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Loofydralb

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Sahih al-Bukhari 3320

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said "If a house fly falls in the drink of anyone of you, he should dip it (in the drink) and take it out, for one of its wings has a disease and the other has the cure for the disease."

The same was said in the 1800's when christians made fun of the Quran and said it was wrong when it refered to the ruler during Yusuf's (Joseph) time as King instead of pharoah. The christians gloated at how the 'perfect' Quran was so wrong and the bible, who used the title pharoah, throughout was right.

Muslims responded then like always, that we believe whatever Allah's words must be true.

In the early 1900's, they deciphered the Egyptian hieroglyphics and lo and behold...during Yusuf's time, the Hexos of Europe ruled Egypt and they refered to themselves as Kings not pharoahs. Later after Egyptians reclaimed the throne did they reuse the title pharoah again.

This is a scientific fact and till today christian cucks had to shut up when it comes to the Quran.

When the secrets of the world is yet to be uncovered by men, don't diss what was revealed. You have yet to prove it's untrue.
 

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That is interesting. Yup, I presume the caliph of mecca you're referring to is caliph uthman?

this is the guy behind the creation of Islam : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Bakr

uthman is part of his name.

Here's a verse from the moslem hadith scriptures, narrating that there are indeed various qurans even during mahomet's lifetime. The conduct of his disciples is also interesting. One disciple would resort to violence and criminal use of force when he heard a different version of the quran being recited. That tells you a lot about how well his teacher has taught him.
For what it's worth, in my opinion, Mohammed may have been a good man relative to his time. They subsequently sanctified him posthumously, in effect leveraging his goodness to underwrite the legitimacy of their diabolical regime. All these religious writings using his name did not exist while Mohammed was still breathing. As for other Korans at that time, there were as many as there were snake oil salesmen at that time. Which is a lot. The hadiths are the equivalent of retconning in fiction. To suit their own purposes. I highly doubt any one of these people have anything to do with each other with the sole exception of them hiding behind the fig leaf of "allah's chosen religion".


Narrated Umar bin Al-Khattab: I heard Hisham bin Hakim reciting Surat Al-Furqan during the lifetime of Allah's Apostle and I listened to his recitation and noticed that he recited in several different ways which Allah's Apostle had not taught me. I was about to jump over him during his prayer, but I controlled my temper and when he had completed his prayer, I put his upper garment around his neck and seized him by it and said, "Who taught you this Surat which I heard you reciting ?" He replied, "Allah's Apostle taught it to me". I said, "You have told a lie, for Allah's Apostle taught it to me in a different way from yours". So I dragged him to Allah's Apostle and said, "I heard this person reciting Surat Al-Furqan in a way which you haven't taught me!" On that Allah's Apostle said, "Release him (Umar) recite, O Hisham!" Then he recited in the same way I heard him reciting. Then Allah's Apostle said, "It was revealed in this way", and added, "Recite, O Umar", I recited it as he had taught me. Allah's Apostle then said, "It was revealed in this way. This Qur'an has been revealed to be recited in seven different ways, so recite of it whichever is easier for you." (Sahih al-Bukhari: vol. 6, bk. 61, no. 514)
Might as well watch game of thrones. In 3D. Same authenticity.
 

nightsafari

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I read of some theory regarding that. That 'mecca' was actually Petra.
The only reason mecca is what it is is because the Caliph Abu Bakr wanted to establish his seat of power as the sole legitimate one. He succeeded beyond his wildest dreams and to this day, fools from all over the world throw money at this infernal center of idolatry in the hopes of currying favour with Allah in the hopes of afterlife insurance.

Allah has no need of worship, hijabs and circumcision. He would have made us this way if he wanted it so. Only the priests want it for access to the money and the other worldly benefits.
 

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A lot of non chink guys has yellow fever. They watch porn must be chinese japanese koreans. They dont watch ang mo porn. Go out in the streets always lust chinese gals. Then even prc milf tat ah neh also wanted to know what is she talking and give a lustful look. Tat prc milf find them disgusting.
 

JohnTan

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Any western university will do but not a single christian apologist would dare it means lying is central to their efforts, not pursuit of truth.

That sort of debate won't happen because the moslems will riot in public if their mohammedan religion is openly challenged, with death threats issued out by most moslem preachers.
 

