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acester

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I dun understand why u guys just dun wanna sign up with me as member. I have already assured u guys the membership is free. U wanna go LW, LongJie or whatever all can be arranged. We even have credit facilities. Just sign up. U guys wont lose anything. www.grandsapphire.com. Select my name "Ace Yap" as the Client Relations Executive.
 

justl00king

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Would like to try Long Jie.

Does anyone know what are the ferry charges for Long Jie ?

Do they have ( n how much) the same scheme as LW where the ferry charges can be waived with changing of non-negotiable chips?

tks for help. :smile: :smile:
Bro,

Normal days $60 ferry, rolling $250 gets $300 NN chips.

Thursday night CNW $38 ferry no rebates.
 

silverfox@

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I dun understand why u guys just dun wanna sign up with me as member. I have already assured u guys the membership is free. U wanna go LW, LongJie or whatever all can be arranged. We even have credit facilities. Just sign up. U guys wont lose anything. www.grandsapphire.com. Select my name "Ace Yap" as the Client Relations Executive.

Bro,

why do I sense "aggressiveness" in your words?

You have done your marketing, you have done your part, let people decide whether they want to sign up under you as their junket or even apply for free membership.

If we don't wish to gamble, even the casino can't force us to go in. :wink:
 

sohbuckkong

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I dun understand why u guys just dun wanna sign up with me as member. I have already assured u guys the membership is free. U wanna go LW, LongJie or whatever all can be arranged. We even have credit facilities. Just sign up. U guys wont lose anything. www.grandsapphire.com. Select my name "Ace Yap" as the Client Relations Executive.
Gambling is a very sensitive and confidential thing. Henceforth you must be trusted b4 they will put their personal particulars in your hand. People are not stupid. All that you have written is judge. Just like some Minister had said "If you give us peanuts, you will also receive peanuts."

Now I would like to ask you a very simple question, tell us why we should use your service to go to longjie, Leisure world or royale when we can use our current existing junkards.
 

rofthelper

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i been to LW ship abt 6mth ago. didnt like it cos the place quite old to me.

Would like to try Long Jie.

Does anyone know what are the ferry charges for Long Jie ?

Do they have ( n how much) the same scheme as LW where the ferry charges can be waived with changing of non-negotiable chips?

tks for help. :smile: :smile:

I think Long Jie is $50 for the ferry, you pay $200 for the chips, get $250 of rolling chips.

Check their schedule here:
http://www.singaporecruise.com/cruiseschedule.aspx
 

Natural Nine

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I think Long Jie is $50 for the ferry, you pay $200 for the chips, get $250 of rolling chips.

Check their schedule here:
http://www.singaporecruise.com/cruiseschedule.aspx


Hi , just to share from my experience i guess LW is more popular then LJ is because LW got more tables and many of my friends like the "insurance" element in the baccarat tables which all tables have in LW but insurance betting is only carried out by junkets at LJ (as of last yr i was there) . i must also add that no doubt LJ has better and new nicer cabins newer facilities but all these most players hardly use as they go to WIN only... LJ food also better most of the time though ...:smile:
 

silverfox@

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Gambling is a very sensitive and confidential thing. Henceforth you must be trusted b4 they will put their personal particulars in your hand. People are not stupid. All that you have written is judge. Just like some Minister had said "If you give us peanuts, you will also receive peanuts."

yes, I agree, gambling is sensitive and confidential. That is why junkets mostly bring clients based on friend-friend relationship or kakis or business deals, that is people they knew for sometime. If I am a junket, I also don't want to bring people I don't know to a casino. Bringing good clients to a casino, junket reputation will be good. Benefits and deals between junket and casino will be better and in turn the junket can pass these better deals to the clients.
 

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We kept going to these casinos because these casinos gives us the absolute freedom to come and go. Hows your luck lately. Im doing quite ok.

Ok, fine tuning the count system to enhance winning rate.

Total 8 deck cards, around 30 hands, we would have about close to 3 deck of cards out. With 3 decks out, remaining left 5 decks. In statistics, casino's edge will be lower against us, our chances are higher, if we can hit the right ones.

