in 5G chip technology Huawei could be capable of rivalling Qualcomm, the world leader in mobile chips, whose semiconductors are crucial to Apple's plans for a 5G iPhone. The Chinese company last week boasted it could supply 5G chips to Apple, which recently settled a long-running royalty dispute with Qualcomm.

Both Huawei and Apple-designed chips showed equally advanced features, according to an analysis by Tokyo-based teardown specialist, TechanaLye. Each had a line width of 7 nanometers. A thinner line width means the chips have greater computing and energy-saving capacities. Only three kinds of 7-nm chip were in practical use at the end of 2018, TechanaLye said.

Huawei's development capacity was "equal to or better than Apple's and occupies the world's top level," said TechanaLye CEO Hiroharu Shimizu, a former senior technology executive at Japanese chipmaker Renesas Electronics.

Huawei designs semiconductors at its wholly-owned subsidiary HiSilicon Technologies, founded in 2004. HiSilicon is a fabless chipmaker, meaning the company does not operate its own production. Its technology and scale of operations remain shrouded in secrecy because HiSilicon discloses little information to the media, including for this report.

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At this point, Qualcomm and Huawei appear to have the lead in designing 5G-compatible processors. Qualcomm led the market in 4G modems, while a few players such as HiSilicon, Taiwan's MediaTek and Intel has the capability of 4G modem as well.

HiSilicon is unlikely to be selling its cutting edge smartphone semiconductors to third parties, although it has begun to sell chips for other products. According to marketing material obtained by Nikkei, Huawei's secretive chipmaking arm sold more $1 billion worth of chips to companies outside its own group in 2017. U.K. research company IHS Markit estimates that HiSilicon's sales totaled $4 billion in 2017.

The document also indicated that HiSilicon had sold chips for televisions and security cameras. The unit set up a booth to showcase its TV chips at the China Content Broadcasting Network expo in Beijing in late March.

The Huawei unit still lags Qualcomm in scale -- HiSilicon's 2018 sales are estimated at $5.5 billion, against about $16.6 billion for the U.S. chipmaker -- but it is growing quickly.

Huawei began developing its own chips back in the early 1990s at the predecessor company to HiSilicon. But recently its efforts have come under fire in the trade war between China and the U.S., which has sought to halt Beijing's drive to become self-sufficient in the technology crucial to cutting edge innovation. "This is in contrast to [Chinese telecom device maker] ZTE, which was cut off from chip procurement as a result of U.S. sanctions" last year, notes Gu Wenjun, chief analyst at Shanghai-based semiconductor industry researcher ICwise.

Despite its fast growth, HiSilicon does not design and make chips by itself. The company uses intellectual property under license from U.K.-based chip designer Arm Holdings, which is partly owned by Japan's SoftBank Group. It also outsources manufacturing to Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., the world's largest contract chipmaker.

HiSilicon's reliance on Taiwanese production could be a concern for the company if the U.S. pressures Taipei to follow its efforts to shut out Chinese technology. Earlier this year, Huawei asked its suppliers to allocate more production to China, the Nikkei Asian Review reported.

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they have spies in and all over apple.

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-huawei-tried-to-discover-apple-secrets-2019-2
Grilling ex-employees in job interviews and interrogating suppliers: How Huawei tried to discover Apple's secrets
Isobel Asher Hamilton, Feb. 19 2019

The Chinese phone giant Huawei's attempts to unearth secrets about Apple were laid bare in a report by The Information published Monday.

The report said that a Huawei engineer attempted to pump an Apple supplier for information about the Apple Watch, as well as that former Apple employees were grilled during job interviews.

Citing messages it saw, The Information said that when a Huawei engineer set up a meeting last November with an unnamed executive at an Apple supplier, the engineer dangled a potential deal with the supplier.

"Our design is similar to Apple's," the engineer wrote in a text, according to The Information. "Let's first talk generally about the cost of a prototype before we provide the schematic." They added that sales of Huawei's wearables were expected to hit 1 million, the report said.

The engineer arrived at the meeting along with four Huawei researchers. Huawei's representatives then spent an hour and a half trying to pump the supplier for information, according to the report. "They were trying their luck, but we wouldn't tell them anything," the supplier said.

When contacted for comment by The Information, Huawei denied any wrongdoing. Huawei repeated this when contacted by Business Insider, and a spokeswoman for Huawei issued the following statement:

"Huawei requires its suppliers to uphold a high standard of ethics, including signing our Honesty and Integrity Agreement or entering similar commitments, and expects its suppliers to honor their confidentiality obligations to their other customers when communicating with Huawei. In conducting research and development, Huawei employees must search and use publicly available information and respect third-party intellectual property per our Business Conduct Guidelines. Huawei does not seek or have access to our competitors' confidential information."

This is not the first time Huawei has been accused of trying to dig up information on a US rival. The US charged Huawei in January with trying to steal trade secrets from T-Mobile, specifically information about a robot named "Tappy."

Read more: Huawei is accused of attempting to copycat a T-Mobile robot, and the charges read like a comical spy movie

The Information further reported that Huawei grilled former Apple employees for information about the company's technology in job interviews.

One former Apple worker said they were asked repeatedly about Apple's upcoming products and features. "It was clear they were more interested in trying to learn about Apple than they were in hiring me," they said.
 

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they have spies in and all over apple.

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-huawei-tried-to-discover-apple-secrets-2019-2
Grilling ex-employees in job interviews and interrogating suppliers: How Huawei tried to discover Apple's secrets
Isobel Asher Hamilton, Feb. 19 2019

The Chinese phone giant Huawei's attempts to unearth secrets about Apple were laid bare in a report by The Information published Monday.

The report said that a Huawei engineer attempted to pump an Apple supplier for information about the Apple Watch, as well as that former Apple employees were grilled during job interviews.

Citing messages it saw, The Information said that when a Huawei engineer set up a meeting last November with an unnamed executive at an Apple supplier, the engineer dangled a potential deal with the supplier.

"Our design is similar to Apple's," the engineer wrote in a text, according to The Information. "Let's first talk generally about the cost of a prototype before we provide the schematic." They added that sales of Huawei's wearables were expected to hit 1 million, the report said.

The engineer arrived at the meeting along with four Huawei researchers. Huawei's representatives then spent an hour and a half trying to pump the supplier for information, according to the report. "They were trying their luck, but we wouldn't tell them anything," the supplier said.

When contacted for comment by The Information, Huawei denied any wrongdoing. Huawei repeated this when contacted by Business Insider, and a spokeswoman for Huawei issued the following statement:

"Huawei requires its suppliers to uphold a high standard of ethics, including signing our Honesty and Integrity Agreement or entering similar commitments, and expects its suppliers to honor their confidentiality obligations to their other customers when communicating with Huawei. In conducting research and development, Huawei employees must search and use publicly available information and respect third-party intellectual property per our Business Conduct Guidelines. Huawei does not seek or have access to our competitors' confidential information."

This is not the first time Huawei has been accused of trying to dig up information on a US rival. The US charged Huawei in January with trying to steal trade secrets from T-Mobile, specifically information about a robot named "Tappy."

Read more: Huawei is accused of attempting to copycat a T-Mobile robot, and the charges read like a comical spy movie

The Information further reported that Huawei grilled former Apple employees for information about the company's technology in job interviews.

One former Apple worker said they were asked repeatedly about Apple's upcoming products and features. "It was clear they were more interested in trying to learn about Apple than they were in hiring me," they said.
 

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Faggot phone chips are a joke. Their phone specs are always lower than android phones. So to say catching up is a joke. Huawei has already surpassed faggot phones
 
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