JohnTan

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The same was said in the 1800's when christians made fun of the Quran and said it was wrong when it refered to the ruler during Yusuf's (Joseph) time as King instead of pharoah. The christians gloated at how the 'perfect' Quran was so wrong and the bible, who used the title pharoah, throughout was right.

Muslims responded then like always, that we believe whatever Allah's words must be true.

In the early 1900's, they deciphered the Egyptian hieroglyphics and lo and behold...during Yusuf's time, the Hexos of Europe ruled Egypt and they refered to themselves as Kings not pharoahs. Later after Egyptians reclaimed the throne did they reuse the title pharoah again.

This is a scientific fact and till today christian cucks had to shut up when it comes to the Quran.

When the secrets of the world is yet to be uncovered by men, don't diss what was revealed. You have yet to prove it's untrue.

What the fuck are you talking about? Trying to throw some smoke bomb to cover up how retarded your hadith scriptures are, is it?


You said the al-Bukahri hadiths are authentic. So I showed you one of his verses about housefly soup being a remedy for illness. When did you last drink housefly soup?

Sahih al-Bukhari 3320

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said "If a house fly falls in the drink of anyone of you, he should dip it (in the drink) and take it out, for one of its wings has a disease and the other has the cure for the disease."
 

JohnTan

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For what it's worth, in my opinion, Mohammed may have been a good man relative to his time. They subsequently sanctified him posthumously, in effect leveraging his goodness to underwrite the legitimacy of their diabolical regime. All these religious writings using his name did not exist while Mohammed was still breathing. As for other Korans at that time, there were as many as there were snake oil salesmen at that time. Which is a lot. The hadiths are the equivalent of retconning in fiction. To suit their own purposes. I highly doubt any one of these people have anything to do with each other with the sole exception of them hiding behind the fig leaf of "allah's chosen religion".

If mohammed was real, I think he was a product of his time His acts of banditry, child pedophilia, making up shit for political reasons, were normal behaviour of a small tribal warlord trying to survive in a harsh world. I do understand the rationale of being tough just to survive. His conduct could be acceptable for his peers of his era.

However, his conduct is definitely not a 'role model' for all people for all times, nor is it the 'best of humanity'. mahomet was neither sent from God.

The only reason mecca is what it is is because the Caliph Abu Bakr wanted to establish his seat of power as the sole legitimate one.

This has some logical basis to it, even though Mecca not a strategic area. In chinkland, during the early Ming era, the dynasty of the empire was at Nanjing because it was close to the richest trading areas of chinkland. However, the 3rd Ming emperor, having seized the throne by force, was fearful of uprising. So he decided to uproot the capital and shift it north to a much poorer city called Beijing, where his own powerbase was.

Allah has no need of worship, hijabs and circumcision. He would have made us this way if he wanted it so. Only the priests want it for access to the money and the other worldly benefits.

I agree. When you're saved by Grace, you worship because you're thank that you already have been saved. You're not doing the worship or rituals in order to curry favour to be saved.
 
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nightsafari

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If mohammed was real, I think he was a product of his time His acts of banditry, child pedophilia, making up shit for political reasons, were normal behaviour of a small tribal warlord trying to survive in a harsh world. I do understand the rationale of being tough just to survive. His conduct could be acceptable for his peers of his era.

However, his conduct is definitely not a 'role model' for all people for all times, nor is it the 'best of humanity'. mahomet was neither sent from God.
maybe a little better than normal for that period for those people.
This has some logical basis to it, even though Mecca not a strategic area. In chinkland, during the early Ming era, the dynasty of the empire was at Nanjing because it was close to the richest trading areas of chinkland. However, the 3rd Ming emperor, having seized the throne by force, was fearful of uprising. So he decided to uproot the capital and shift it north to a much poorer city called Beijing, where his own powerbase was.
The reasons I have dug up are the same, but it was the Yuan who did it. I don't know who it was but either Chinggis or Kubilai wanted to escape easily back to Mongolia. They established their capital as Beijing. But my sources say that it was a Mongolian town prior to being called Beijing. not Chinese. Dadu/Cambulac.


I agree. When you're saved by Grace, you worship because you're thank that you already have been saved. You're not doing the worship or rituals in order to curry favour to be saved.
:thumbsup:
 

rodent2005

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The same was said in the 1800's when christians made fun of the Quran and said it was wrong when it refered to the ruler during Yusuf's (Joseph) time as King instead of pharoah. The christians gloated at how the 'perfect' Quran was so wrong and the bible, who used the title pharoah, throughout was right.

