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Corruption in SCDF and CNB

Goh Meng Seng

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Generous Asset
It is of course political here. As I have said, if these two scholars are really corrupt, do you think they will just stop at having a few bangs, that's all?

There are lots of opportunities within their portfolio for them to be corrupted. Apparently, they have tried to minimize political damage by choosing the least evil...

Goh Meng Seng

Sexual favor in offcial capacity is corrupt practice under the purview of CPIB. If there's evidence of cash transacted, more charges will be preferred. Super intelligent scholars or super idiots are corrupt? Both are not surprising to me. It has nothing to do with politics. By linking them to politics, you're just upplaying your legal ignorance and favorable image of PAP impartiality.
 

Ramseth

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Asset
It is of course political here. As I have said, if these two scholars are really corrupt, do you think they will just stop at having a few bangs, that's all?

There are lots of opportunities within their portfolio for them to be corrupted. Apparently, they have tried to minimize political damage by choosing the least evil...

You should apply for a job at CPIB if you want to investigate such cases. As far as I'm concerned, let the investigation officers do their jobs.

Your logic of you sex, therefore you should also want money has no legal ground to stand on. The word should be could. Yes, you could have wanted money too, but must investigate for evidence first. Investigation is still ongoing as I know. And you're already jumping up and down passing judgment.
 

Goh Meng Seng

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Generous Asset
It has full logic. Big time robbers and scums are normally people with high intelligent. Why go for petty theft when you take the same amount of risk but having higher returns by doing it big?

These two chaps are scholars. I don't think that they are so dumb. As Scroobal and GD have said here that there are past cases where people are let off, it would not be surprising that selective prosecution is used to minimize impact. It is a reasonable doubt here because we are not dealing with some small fly... let's put it this way, even small fly clerk is bold enough to go for hundreds of thousands of CBT or bribes!

Goh Meng Seng


You should apply for a job at CPIB if you want to investigate such cases. As far as I'm concerned, let the investigation officers do their jobs.

Your logic of you sex, therefore you should also want money has no legal ground to stand on. The word should be could. Yes, you could have wanted money too, but must investigate for evidence first. Investigation is still ongoing as I know. And you're already jumping up and down passing judgment.
 

Ramseth

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Asset
The investigation is still ongoing. I won't be surprised if more offenses are uncovered, neither am I siding them.
 
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aurvandil

Alfrescian
Loyal
There is something about the two corruption cases I do not understand. Perhaps one of the bros here familiar with police investigative procedure can help me.

Straits Times has published an article which says the corruption is because of a mystery woman who is involved with both men.

She apparently works for a top American multinational firm, one that supplies IT-related products and services to several government offices including MHA and SCDF.

While Mr Lim and Mr Ng were both unaware of each other's dealings with the woman, they have both confirmed their relationship with the woman in statements to the Corrupt Practices Investigation Bureau (CPIB).

http://www.asiaone.com/News/Latest+News/Singapore/Story/A1Story20120126-323957.html

Seperately, Today published a statement from CPIB which indicated that the investigations were seperate.

The pair, who are now out on bail, are "continuing to assist the Bureau in separate investigations", the CPIB said.

http://www.todayonline.com/Singapore/EDC120126-0000064/Former-SCDF,-CNB-chiefs-out-on-bail

Since both cases involved the same woman, why is there a need for seperate investigations?

To get a holistic picture of the wrong doing and see if there is a consisten pattern, surely it would make more sense for a single investigation. Can any bros explain this?

Also under the PCA, is the woman bribe giver guilty of anything? Can they chose to prosecute the two men but let the woman go free?
 
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Windsor

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Bro Scrobal and TRE have suggested otherwise. The SCDF case involves purchase of a product from a San Diego IT company listed on Nasdaq. A Singapore GLC is said to have done the SI. The info in AsiaOne does not seem correct as the San Deigo IT company does not have any deals of size with CNB. The GLC however does. I suspect our msn is trying to hide the GLC involvement at this point in time. How they can do this when it goes to Court is beyond me ...

Do you know who heads the GLC's? All those heading the GLC's report to? Put 2 and 2 together and you will know that the GLC is not directly involved and not the employer of the lady concerned. The GLC may be involved insomuch as either being the company that will install, service and maintain the equipment. The US IT company is the main contractor to supply and deliver. This makes sense to me, but we need to wait for the case to be fully revealed before we know for sure.
 

aurvandil

Alfrescian
Loyal
The veil begins to lift on the mystery woman at the heart of the two corruption cases. Notice the careful use of the words "not aware". The leading candidate in the rumour mill is a VP with a legal background that does market development.


