Maybe this is why i got yellow fever

[rodent2005]

Prove it false first. Then it becomes false. But no scientist can prove it false. Because they are not smarter than god

Do you drink camel urine then as prescibed in the hadiths?

 

[Loofydralb]

Do you drink camel urine then as prescibed in the hadiths?

Did you listen to what Sheikh Assim explain?
The Hadith is authentic. It did cure the people who came into medina, right?

The condition is specific. Medina. Immigrants. Camels which are unadulterated.
Of course there are modern medicine which also does the job just as well. We Muslims do not reject modern technology.

You must also note some of the modern day medicines which are based on some of the most nastiest and most disgusting ingredients, no? Why are you not disgusted then?

If I were in the desert and sick and no access to newer forms of medication, I have absolute zero hesitancy to this, to get cured.
Muslims believe that only Allah cures. It is by His grace we are cured.

Some medicine works on some people and some don't. That's why you have modern medicine which works sometimes and doesn't at other times.

 

[rodent2005]

Did you listen to what Sheikh Assim explain?
The Hadith is authentic. It did cure the people who came into medina, right?

The condition is specific. Medina. Immigrants. Camels which are unadulterated.
Of course there are modern medicine which also does the job just as well. We Muslims do not reject modern technology.

You must also note some of the modern day medicines which are based on some of the most nastiest and most disgusting ingredients, no? Why are you not disgusted then?

If I were in the desert and sick and no access to newer forms of medication, I have absolute zero hesitancy to this, to get cured.
Muslims believe that only Allah cures. It is by His grace we are cured.

Some medicine works on some people and some don't. That's why you have modern medicine which works sometimes and doesn't at other times.

No need to be so defensive. I'm merely asking you whether you practise what you profess and drink camel urine as a cure. So you do drink camel urine.

 

[Loofydralb]

No need to be so defensive. I'm merely asking you whether you practise what you profess and drink camel urine as a cure. So you do drink camel urine.

Defensive?
I think you have comprehension and analytical issues. Instead of processing what was said in the video and digesting the what and why's, you come back with the same question.

The answer is evident in my previous post.

 

[mudhatter]

moslems don't have a single original and unadulterated scripture. It's proven even by moslem sources

The moslem quran made use of Biblical characters in its tales. That already makes the moslem quran not original.

The moslem quran has zero manuscript source, all of it being recorded as burn by caliph uthman after he compiled his version of the quran.

The moslem quran claims to be the final revelation, but it needs to be complemented by a second scripture, the hadith, which was compiled around 200 years after uthman's qurans went in circulation.

There is nothing called "Moslems", yu chink slanty kafir christ-ian fag.

The Quran is original (as in not adulterated, not fake), and Muslim or non Muslim sources alike have had to confirm in the face of overwhelming evidence that Quran is the only text that remains unaltered and can not be altered even if all the living beings alive today as well as those souls yet to be born were to collaborate together, as confirmed in the Quran itself.

Moreover, the Quran is also original in that it does not duplicate any other sources. If the distorted or corrupted Bible refers to some historical character that is also referred to in the Quran, then it is because they all had existed in the past and because both Zabur, Injil, Taurah and finally, the greatest of them all, the Quran was revealed by Allah (SWT), the Creator and Sustainer of the Universe.


It is those corruptions and distortions in the Bible and other fake scriptures that incl corruptions or distortions that necessitated the revelation of a Final Scripture, the Holy Quran.

Zakir Naik a CECA Muslim exposes some common falsehoods and contradictions incl in the fake, man made Bible for your reference.




Hadiths were compiled 200 years afterwards. If the Hadith fanatics were correct, then no body in these 200 intervening years could have been Muslim. Ergo, these Hadiths could not have been circulated 200 years aftewards for the likes of Bukhari and others to compile them. Ergo, Hadith fanatics' insistence on Hadiths as superior or equal to Quran in authenticity or relevance is misplaced.

From the War against the Apostates, aka Ridda Wars, it's obvious that many arab moslems saw being a 'moslem' as nothing more than a political or military allegiance to mahomet. When mahomet died, their allegiance is completed and is not automatically transferred to his successor. And they wanted to leave. mahomet's successors had to launch military invasions to force those ex-moslem arabs back into islam.

That's how most moslems of the day saw islam - nothing but repackaging of a political allegiance. Your islam transformed itself again and again over time to become a religion. But it still stays true to its form as a political tool, which is why religion and politics in islam is always intertwined.

???

In response to the following, you made up stories about totally unrelated Ridda Wars and went off on a tangent (so to speak) babbling about irrelevant issues again?

Did your priest penetrated you last night harder than usual by any chance? Why are you seeing things and babbling incoherent drivel?

Hypocrites were dealt with according to the terms of an agreed upon contract. I don't see any issue with that. Just and timely enforcement of the law, justice dispensed, problem resolved.

Christians don't even have a single original, intact, unadulterated, unedited, unmodified text left. no such scripture exist. all corrupted, distorted, modified.

this is why your arse getting penetrated by your ang moh priests could have been permitted as wild and perverse as it may sound

would any true religion permit that? think over it for a minute. i know you suffer from stockhold syndrome and have come to love your tormentors - your ang moh priests and pastors who penetrated yur tender posterior - but why would any religion whatsoever permit, or promote, such perversions?

