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Engineer complains 20 months jobless as of Oct 2010.

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How long were you jobless?

I have been jobless for 20 months as of Oct 2010.

What is your past profession and qualification? Your last drawn salary?

I was a semiconductor Process and Equipment Manager working with a multinational company. I have 2nd Upper honours degree in engineering from a reputable UK university. My annual pay is around 100K. My boss and boss’s boss are all foreigners. My boss has 4 years of working experience whereas I have over 13 years in this field of work. He is definitely not a ‘talent’ in mine and my colleagues’ opinion.

What problems did you face while searching for jobs? Was age always the problem or are there other reasons?

Age is one of the stumbling block for me – even though I have accumulated over 10 good years of working experience and another 20+ years to go in my working life according to the government retirement age.

There is just no opportunity given to people like me who has crossed 40, even if I am willing to lower my pay by 20-30%.

Another obstacle is the hiring manager – most of them who conducted the interview are ‘FT”. Personally, I feel that they are gathering information (pay range and knowledge from me), and likely to give preference to their own ‘kind’ (race) or other ‘FT”.

Even if the hiring manager is a local, there is no guarantee that they will hire a local simply because there is no incentive to hire a local or any quota to adhere to.

To make it worse, we locals have to fulfil many obligations like reservist training and have to leave office on time or not too late to take care of other family matters like our young children. Where as in the ‘FT’ case, they do not have Reservist disruption and most of their family are back in their country. They can afford to even ‘camp’ in office or stay until midnight.

You can say that we are not hungry enough to go to that extend. But these FTs normally would stay for 3-5 years and then move on to other better paying jobs in other countries. But we are not likely to do so.

I have tried to lower my expectations by applying for an engineer’s role – many times the employer would just say they will keep me posted. After a few rounds, I probed further and they told me that with my qualifications and experience I should be looking for a job of a higher level and give other people a chance to apply for lower level jobs. But the question is who is going to give me that chance!

How did your family cope while you stay jobless?

My wife is now the sole breadwinner for the family now. I was very depressed at the beginning because I had worked so hard and made many sacrifices to reach this level. Now I just have to accept my predicament and move on, I strongly believed that no one is going to help me if I do not stand on my own feet. So, I just have to find my own way to make money to provide for my family.

Are there financial problems now?

Yes, we have financial problems too. We just have to adjust our finances to cope with our situation. We have to make do with what we get every month and try to reduce our expenses to carry on living our life. One way is to look for cheaper alternative for those daily necessities and buy more during discounts and promotions.

How do you think the government can help this huge pool of jobless PMETs?

1. The government should restrict the number of foreigners into the country and also set a quota for the number of foreigners for each company, like 25 percent or something. We invite MNCs to invest in Singapore to give us job, not to give jobs to foreigner or act as a training center. This might be a myopic view, but if we cannot feed ourselves do you think we should be concerned about providing jobs for other people?

2. We should amend our retrenchment laws, regulate the retrenchment compensation and benefits BY providing higher payout to discourage retrenchment exercise and continue medical coverage until we secure the next employment. The current laws are too lax and it doesn’t offer sufficient protection for the PME group.

3. A possible solution is for the company to reduce the number of working days to ride out any future downturn than retrenching staff quickly because there will always be downturn. Moreover, nowadays, the business cycle is getting shorter and more frequent. The economy also fortunately recovers faster after every downturn. For example, my ex-company after laying us off, was hiring again within 6 months after retrenching staff.

4. On top of that, restrict HDB ownership to Singaporeans only. If our PRs want to buy properties they should go to private properties. If not, the cost of basic housing in Singapore will go up due to the demand from PRs. The HDB housing is meant for Singaporeans but now the foreigners are pushing up prices with their purchases. With higher housing price, can we afford to live with a lower salary? We have 30 years of housing instalment to pay and it is so difficult to get a job nowadays despite all our qualification and experience!

Lastly, I hope that the government will seriously look into helping this huge group of highly-educated experienced jobless professionals.

Thanks!

Regds,

James (not his real name)

PS: James is contemplating starting a small engineering business on his own – Gilbert
 
I was a semiconductor Process and Equipment Manager working with a multinational company. I have 2nd Upper honours degree in engineering from a reputable UK university. My annual pay is around 100K. My boss and boss’s boss are all foreigners. My boss has 4 years of working experience whereas I have over 13 years in this field of work.

He should sell everything and emigrate.
 
These are the people who'll always support and vote for the PAP gov...so it's wake up time now!
 
He should have at least $1 million in assets which he should liquidate so he can move on to the next chapter of his life.

And yes.. .he should thank the PAP for grossly inflating the value of his home.
 
How come PAP did not pick up such talented sinkie? many many high paper qualis for fuck. This chap did not por lum par PAP if not he will ask to become MP.
 
Not surprising ....:o

Many engineers in their 40s and 50s driving taxis and work as Security Guards .....:(
 
That is why few now are interested to do engineering courses at the polys and universities.

In the 80s, engineering graduates are much sought after by our young ladies at SDU activities.

At that time, our engineering boys are damn ya-ya, looking down on arts or business graduates considering them softies.
 
This why I discourage my children to stay away from any engineering and science based courses...
 
This why I discourage my children to stay away from any engineering and science based courses...

You should encourage your children to pursue their dreams. Those who are passionate about what they're doing will invariably achieve success regardless.
 
If his annual pay is $100K, he should have at least $500K to $1mill to liquidate. What is he complaining about?:confused:
 
Lastly, I hope that the government will seriously look into helping this huge group of highly-educated experienced jobless professionals.

This guy just doesn't get it. In S'pore, your career advances until you cross the 40-year-old mark — you can be an engineer or manager or whatever at that point — but from there on it's downhill all the way.

You first become a clerk to be ordered around by the younger guy who took your place; you may think that's bad but enjoy the aircon office while you still have it. Because after this your subsequent career path would be: cab driver for Comfort, cashier at McDonalds, security guard at Tuas, cleaner at Joo Chiat hawker center.

Assuming that you don't interrupt the natural process of things by jumping in front of an MRT train, at 75-years-old or so, you'd probably be pushing a cart around collecting cardboard boxes and soda cans.

Vote the PAP for more good years and a Swiss standard of living.
 
while he was enjoying his $100k job, did he anticipate that such fate will befall onto him? i have seen so many of my colleagues are doing well now and wouldnt think about the future. but when the shit hits the fan, then they will kpkb.
 
I have 2nd Upper honours degree in engineering from a reputable UK university. My annual pay is around 100K. My boss and boss’s boss are all foreigners. My boss has 4 years of working experience whereas I have over 13 years in this field of work. He is definitely not a ‘talent’ in mine and my colleagues’ opinion.

It seems like nowadays, everyone has a Master degree in something.

If working 4 years can become a semiconductor Process and Equipment Manager's boss, that person definitely has talent.

$100k annual pay is good if the person is doing a $100k job. Otherwise, we will know what happen.
 
I think this is his Karma - doing good deeds have good life, doing bad things will have bad life. Cannot be an engineer can also be a taxi driver, and can write blogs to make himself popular.
 
How come PAP did not pick up such talented sinkie? many many high paper qualis for fuck. This chap did not por lum par PAP if not he will ask to become MP.

hi there


1. aiyoh! he should join the rc to get closer to sheep mah!
 
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