China claims Super computer Crown

[pallkia]

As usual... stealing foreign technology and then trying to claim credit.

The Chinese really are pathetic. If they had any pride, they'd design their own processors.

Hey postal Boy,You are very fortunate to live together with the Chinese in this part of the World,otherwise u will be living in Slum back in your Heritage country (South Asia).It is a steal for you.

You better be satisfied staying as a postal boy ,even mat has no chance to be a postal boy in S'pore.

 

[Leongsam]

Hey postal Boy,You are very fortunate to live together with the Chinese in this part of the World

Thankfully, that's no longer the case. I would hate to have to mingle with cheats and con artists on a daily basis.

 

[Narong Wongwan]

I've seen various companies...Cray, NEC, IBM etc claiming credit. This is the first time I've seen a COUNTRY on the list.

All it does is reveal a deep seated inferiority complex. It did the same thing when it put a man in space using obsolete SOVIET hardware.

And 50 years late to boot!
I did not understand what the fanfare was about back then.......

 

[Zombie]

I've seen various companies...Cray, NEC, IBM etc claiming credit. This is the first time I've seen a COUNTRY on the list.

i thot it is just the way of reporting (unless there is a pic showing Mao beside the supercomp waving his hands with pride )

eg http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3993409.stm

US top of supercomputing charts
Blue Gene snatches the crown from Japan
The US has pushed Japan off the top of the supercomputing chart with IBM's prototype Blue Gene/L machine

maybe ppl becomes more sensitive once they log into sbf

 

[Ramseth]

The Chinese really are pathetic. If they had any pride, they'd design their own processors.

Gordon Gekko (Wall Street): "I don't create things, I own things."

ROC Acer bought TI and PRC Lenovo bought IBM. Why reinvent the wheel? Just buy it, hub, spoke and tyre, lock, stock and barrel.

 

[Maximilian Chua-Heng]

I concur. It's all about economic prowess these days.

Poor Leongsam, a spiteful kid who F9ed his Chinese stuck in a grown man's body.

But hey it's not all bad for him. His ranting does generate enuff heat to keep his forum going.

Gordon Gekko (Wall Street): "I don't create things, I own things."

ROC Acer bought TI and PRC Lenovo bought IBM. Why reinvent the wheel? Just buy it, hub, spoke and tyre, lock, stock and barrel.

 

[Kid278]

Gordon Gekko (Wall Street): "I don't create things, I own things."

ROC Acer bought TI and PRC Lenovo bought IBM. Why reinvent the wheel? Just buy it, hub, spoke and tyre, lock, stock and barrel.

That's the problem, they cant invent and they dont innovate. Until they do, they'll always be behind.

 

[Ramseth]

That's the problem, they cant invent and they dont innovate. Until they do, they'll always be behind.

They'll come in front after every dirty job is done, then they buy the new product. For thousands of years, China was famous for invention and innovation. Then the westerners came and took over. Now they know, owning is better than creating. Only those who don't own things need to create to make a living. Keep your money and keep a look-out, at the appropriate time, buy them over. After all, it's money that they want and you have. You're still ahead in the game no matter what they create.

 

[Agoraphobic]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11644252

For a poor country that is just USD3600 per capita income behind Thailand and Malaysia is not bad.This is another achievement after last week revelation of the World's fastest bullet train plying Shanghai and Hangzhou unmatched even by Japan and Germany!

For a poor country, emphasis should be on ensuring baby milk powder is made with the baby in mind first, not supercomputers, fastest this, tallest that. Their efforts seem to be focused on grandiose in engineering feats.

I recently had a visitor from PRC who's here to promote her company's goods - I'll just say it's processed primary raw materials. While sending her to the airport, I asked if she had anythng she wanted to do before her flight and she said yes, she'd like to buy baby milk powder so I took her to Cold Storage. She bought a few cans. The rest of the journey, I kept our conversation to potentials I'll take her product samples to but I really wanted to ask about the milk. Out of my own reluctance that I might tamper on anything sensitive, I stayed away from the reason she bought those items as I already suspect I know why; it is quite obvious isn't it?

USA and Russia both raced for space supremacy - the prize (or reward, if you like) is national pride. And the price was heavy. I think they've both matured (or sobered, if you like) to this. There are more pressing things for society (eg. should the Pakis and Indians have built the bomb?).

Maybe I'm getting too old, but to quote an older person, "The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the one." Mr. Spock, from The Wrath of Khan.

Cheers!

 

[Kid278]

You're still ahead in the game no matter what they create.

I dont see how they can be ahead when what they know is acquiring other's technologies. At most they look at the present, the future they have a long way to go. Mao set them back for half a century, they have to remember that.