ST Electronics "not aware" that any staff called up to assist with CPIB probe

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1179179/1/.html


SINGAPORE: ST Electronics said it's "not aware" that any of its staff has been called up by the Corrupt Practices Investigation Bureau (CPIB) to help with investigations.

Its spokesperson was responding to media queries over reports that one of its staff is believed to be involved in the probe into former chiefs of the Singapore Civil Defence Force and Central Narcotics Bureau.

Former SCDF commissioner Peter Lim, and former CNB director Ng Boon Gay, were arrested under the Prevention of Corruption Act, over allegations of "serious personal misconduct".

Both men are now out on bail.

They are said to have been in a close working relationship with a female IT executive at a company that supplied IT-related products and services to several government agencies.

Their cases are believed to be linked to tenders awarded to the company.

Online forums are abuzz over the identity of this mystery woman, and focus has turned to ST Electronics - a major IT provider to several government agencies.

In 2009, it clinched a S$34 million contract from SCDF to build a command and control system.

One media report on Thursday said that an ST Electronics staff is assisting with investigations.

ST Electronics denies knowledge of this.
 
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po2wq

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Asset
The veil begins to lift on the mystery woman at the heart of the two corruption cases. Notice the careful use of the words "not aware". The leading candidate in the rumour mill is a VP with a legal background that does market development ...
do cpib officers visit ze coy 2 "invite" ze woman back "2 assist" in investigations? ...

otherwise, dey can owways craim "not aware" ...
 

Merl Haggard

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Asset
Lee Khoon Choy is highly valued by old man for weaning away the teachers from Barisan and the communist control. He went into MOE and re-jigged the entire structure and systematically removed all the ringleaders and principals who were communist sympathisers ormleft leaning especially from the Chinese schools. he also led the deal that fixed Singapore and Indonesia relationship after Singapore hanged their commandoes. Politically he would be one of old man trusted lieutenants. Interestingly he argued with old man when JBJ was not allowed to work with grassroots and Rcs after he became MP. Later in life Old man called him and screwed the shit out of him for marrying his maid.


Bro,

KC Lee was demoted from Minister of State to ambassador and was posted to Saudi Arabia for about 8 years. E W B felt that after so many years in
Saudi Arabia, KC Lee should be familiar with the Muslim culture and hence he was the best candidate to help win back Suharto's friendship with old fart.

Eddie recommended to old fart to have KC Lee posted to Jakarta to be S'pore's ambassador of Indonesia in the early 70's and his main duty was to win
back Suharto's friendship.

After about 5 years in Jakarta KC Lee not only succeeded in winning back Suhatro, he also introduced Suharto's personal dukun (clairvoyant) to old fart.

Old fart rewarded KC by reinstating him to the post of Senior Minister of State, a post he held until his retirement.
 

zeddy

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Asset
Bro,


After about 5 years in Jakarta KC Lee not only succeeded in winning back Suhatro, he also introduced Suharto's personal dukun (clairvoyant) to old fart.

Old fart rewarded KC by reinstating him to the post of Senior Minister of State, a post he held until his retirement.


Very very interesting info... Used to read somewhere that past Indonesian presidents like Sukarno and Suharto who are of Javanese descent were ardent followers of Javanese mysticism so that they can maintain their political supremacy.. Didn't know that the Old Fart is also believer in Javanese hocus pocus..
 

Narong Wongwan

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Asset
Very very interesting info... Used to read somewhere that past Indonesian presidents like Sukarno and Suharto who are of Javanese descent were ardent followers of Javanese mysticism so that they can maintain their political supremacy.. Didn't know that the Old Fart is also believer in Javanese hocus pocus..
anything to do with him and mahathir meeting up for last gathering on Suharto's death bed?
 
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Merl Haggard

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Very very interesting info... Used to read somewhere that past Indonesian presidents like Sukarno and Suharto who are of Javanese descent were ardent followers of Javanese mysticism so that they can maintain their political supremacy.. Didn't know that the Old Fart is also believer in Javanese hocus pocus..


http://www.fengshuimastery.com/master_hung.html


Old fart had no choice. He had to turn to Suharto's personal dukun for guidance after The Chief Abbot of Kong Meng San, Grandmaster Hong Choon whom he had betrayed, refused to have anything to do with him.
 