Actually, you can try using a deck of cards and take out some numbers, you will be surprised that with certain cards out of deck, probability of opening banker is higher or when certain cards out, opening player is higher. Play over 10 games and you will see a thrend. I am still working it out over 8 decks, so not really full steam on playing these days, just trial and error testing it out.
 
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hmm i see from the Schedule long jie is not departed everyday?

so normally wat is the timing?

go 8am come back 10pm?
 

sohbuckkong

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Actually, you can try using a deck of cards and take out some numbers, you will be surprised that with certain cards out of deck, probability of opening banker is higher or when certain cards out, opening player is higher.
What numbers to take out? I use my program to run.
 

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Tan Kin Lian on December 13th, 2008 10.04 am

Hi Partisan (#79)

The casinos are regulated and the odds are fair. They can be calculated. The margin is fair.

For people who likes to gamble, go for the roulette. There are 37 numbers (0 to 36) and you get a 35 chips for every 1 chip that that you bet.

If you bet the whole table, you spend 37 chips and get a return of 36 chips. The cost of betting is 1 in 37 or 3%.

The other games have bigger margins for the house, but they are regulated and can be calculated. It is not betting, but not cheating.

Many financial products take away high charges. These charges are not disclosed and cannot be calculated (e.g. the odds of losing all your money on a credit event) or on a dual currency investment. The amounts that are being “cheated” are shocking!

http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/12/stop-cheating/#comments
 

0939

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Any strategy for playing Roulette?
I have been thinking of these two methods.
1st: Play two chips on 1-12 and 3 chips on 19-36, lets say $20 per chip, total 5 chips=
$100. If win, keep on playing. If lose total $100. So next round bet $500. 2 Chips $200 and 3 chips $300. If win you recover your earlier loss and start over again on $20 chips.
2nd: Play 2 chips of $50 on 1-12, 2 chips of $50 on 25-36 (1 win 2)and 2 chips on black (1 win 1). In another word, you cover 32 numbers. YOu only lose on 4 red (middle row) and zero. If the number falls on 1-12 and 25-36 and red you break even. If it is black you win $100 and the other 12 middle row 4 black you lose $50. You have about 66% odd of winning.

From what I see, if you win in the beginning, target your amount and stop.
 

silverfox@

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Any strategy for playing Roulette?
I have been thinking of these two methods.
1st: Play two chips on 1-12 and 3 chips on 19-36, lets say $20 per chip, total 5 chips=
$100. If win, keep on playing. If lose total $100. So next round bet $500. 2 Chips $200 and 3 chips $300. If win you recover your earlier loss and start over again on $20 chips.
2nd: Play 2 chips of $50 on 1-12, 2 chips of $50 on 25-36 (1 win 2)and 2 chips on black (1 win 1). In another word, you cover 32 numbers. YOu only lose on 4 red (middle row) and zero. If the number falls on 1-12 and 25-36 and red you break even. If it is black you win $100 and the other 12 middle row 4 black you lose $50. You have about 66% odd of winning.

From what I see, if you win in the beginning, target your amount and stop.

Scenario 1,
numbers not bought are 13,14,15,16,17,18
Let's think of the bad scenario.
1 round open 17, lose 100
2nd round continue, open between 13-18, lose 500, total will be 600

Will you add on again or will you go back to start?
If you add on, you will be reaching table limit fast.
If you go back to start, every round you win, will allow you to lose up to 6 times.

Scenario 2,

is based on increasing your hit rate, but your payout rate is in fact reduced.
If it hits the 4 numbers that had no cover, you lose 100%.
It's like the payout in soccer.

You take Man Utd win at 1.65.
Higher chance of MU win, that's why odds low, but payout is not 1 pay $2
Even those at $1.03 does not mean sure win, its just high hit rate but low payout and probably have to hit many times to cover a loss
 

silverfox@

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Tan Kin Lian on December 13th, 2008 10.04 am

Hi Partisan (#79)

The casinos are regulated and the odds are fair. They can be calculated. The margin is fair.