 

[mudhatter]

Did you listen to what Sheikh Assim explain?
The Hadith is authentic. It did cure the people who came into medina, right?

The condition is specific. Medina. Immigrants. Camels which are unadulterated.
Of course there are modern medicine which also does the job just as well. We Muslims do not reject modern technology.

You must also note some of the modern day medicines which are based on some of the most nastiest and most disgusting ingredients, no? Why are you not disgusted then?

If I were in the desert and sick and no access to newer forms of medication, I have absolute zero hesitancy to this, to get cured.
Muslims believe that only Allah cures. It is by His grace we are cured.

Some medicine works on some people and some don't. That's why you have modern medicine which works sometimes and doesn't at other times.

Seriously?

Suudis are negroes, with low IQ. Thus unable to develop any civilization history intellect anything requiring intelligence and dumbest of dumbest in the world, that's why they come up with those perversions.


Suudi modus operandi is to drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Sorry, not falling for it.


Suudis are negroes as proven multiple times in the past. No need to put these niggers on a pedestal when they are the biggest reason kafir yankees, same anti Muslim, anti Islamic Yankees have been dominant power since 1991 at least (look up petrodollars if yu didn't know).

These negroes are a curse, not a bane, for Muslims worldwide.

These negroes should all be eliminated for the mistake of a single one.

Under no circumstances am I going to accept camel urine drink and no true religion will prescribe this BS. Sorry, Suudi BS must end.


these Hadiths were compiled 200 years later, what sort of "Islamic" regime is a dictatorship that is a vassal of kafir yankees, same yankees that went on a "crusade" against Islam and Muslims since 2001 and these bastard suudi niggers didn't do a single goddamned thing to - at the very least - undermine yankees?


at least develop nukes icbm and anti sat missiles and distribute them to Muslims everywhere so yanks' corpses can be splattered all around the world for all their transgressions.

true? or false?

suudis are dumb arse niggers. as proven multiple times before, look it up if you need to.

 

[rodent2005]

 

[JohnTan]

The Quran is original (as in not adulterated, not fake), and Muslim or non Muslim sources alike have had to confirm in the face of overwhelming evidence that Quran is the only text that remains unaltered and can not be altered even if all the living beings alive today as well as those souls yet to be born were to collaborate together, as confirmed in the Quran itself.

There are no surviving copies of the quran from caliph uthman's time. Neither are there any surviving copies of the manuscripts used to compile the first quran.

So you don't have any hard evidence that your quran hasn't been edited.

In response to the following, you made up stories about totally unrelated Ridda Wars and went off on a tangent (so to speak) babbling about irrelevant issues again?

Totally unrelated??

The Ridda Wars started because many moslem arabs interpreted being a 'moslem' as nothing more than a military allegiance to mahomet the warlord. The moment mahomet died, those arabs were released from their allegiance and were 'moslem' no more. mahomet's successor, saw things different and interpreted being a 'moslem' as meaning a lifelong allegiance to mahomet and whoever succeeded him as the next warlord chief.

That's how your islamic religion began and that was what being a 'moslem' meant. It's a military/politican allegiance to a warlord, nothing more. There's no God present in being a 'moslem'.

 

[mudhatter]

There are no surviving copies of the quran from caliph uthman's time. Neither are there any surviving copies of the manuscripts used to compile the first quran.

So you don't have any hard evidence that your quran hasn't been edited.

Quran has been memorized by hundreds of millions if not billions of people around the world over 1400 odd years. Not a single error anywhere, Quran has been recited in Recitation competitions all around the world, again no issues. Moreover, Quranic verses have been recited every day, at least 5 times a day, around the world, across various latitudes & longitudes for over 1400 years. A single error, a single discrepancy would have meant that like other scriptures that were subsequently altered modified or corrupted, we would have seen multiple versions of the Quran.

There is no such thing.

No matter how many times you deny the obvious truth, much as you'd like to deny 2+5=7, there's no logical, reasonable, consistent, way in which you could do so.

Totally unrelated??

The Ridda Wars started because many moslem arabs interpreted being a 'moslem' as nothing more than a military allegiance to mahomet the warlord. The moment mahomet died, those arabs were released from their allegiance and were 'moslem' no more. mahomet's successor, saw things different and interpreted being a 'moslem' as meaning a lifelong allegiance to mahomet and whoever succeeded him as the next warlord chief.

That's how your islamic religion began and that was what being a 'moslem' meant. It's a military/politican allegiance to a warlord, nothing more. There's no God present in being a 'moslem'.

These fabricated stories about Ridda wars, where a bunch of hypocrites were dealt with in accordance with the terms of the contract, are unrelated to lack of any original, intact, unadulterated, unedited, unmodified text left anywhere in Christianity or Judaism or other religions.

Christians don't even have a single original, intact, unadulterated, unedited, unmodified text left. no such scripture exist. all corrupted, distorted, modified.

this is why your arse getting penetrated by your ang moh priests could have been permitted as wild and perverse as it may sound

would any true religion permit that? think over it for a minute. i know you suffer from stockhold syndrome and have come to love your tormentors - your ang moh priests and pastors who penetrated yur tender posterior - but why would any religion whatsoever permit, or promote, such perversions?