Windsor

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Asset
So far this is the latest news:


http://news.omy.sg/News/Local+News/Story/OMYStory201201261505-307229.html
本地新闻
Local News <dl id="publish"><dt class="first">日期:
26/01/2012
</dt><dt class="first">新闻来源:</dt></dl>
【民防总监肃毒局长接受调查事件】
涉案IT女郎长发披肩 外号“水查某”




[h=5]意外组报道[/h] 前民防总监林新邦,和肃毒局局长黄文艺被调查丢官一案震惊全国,强卷入案件的神秘IT女执行员,如今成了关键人物,让人关注。
经过连日的打听,这名神秘的女执行员身份已经有了眉目。
根据晚报掌握到的消息,女执行员拥有大学学历,离婚有孩子,她的身材娇小,长发披肩,浓眉大眼,说话嗲声嗲气,跟男人讲话时总会不经意地触碰对方,对虏获男人的心很有一手。
根据记者亲眼目睹的照片,女执行员虽然已经40来岁,但她驻颜有术,颇有姿色,爱穿低胸装和紧身衣,在同行间素有“水查某”(即“漂亮女人”的意思)的称号。
据了解,女执行员扮演的是“中间人”角色,负责招待重要客户。女郎前夫指她温柔娴淑。完整报道,请翻阅26.01.2012《联合晚报》。

google translate:

Local News

Date:
26/01/2012
News Source:
United Evening News


[Civil defense director, Narcotics Secretary polled events]
IT involved in long-haired girl nicknamed "beautiful woman"

Accident group reported

Former civil defense director Lin Xinbang, and Narcotics Bureau, yellow art lose their jobs under investigation case shocked the nation, strong involvement in the case of the mysterious woman IT executive officer, has become the key, of concern.

After days of asking, this identity of the mysterious female executive officer has been taking shape.

According to the Evening News to grasp the message, female executive member with a university degree, divorce with children, she's petite, long hair, thick eyebrows, childish talk, speech always be with a man inadvertently touch each other, the capture the hearts of men very hand.

According to Reporters witnessed pictures of female executive officer Although 40 years old, but her beauty has surgery, quite pretty, wearing low cut dress and tights, among peers known as the "beautiful woman" (or "pretty woman "means) of the title.

It is understood that women play an executive officer is the "middleman" role, is responsible for entertaining important clients. Girl ex-husband that her gentle Xianshu. The full report, please refer to 26.01.2012 "United Evening News."
 

Merl Haggard

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Very very interesting info... Used to read somewhere that past Indonesian presidents like Sukarno and Suharto who are of Javanese descent were ardent followers of Javanese mysticism so that they can maintain their political supremacy.. Didn't know that the Old Fart is also believer in Javanese hocus pocus..

BTW, Suharto was earmarked to be killed together with the six generals during the coup and it was his dukun who saved him by advising one day earlier that he must go out into the open sea in a sampan and remained there for at least 48 hours.
 
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erection2015

Alfrescian (InfP) + C
bro looks like its corruption in SCDF and CNB using CCB :rolleyes:

So far this is the latest news:


[Civil defense director, Narcotics Secretary polled events]
IT involved in long-haired girl nicknamed "beautiful woman"

Accident group reported

Former civil defense director Lin Xinbang, and Narcotics Bureau, yellow art lose their jobs under investigation case shocked the nation, strong involvement in the case of the mysterious woman IT executive officer, has become the key, of concern.

After days of asking, this identity of the mysterious female executive officer has been taking shape.

According to the Evening News to grasp the message, female executive member with a university degree, divorce with children, she's petite, long hair, thick eyebrows, childish talk, speech always be with a man inadvertently touch each other, the capture the hearts of men very hand.

According to Reporters witnessed pictures of female executive officer Although 40 years old, but her beauty has surgery, quite pretty, wearing low cut dress and tights, among peers known as the "beautiful woman" (or "pretty woman "means) of the title.

It is understood that women play an executive officer is the "middleman" role, is responsible for entertaining important clients. Girl ex-husband that her gentle Xianshu. The full report, please refer to 26.01.2012 "United Evening News."
 

Windsor

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
bro looks like its corruption in SCDF and CNB using CCB :rolleyes:

Yes looks like it is between SCDF and CNB, both smittened by one pretty CCB so now both arrested by CPIB. The MIW will now increased the pay of all civil servants plus more perks, which will be in the form of a pool of CCB's to make use of as their form of entertainment. Like this now no more cases of corruption of money or pussies.:biggrin:
 

laksaboy

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Asset
Yes looks like it is between SCDF and CNB, both smittened by one pretty CCB so now both arrested by CPIB. The MIW will now increased the pay of all civil servants plus more perks, which will be in the form of a pool of CCB's to make use of as their form of entertainment. Like this now no more cases of corruption of money or pussies.:biggrin:

Why chow CB? Why not phang CB?

If a woman eats well, practises good hygiene and stays stress free, her CB will smell heavenly... just like new car smell.
 
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