Budwig Diet- Meals that are anti-cancer, anti-diabetic...

[kingrant]

There would have been no arguments if TS had said he saw the Budwig thing on cancer cure and that there's no harm if we all gave it a try. But to insist it is authentic when it is patently not, was unnecessary. Having said that, it takes all kinds of people to make a forum!

 

[johnny333]

There are 3 things that grabbed my attention. First, based on past posting I am aware that he is obsessed with alternative Medicine and prone to hoaxes. Not uncommon with those who are ageing and have had serious condition. Then I saw 95% cancer cure plus the Nobel prize nominations. First post and its straight hit. Then the 2 resident villages idiots turned up. Talking about lining your ducks in a row. I got same problem with 2 clowns within extended family. $3k magnetic mattress "certified" by non existent Japanese Research Lab.

At least now you are being honest about where you stand with regards to alternative medicine.

That's your choice to make but I think there's alot more people out there looking at the alternative route. I've gone through the "approved" medical route in Spore for my heart problems & I know how expensive & ineffective it can be. You use derogatory terms as hypochondriac, village idiots, etc. It's only a matter of time before you or someone you know ends up victims of our medical system then I expect you'll change your tune

For those with an open mind, if you need clarification on the protocol you can PM me. I purchased the DVD which is pretty good in explaining the whole protocol

 

[johnny333]

There would have been no arguments if TS had said he saw the Budwig thing on cancer cure and that there's no harm if we all gave it a try. But to insist it is authentic when it is patently not, was unnecessary. Having said that, it takes all kinds of people to make a forum!

No one can guarantee when it comes to a medical condition, including doctors. Before my angioplasty I had to sign an agreement not to hold the hospital responsible for any mishaps
There was a long list of things that can go wrong even though it was considered a minor procedure e.g. burst vessel, allergic reaction to the dyes, infection, etc

 

[johnny333]

95%+ success rate for cancer and you got two well known village idiots supporting you. Need I say more.

If you think it's some kind of scam. Tell me how would the various authors of the website(s) supporting the Budwig protocol make money from their victims

 

[johnny333]

This thread is so interesting. I have come across so many urban legends, scams, and false cures for cancer on the internet as well as thru email chains. They are hard to prove, as there's always an escape clause that you didnt do it correctly etc.
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You may be interested in the following youtube movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZTFqKMlCCo

There's alot of vested interest to suppress cheap viable cancer cures

 

[kingrant]

The medical and health auths and community shld warn (they cannot suppress as it is futile) about shams and bogus medicine that pass off as authentic cures or lay unsubstantiated claims. The wiki on Nobel prizes website you quoted actually said that nominees are kept confidential even from the nominees for 50 yrs, so you actually shot yrself in the foot. That means, nobody in his right mind can claim he was a NP nominee, and if he did so, he has suspect credentials.

Personal testimonies from lay people are also not reliable. There is such a thing as the Placebo effect. That's why clinical trials always have a control lot. If somebody esp one with a miracle cure wants to make claims of 95% cure rate, it is up to the person to prove it beyond doubt. We have pointed out two chinks in the armour of so-called reliable sources, so that is enough to prove it is not authentic. The critics and sceptics do not have to prove that those who supported the same bogus claimant have benefited from it.

You may be interested in the following youtube movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZTFqKMlCCo

There's alot of vested interest to suppress cheap viable cancer cures

 

[kingrant]

Remember the cure presecription I mentioned? Well, all my bros, sisters, uncles and aunties, my old classmates from high school, university, my ex- and present colleagues - they all can testify to the effectiveness. Now, why dont you go check whether everyone of them is benefiting in any way from supporting me? Get the picture?

If you think it's some kind of scam. Tell me how would the various authors of the website(s) supporting the Budwig protocol make money from their victims

 

[tonychat]

I think you might be right. I remember in a previous thread he criticised chelation & he brought up a case of some doctor allegedly over charging some patient. Don't know how the topic of scamming got entangled with chelation

Chelation is a common procedure & if you think you are being overcharged simply shop for another doctor. That's what I did, went to Malaysia for my chelation treatments because it was cheaper than Spore. I also said NO to my Spore cardiologist & went elsewhere

Normal people will just read and move on. This sinkie nutcase hang on to it and hold deep grudges on whatever he disagree with. His kind of situation need professional help. And somemore, whatever he says is a done deal, he expect everyone to agree with him. Any other condition that need therapist help.