For people who likes to gamble, go for the roulette. There are 37 numbers (0 to 36) and you get a 35 chips for every 1 chip that that you bet.

If you bet the whole table, you spend 37 chips and get a return of 36 chips. The cost of betting is 1 in 37 or 3%.

The other games have bigger margins for the house, but they are regulated and can be calculated. It is not betting, but not cheating.

Many financial products take away high charges. These charges are not disclosed and cannot be calculated (e.g. the odds of losing all your money on a credit event) or on a dual currency investment. The amounts that are being “cheated” are shocking!

http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/12/stop-cheating/#comments

If a person has $50,000 to invest, and $50,000 to play in a casino,

$50,000 dump in one time to buy shares or whatever bonds, probably now either the bond is dead or the share have 60% wiped off.

However, if you take $50,000 go and play in a casino, one time placing bets of $20-$50, you will definitely not have 60% wiped off.

People who have more than 60% wiped off or even 100% is because they placed bets one time which is $1000 up. Of course, lose also will lose fast, win also will win fast based on capital
 

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Hi all brothers, first of all wishing everyone a Merry Christmas!

I am sorry for the late reply as I was onboard LJ for the last 2 days due to work purpose.

In reply to bro silverfox, I just like to explain that I was not trying to be aggressive. However, if my message does come across as aggressive, I apologized. All I wanted to relate across was for those brothers who are confused on ferry timings and booking procedures, to join me as member in The Grand Sapphire. Because once they do that, they would not have such headache in future as we will be there to explain and do the booking for them. Its just a phone call away.

In reply to bro Sohbuckkong, I am not here to say The Grand Sapphire is better than other junket companies. Its because we are not a junket company. We are a gaming and hospitality management group. Its like all the 5 stars hotel out there. Each hotel has their own regular customers. However, we can’t say one hotel is better than the other. I can only explain the different services we provide and its for all brothers here to guage.

i) We do not short change our members. Rolling commission is according to market rates. However, we do give better rates to some high rollers.
ii) We provide credit facility to members without charging interest
iii) We are already in talks with the 2 IRs in Singapore to see what benefits our members can enjoy in the future when they open
iv) We will hold gambling competition and networking events for members to attend
v) Besides all the major cruises, we can arrange trips to casinos in almost all part of the world without members having to fret over the arrangement. And yes, rollings and insurance arrangement can be made wherever members fly to
vi) Besides gaming activities, we also provide personal concierge services like booking of concerts, air tickets, tours and hotels and etc.

And I am talking about joining The Grand Sapphire as member without any fee. If the deal is not good, I wouldn’t have come in here in the first place to recommend it.

Hope I have clarify things better this time. Have a joyous festive season everyone.
 

sohbuckkong

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Any strategy for playing Roulette?
I have been thinking of these two methods.
1st: Play two chips on 1-12 and 3 chips on 19-36, lets say $20 per chip, total 5 chips=
$100. If win, keep on playing. If lose total $100. So next round bet $500. 2 Chips $200 and 3 chips $300. If win you recover your earlier loss and start over again on $20 chips.
.......
May i know what would be your plan if you continually lose 2 times. 1st time lose $100, 2nd time lose $500, total lose $600.

To lose 3 times continuously is also very practically possible. So if lose 3 times continuously would lose $3600. See the statistics here http://goldcup.110mb.com/cgi-bin/bet 30 numbers max lose continueosly.pl
 
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sohbuckkong

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Hi.....
In reply to bro Sohbuckkong, ....I can only explain the different services we provide and its for all brothers here to guage.

ii) We provide credit facility to members without charging interest
.............v) Besides all the major cruises, we can arrange trips to casinos in almost all part of the world without members having to fret over the arrangement. And yes, rollings and insurance arrangement can be made wherever members fly to
..........ne.

The above is good news to casino gamblers.

I am going to Macau on the 9th Jan '09. My purpose of going to Macau is both for leisure and also to gamble. If I can get a free complimentary room in Sands, Lisboa, or Venetian, that would be great. Please advice what are the things required of me, for me to do, to receive those complimentary rooms.
Thanks
 
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