This is a scientific fact and till today christian cucks had to shut up when it comes to the Quran.

When the secrets of the world is yet to be uncovered by men, don't diss what was revealed. You have yet to prove it's untrue.
You have to quote some sources to substantiate your story about this inconsequential episode about what the ruler of Eqypt is called.

So you believe the poison is in one the fly's wings and the cure is in the other? Surely this must be proven already if true and not wait for it to be proven years later.
 

syed putra

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The reasons I have dug up are the same, but it was the Yuan who did it. I don't know who it was but either Chinggis or Kubilai wanted to escape easily back to Mongolia. They established their capital as Beijing. But my sources say that it was a Mongolian town prior to being called Beijing. not Chinese. Dadu/Cambulac.
Beijing was capital of jin dynasty. It was ransacked by chinggis khan and the emperor fled to Song territory.
The entire china was save when chinggis heard his diplomats sent to trade peacefully with khwarizm empire of central asia were butchered.
Nothing was left of that empire when chinggis was finished with it.
Then he destroyed the xixia empire as it did not supports tge monggol army at war with khwarism and stopped paying tribute to the mongols. You cannot see remnants of Xi Xia dynasty or empire either. Chinggis died immediately after that said to be poisoned by the daughter of xixia emperor that he narried esrlier on during the first invasion.
 

Loofydralb

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You have to quote some sources to substantiate your story about this inconsequential episode about what the ruler of Eqypt is called.

So you believe the poison is in one the fly's wings and the cure is in the other? Surely this must be proven already if true and not wait for it to be proven years later.
This what Islam demands and is quoted in the Quran and I paraphrase:
However much evidence you present, they will not believe.

So go do your own homework. Don't take my word for it.
 

rodent2005

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This what Islam demands and is quoted in the Quran and I paraphrase:
However much evidence you present, they will not believe.

So go do your own homework. Don't take my word for it.
So you believe the poison is in one the fly's wings and the cure is in the other? Surely this must be proven already if true and not wait for it to be proven years later.
 

Loofydralb

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So you believe the poison is in one the fly's wings and the cure is in the other? Surely this must be proven already if true and not wait for it to be proven years later.
Prove it false first. Then it becomes false. But no scientist can prove it false. Because they are not smarter than god
 

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So you believe the poison is in one the fly's wings and the cure is in the other? Surely this must be proven already if true and not wait for it to be proven years later.
Could alot of these sayings be just opinions and not meant to be taken literally? But bcos of the religious nature. Opinions and sayings become facts ..like drinking Camel urine..and such religious sayings are based on 2000 years ago environment. Things change and science gives us something else. Case in point in the past quinine was used for fever..but now it's not...and bcos of the mudslimes obsession with their book..they prefer to follow 2000 years ago ideas. Compared to mainstream Christians..how many 2000 year ago idea do they still follow?
 

rodent2005

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Could alot of these sayings be just opinions and not meant to be taken literally? But bcos of the religious nature. Opinions and sayings become facts ..like drinking Camel urine..and such religious sayings are based on 2000 years ago environment. Things change and science gives us something else. Case in point in the past quinine was used for fever..but now it's not...and bcos of the mudslimes obsession with their book..they prefer to follow 2000 years ago ideas. Compared to mainstream Christians..how many 2000 year ago idea do they still follow?
Maybe you don't know Islam, the Muslims believe that the quran is Allah's eternal uncreated written word, not man's words.

If you want to know any 2000 year idea in the Bible still used today, it is to wash with running water instead. In the 1800s I believe, people still wash with still water.
 

Hypocrite-The

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Maybe you don't know Islam, the Muslims believe that the quran is Allah's eternal uncreated written word, not man's words.

If you want to know any 2000 year idea in the Bible still used today, it is to wash with running water instead. In the 1800s I believe, people still wash with still water.
When water comes out from the tap...it's not running?
 

Hypocrite-The

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Maybe you don't know Islam, the Muslims believe that the quran is Allah's eternal uncreated written word, not man's words.

If you want to know any 2000 year idea in the Bible still used today, it is to wash with running water instead. In the 1800s I believe, people still wash with still water.
How can a book written by ppl from memory recited by different sources be written by God? God wrote it literally? If not their claim is totally BS
 
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