For me , i bash sinkie is to help to lower the dumbfuckness and cowadice of sinkie, it is a noble, selfless deed.

He fight and challenge for his own egoistic self, that needs professional help.

 

[tonychat]

If you think it's some kind of scam. Tell me how would the various authors of the website(s) supporting the Budwig protocol make money from their victims

Hey man, do what you think is right. personally, i dun believe much of those mumbo jumbo medical shit by those so called proper legal proven medical establishment and authority. They have use the chemo thing on cancer patient and they still die in the end. So .. you call that effective cure?

Everyone can try out new things and i thank bugwig for her effort and i will sure to try it out.. All those drug that are created outside are there for profit only.. Bugwig is not a doctor but a bio-chemist. Her way of finding out the problem of cancer is different from the medical field. So those from the medical field will use their medical ideas, beliefs and education ( a closed mind) to see her work, so you can expect tons of disagreements from them.

If her methods is so wrong, why isn't she is being charged in court after a number of attempts to charge her are unsuccessful.

Does her method caused any complications to patients? Their conditions has articles showing that it improves.

You are right that Scrool-balless should go to the bugwig centre and fired those guys if he is so sincerely think that it is so wrong and it is a scam. but my experience with sinkies tells me that he is just here to show other how high and almighty he is and expect others to bow to him. Try asking me to bow, he will see what he will get from me.

 

[middaydog]

This thread is so interesting. I have come across so many urban legends, scams, and false cures for cancer on the internet as well as thru email chains. They are hard to prove, as there's always an escape clause that you didnt do it correctly etc.

I have been thru this route before, there were people from this big chain _ GCC or GNN ( can't remember the name correctly ) they hovered around like vulture

and then there was a guy stationed himself in front of NCC giving out flyers

 

[Ramseth]

I have been thru this route before, there were people from this big chain _ GCC or GNN ( can't remember the name correctly ) they hovered around like vulture

and then there was a guy stationed himself in front of NCC giving out flyers

You should try Yunnam or Beijing 101. My ponytail is getting too long. I don't need to try these.

 

[middaydog]

nowaday I wear wig, it's easier to manage and can change color as you like

 

[Ramseth]

nowaday I wear wig, it's easier to manage and can change color as you like

OK but, nothing's like the real thing.

 

[johnny333]

The medical and health auths and community shld warn (they cannot suppress as it is futile) about shams and bogus medicine that pass off as authentic cures or lay unsubstantiated claims. The wiki on Nobel prizes website you quoted actually said that nominees are kept confidential even from the nominees for 50 yrs, so you actually shot yrself in the foot. That means, nobody in his right mind can claim he was a NP nominee, and if he did so, he has suspect credentials.

Personal testimonies from lay people are also not reliable. There is such a thing as the Placebo effect. That's why clinical trials always have a control lot. If somebody esp one with a miracle cure wants to make claims of 95% cure rate, it is up to the person to prove it beyond doubt. We have pointed out two chinks in the armour of so-called reliable sources, so that is enough to prove it is not authentic. The critics and sceptics do not have to prove that those who supported the same bogus claimant have benefited from it.

How can anyone know what "really" happens behind the close doors of the nobel committe

I read that Ghandi was being considered but rejected. If Nobel nominess were confidential I wonder how people knew this I don't know how the nobel committee is suppose to be run but from personal work experience, when you get a group of people, politics gets involved

I understand the rationale for the blind studies but such studies are expensive. I was reading about the Edmonton discovery of a cancer cure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeA84udy7hY
However don't expect available to the public because Big Pharma is not interested in funding something they can't monopolize & make $$$

With regards to personal testimonials not being reliable, one has to ask which is more important the data or the survival rate
Did you watch the video on Nurse Rene Caisse For years she was treating cancer patient successfully & fighting the so called medical establishment who were trying to prevent her. Watch her story it is in 4 parts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZTFqKMlCCo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8JLgYPs0vY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0WcW7skHEE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k_nW-b-XmQ&feature=related