 

[hokkienpeng]

With a very basic knowledge of networking and plenty of money, I could easily assemble a computer cluster of home computers and claim the crown from the pathetic Chinks.

If it's as simple as that, Singapore would have the world's fastest super computer.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/28/technology/28compute.html

The Chinese system follows that model by linking thousands upon thousands of chips made by the American companies Intel and Nvidia. But the secret sauce behind the system — and the technological achievement — is the interconnect, or networking technology, developed by Chinese researchers that shuttles data back and forth across the smaller computers at breakneck rates, Mr. Dongarra said.

“That technology was built by them,” Mr. Dongarra said. “They are taking supercomputing very seriously and making a deep commitment.”

The Chinese interconnect can handle data at about twice the speed of a common interconnect called InfiniBand used in many supercomputers.

 

[GoFlyKiteNow]

The speed with which China appropriates the intellectual property of countries like Japan and Germany is indeed unmatched.

How much faster?
NUDT claims the machine is 1.4 times faster than Cray XT5 Jaguar. NUDT claims that the computer's peak performance can hit 1.206 petaflops and jogs along at 563.1 teraflops.

To do this, the Tianhe-1A system covers a square kilometer, weights in at 155-tons and uses 14,336 Intel Xeon CPUs and 7,168 Nvidia Tesla GPUs.

The software behind it? Linux of course. Linux has long been the operating system of choice for the world's fastest computers.

 

[GoFlyKiteNow]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11644252

For a poor country that is just USD3600 per capita income behind Thailand and Malaysia is not bad.This is another achievement after last week revelation of the World's fastest bullet train plying Shanghai and Hangzhou unmatched even by Japan and Germany!

U.S. unfazed by announcement Chinese have fastest supercomputer

State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley dismissed the advancement, saying he was confident the U.S. could regain the lead.

"I wouldn't call this a Sputnik moment," Crowley said, referring to
the Russian craft that became, in 1957, the first artificial satellite to
orbit the Earth and made many Americans worry that the U.S. was
losing its competitive edge. "We have very significant capabilities
in this regard, and I have no doubt the scientific community will
pick up the challenge," Crowley said.
.

 

[hahaho]

How much faster?
NUDT claims the machine is 1.4 times faster than Cray XT5 Jaguar. NUDT claims that the computer's peak performance can hit 1.206 petaflops and jogs along at 563.1 teraflops.

To do this, the Tianhe-1A system covers a square kilometer, weights in at 155-tons and uses 14,336 Intel Xeon CPUs and 7,168 Nvidia Tesla GPUs.

The software behind it? Linux of course. Linux has long been the operating system of choice for the world's fastest computers.

So,
Hardware: from USA
Software: from USA

Then, assembly is from China.

 

[pallkia]

You are not so updated ,in the recent Chinese parliament meeting they have already have plan to further reduce poverty and raise standard of living which also means better rules of law

For a poor country, emphasis should be on ensuring baby milk powder is made with the baby in mind first, not supercomputers, fastest this, tallest that. Their efforts seem to be focused on grandiose in engineering feats.

I recently had a visitor from PRC who's here to promote her company's goods - I'll just say it's processed primary raw materials. While sending her to the airport, I asked if she had anythng she wanted to do before her flight and she said yes, she'd like to buy baby milk powder so I took her to Cold Storage. She bought a few cans. The rest of the journey, I kept our conversation to potentials I'll take her product samples to but I really wanted to ask about the milk. Out of my own reluctance that I might tamper on anything sensitive, I stayed away from the reason she bought those items as I already suspect I know why; it is quite obvious isn't it?

USA and Russia both raced for space supremacy - the prize (or reward, if you like) is national pride. And the price was heavy. I think they've both matured (or sobered, if you like) to this. There are more pressing things for society (eg. should the Pakis and Indians have built the bomb?).

Maybe I'm getting too old, but to quote an older person, "The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the one." Mr. Spock, from The Wrath of Khan.

Cheers!

 

[Agoraphobic]

You are not so updated ,in the recent Chinese parliament meeting they have already have plan to further reduce poverty and raise standard of living which also means better rules of law

I hope this time they keep their promise. The Great Leap and Cultural Rev were supposed to have done that. And today, the majority of those who have reached middle class in PRC work for foreign MNCs and have a good grasp of English to land a job in those companies.

If there's anything we can pinpoint that keeps anyone from moving forward (or with the rest?) is ethnocentricity. This was clearly depicted in the Opium Wars of the mid-1800s. Let's not go back there.

Cheers!