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Jail for member of syndicate that won S$433,730 at MBS casino by using baccarat 'formula'

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Jail for member of syndicate that won S$433,730 at MBS casino by using baccarat 'formula'

Tan Kian Yi, a 35-year-old Malaysian, was sentenced to three years and four months' jail on Wednesday (Nov 22).

The court heard that Tan, a sales manager, was part of a syndicate comprising five other members from Malaysia and Taiwan.

He first met two of them - Hung Yu-Wen and Chou Yu-Lun, a couple from Taiwan - in the Philippines in August 2022.

Hung asked Tan if he was interested in winning money in a game of baccarat. She knew Tan had an interest in card counting and that he had attended a class on advantage play in 2019.

The class was held in Taipei, and taught people how to count cards, how the interior of a shuffler machine looked like and how it worked.

Hung then told Tan that she was going to Singapore to do a survey on how the game of 7UP Baccarat was played at the Marina Bay Sands casino.

Tan agreed to join her there, as he wanted to learn how to win money through the game.

In October 2022, Tan and the couple met in Singapore, staying at the MBS hotel and visiting the casino to observe how the game was played.

They met a month later at a casino in Manila, where Hung told Tan she had a formula that could enable them to win the game.

The formula was developed by a man she called her "teacher", and the syndicate intended to use this formula to skew the odds of the game in its favour.

Hung showed Tan the formula on her laptop. It was in the form of an Excel sheet, and Hung showed Tan how to use it.

She gave him a set of codes to memorise, referring to the values and suits of the cards in the game. She also told Tan that he should key the codes into the sheet after someone else transmitted the information to him.

To use the formula, the syndicate would need someone to transmit information on the cards dealt to the person operating the formula, who would key in the values into the Excel sheet.

The formula would then predict and generate the game's next outcome.

At this, Tan asked if his friend, 45-year-old Malaysian Chai Hee Keong, could join the syndicate.

Hung agreed and promised to give Tan and Chai 20 per cent of the syndicate's winnings.

She created a group chat on LINE, with a Chinese name that described a "work group" in Singapore.

The chat was used to keep track of how much capital each syndicate member started off with, the time they clocked in and out at the table, as well as the winnings or losses made.

The group arrived in Singapore in December 2022 to execute their plan. They were assigned roles to play – ranging from a marksman, a sorcerer, a tank and an auxiliary.

Tan was both a marksman and a tank. In the first role, he would be stationed in a hotel room where he received information that he keyed into the formula and told the sorcerer how to bet.

The sorcerer was a female member of the syndicate who wore Bluetooth-connected earphones hidden by her long hair, so she could communicate with the marksman.

Tan's second role involved him placing high bets at the table based on instructions relayed to him by the sorcerer.

Each of the syndicate's members started off with S$100,000 worth casino chips.

Over several days in December 2022, they received winnings from their games using their scheme. At one point, one of the other members wanted to know how the formula worked as he felt very impressed by it, but Hung did not want to share the specifics with him.

Between Dec 16 and Dec 23 last year, casino employees began to take notice of the syndicate's conduct, by going through closed-circuit television footage.

On Dec 24, 2022, one of the members went alone to the casino to gamble. He was taken to a room by security officers and the police later arrested him.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/f...-casino-3938776
 
The bloody casino is a sore loser. If the reported headline will read "won S$433,730 at MBS casino", where then is the cheating? The key word is "won" not "cheated".
 
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Card counting is NOT cheating. Card counting is simply using your brain, like a winning chess player. Fortunately, using your brain is still perfectly legal
 
Technically, counting cards is not illegal in most countries. You can count cards at the table as a lone player and bet based on the calculated odds.

Though as a single player you can't control the odds too much.

But the law is broken when people conspire to win with external help via data transmission.
 
Technically, counting cards is not illegal in most countries. You can count cards at the table as a lone player and bet based on the calculated odds.

Though as a single player you can't control the odds too much.

But the law is broken when people conspire to win with external help via data transmission.

Team work should be recognized. It is recognized in every office, so why not in the casino? Investment firms have research team, so why not a gambler at the casino?
PAP just does the casino's bidding.
 
Team work should be recognized. It is recognized in every office, so why not in the casino?
.... so by extension, gang rape is a commendable practice

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I don't gamble at casinos. But what's so illegal about this scheme?

It uses card-counting to increase probability through a syndicate effort. This is outright illegal.

For individual card-counting, as long as you know how to conceal your calculations and don't keep winning, the casino will let you off. Else every casino have the right to ban any card-counting individuals as they have an unfair advantage over the dealer and other patrons.

The only thing that is legal to the casino and under the law is when you go in and depend completely on luck with zero edge in winning.

So even slot-machine observation by syndicate to count no. of pulls to predict the next jackpot is also disallowed and illegal. Previously an Australian syndicate using this method was caught and jailed already.

Else if such practice is allowed, eventually the casino would lose their edge and become bankrupt.

Remember, the very fact that casino is allowed to operate here and everywhere else is because of lucrative taxes to be earned by the local government.
Taxes are earned by making sure gamblers will eventually lose all the time with zero edge. So it's either gamblers die or casino die.

In this business model, gamblers must always die and continue to be arse-farked by casinos so that the music can continue to sing to feed earnings to the Gov.
 
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It uses card-counting to increase probability through a syndicate effort. This is outright illegal.

For individual card-counting, as long as you know how to conceal your calculations and don't keep winning, the casino will let you off. Else every casino have the right to ban any card-counting individuals as they have an unfair advantage over the dealer and other patrons.

The only thing that is legal to the casino and under the law is when you go in and depend completely on luck with zero edge in winning.

So even slot-machine observation by syndicate to count no. of pulls to predict the next jackpot is also disallowed and illegal. Previously an Australian syndicate using this method was caught and jailed already.

Else if such practice is allowed, eventually the casino would lose their edge and become bankrupt.

Remember, the very fact that casino is allowed to operate here and everywhere else is because of lucrative taxes to be earned by the local government.
Taxes are earned by making sure gamblers will eventually lose all the time with zero edge. So it's either gamblers die or casino die.

In this business model, gamblers must always die and continue to be arse-farked by casinos so that the music can continue to sing to feed earnings to the Gov.
Wtffffff
Got secret code is illegal? :confused: :thumbsdown:
@NanoSpeed
Your urgent expertise on legal matter Pertaining to gambling s required.
 
Wtffffff
Got secret code is illegal? :confused: :thumbsdown:
@NanoSpeed
Your urgent expertise on legal matter Pertaining to gambling s required.
I'm no legal expert. I'm only an expert in the area of annulment of marriage on the grounds of non-consummation :biggrin:

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This appears very similar to cheating in an examination. In other words, if the person betting on the floor (the 赌神) had not communicated with anyone, especially outside the casino, and 赌神 was able to memorize by heart the secret code in the form of Excel spreadsheet, he did not commit any offence. He would have been a real 赌神 and revered by all the patrons in the casino. He would have walked out of the casino as 四哥.
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Smarter than them also cannot? No cheating or whatsoever :confused: :thumbsdown:

Your 'smarter' if means you discovered some kind of loophole which you can exploit to your advantage with an edge over the house, then it will become illegal.

'Smarter' is only legal if you lose less in the short-term but still eventually lose in the long run. Anything else is illegal, LOL.
 
Your 'smarter' if means you discovered some kind of loophole which you can exploit to your advantage with an edge over the house, then it will become illegal.

'Smarter' is only legal if you lose less in the short-term but still eventually lose in the long run. Anything else is illegal, LOL.
I discovered soccer matches, including Olympics are fixed is also a offence wtf
 
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