So how would you determine a successful cancer cure. A suvival of 1 year, 2 year..... Her cure is to use herbs. Anyone can purchase the same herbs. It's available at http://www.iherb.com/Essiac-Canada-...bal-Supplement-Powder-1-5-oz-42-5-g/3618?at=0 for less than US$32 If you are a doctor getting millions for researching cancer wouldn't you feel threatened

As for the 95% cure rate I can think a few valid reasons for the high rate such as money, motivation, ignorance,.... The poor have to work & are in no position to look for a cure until it's too late. Even if treatment was given for free there is a limit to the number of free treatments that can be given out. Only those who are strongly motivated will stay with any protocol. In the US the number of heart patients who've had heart by-pass have the same problem in 1 to 4 years because they don't make the necessary lifestyle changes e.g. exercise, avoiding processed foods, avoiding sugars, etc, etc. There is alot of ignorance out there, just look at the heat I've taken from Scroobal He's called me the village idiot, hypochondriac

 

[johnny333]

Normal people will just read and move on. This sinkie nutcase hang on to it and hold deep grudges on whatever he disagree with. His kind of situation need professional help. And somemore, whatever he says is a done deal, he expect everyone to agree with him. Any other condition that need therapist help.

For me , i bash sinkie is to help to lower the dumbfuckness and cowadice of sinkie, it is a noble, selfless deed.

He fight and challenge for his own egoistic self, that needs professional help.

There will always be skeptics This is especially true in Spore where there is plenty of paranoia & suspicion & eh a climate of fear.

I notice that there are plenty of hits whenever there is a thread on cancer. As cancer is the number 1 killer there are many people looking for alternatives to chemo therapy & prayer. They are the silent majority, the lurkers we never see or hear from. I recently found out a neighbour who has young kids has breast cancer:(

My primary concern is with heart & diabetes care as I have personal interest in these problems, but have come across some info about cancer so no harm in sharing. Just do your own homework as I'm only the "the village idiot & hypochondriac"

 

[johnny333]

I have been thru this route before, there were people from this big chain _ GCC or GNN ( can't remember the name correctly ) they hovered around like vulture

and then there was a guy stationed himself in front of NCC giving out flyers

When I was in KL I noticed that GNC is not doing well because their prices are higher than the competition. Even in Spore I don't think they are doing well.
I'm a value shopper & get my stuff from the US.

Just check with www.iherb.com
The shipping to Spore is only US$4, as long as the order is US$80 & below, & not heavier than 4 lbs. The order takes about 9 days to reach Spore.

If you want to support local business go check out Eden Foods which is at Peninsula , http://www.eden.com.sg/contactus.htm

 

[Cruxx]

There will always be skeptics This is especially true in Spore where there is plenty of paranoia & suspicion & eh a climate of fear.

It's not so much paranoia but a lack of individuality. Sinkie sheep have no mind of their own, no personal convictions whatsoever. Sinkies disgust me

 

[johnny333]

It's not so much paranoia but a lack of individuality. Sinkie sheep have no mind of their own, no personal convictions whatsoever. Sinkies disgust me

I understand what you mean I've got my own experience when discussing politics with a civil serf.

Back when Tang Liang Hong(the alleged called chinese chauvinist) was news I was having a discussion with a "civil servant". Actually, I didn't know that he was a civil servant, only found out latter:o

Each time I brought up a point he would reply with the approved gov't response. He would tell me that although he didn't know the details, the proof could be found on some mysterious website. What was scary was that this guy actually believed what he said

With the unhealthy mindset so common in Spore I don't hold much hope for Spore :(

 

[johnny333]

I've already mention about Essiac tea being good detoxifier . I found a good youtube video on how to prepare the tea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACI6up9Np1w&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uipmiuCW7cY&NR=1

You can get the herbs from www.iherb.com & prepare the concoction at home. A few companies sell the necessary herbs.
http://www.iherb.com/search?kw=essiac canada international
http://www.iherb.com/Flora-Flor-Essence-2-1-8-oz-63-g/3052?at=0

 

[Fook Seng]

There is a report in the recent 31st Anniversary issue of the Discover magazine which should interest forummers on this thread. There seems to a jab for each of the critical illnesses: heart problem, cancer, diabetes etc. So don't have to try so many things - TCM, Verdic medicine, chemotherapy, faith-healer, old wife's recipe etc?