Serious [GPGT] The colour of my dental implant bridge does not match the colour of my surrounding real teeth, pls help

[orpisia]

Yes, she probably tried to cut corner with the previous crowns.

I still think it's either not homogeneous like you said, or she put polishing material and polished it, or both

Anyway she screwed up on 2 fronts, the whiteness and the colour mismatch. Matched the upper instead of lower.

Still not over for now, gotta wait and see how for the next set of crowns.

 

[glockman]

I still think it's either not homogeneous like you said, or she put polishing material and polished it, or both

Anyway she screwed up on 2 fronts, the whiteness and the colour mismatch. Matched the upper instead of lower.

Still not over for now, gotta wait and see how for the next set of crowns.

At least now you are more knowledgeable and savvy than before, so you know how it should be. Give her hell if she fucks up again.

 

[orpisia]

That day when auntie dentist removed the set of crowns, there were also puncture holes on the gums.

The crowns were too sharp and were pressing down against the gums. I could feel the sharpness over the few days it was in my mouth.

 

[nightsafari]

I'm going to see the auntie dentist again tomorrow.

I've thought of some outcomes:

After I complain to her about it,

1) she do the same thing over again, give me 2 sample tooths to choose the colour

2) she don't do anything about it

3) she does something to modify or change the colour

If it's 1, I am not comfortable about it, because it's the exact same thing she did which led to this unsatisfactory colour. How can she do it the same way? I can't let her do that right? If that is so what should I do? Should I just walk out?

I don't have confidence in her at all.

If I have to get new teeth and I have to spend more money, I am not rich, and spending money on new crowns will prevent me from doing other things in my personal life which requires my financial commitment.

All because of this screw up by her.

All 3 not good solutions. Should just walk out on her. If you wish can seek financial redress some other ways. This is her skill level. It won't get better the 2nd time around. No choice have to spend the money if you want a good result. Later then can seek recompense. Sorry for the late reply.

 

[orpisia]

All 3 not good solutions. Should just walk out on her. If you wish can seek financial redress some other ways. This is her skill level. It won't get better the 2nd time around. No choice have to spend the money if you want a good result. Later then can seek recompense. Sorry for the late reply.

Now currently i'm still waiting for the 2nd set of crowns to arrive and be fitted into my mouth

But of course, like you said, this auntie dentist sucks, her skill level.

What should I do? Can I tell her that I don't want her to do it, to fit or install the crowns for me?

Do I need to find another orthodontist? Don't know who

Or should I tell her that I wanna let the other specialist periodontist who I'm seeing, to let him install the crowns, instead of her?

 

[nightsafari]

Now currently i'm still waiting for the 2nd set of crowns to arrive and be fitted into my mouth

But of course, like you said, this auntie dentist sucks, her skill level.

What should I do? Can I tell her that I don't want her to do it, to fit or install the crowns for me?

Do I need to find another orthodontist? Don't know who

Or should I tell her that I wanna let the other specialist periodontist who I'm seeing, to let him install the crowns, instead of her?

You actually have a twofold problem. One is with the teeth itself. The other is money.

First step is the teeth. Her skill level cannot be changed. Stop everything to do with her. Otherwise you're pouring fuel on the fire. Go and find another ortho. A good one. I can't help you there, but maybe someone here knows.

Ask him/her how to fix. That's the only way to get a good smile back.

How much you pay this new dentist if you want a good smile just pay it.

The 2nd part of your problem is money. If no money to go to 2nd ortho no choice. you will have to live with ugly teeth. That's all. No one can change these alternatives. Only you. If have money the choice is clear. As before go find a new ortho that you trust and know will do a better job and blow whatever money you need to insist on whatever you need to.

Long story short. Blow money go find new dentist and do proper job.

Once done, if you wish to recover the money from her, can go and consult lawyer or simply ask for money back for a poor job. But this is really epilogue.

Lastly if you really have no money to do something else you just have to accept whatever she gives you.

 

[orpisia]

You actually have a twofold problem. One is with the teeth itself. The other is money.

First step is the teeth. Her skill level cannot be changed. Stop everything to do with her. Otherwise you're pouring fuel on the fire. Go and find another ortho. A good one. I can't help you there, but maybe someone here knows.

Ask him/her how to fix. That's the only way to get a good smile back.

How much you pay this new dentist if you want a good smile just pay it.

The 2nd part of your problem is money. If no money to go to 2nd ortho no choice. you will have to live with ugly teeth. That's all. No one can change these alternatives. Only you. If have money the choice is clear. As before go find a new ortho that you trust and know will do a better job and blow whatever money you need to insist on whatever you need to.

Long story short. Blow money go find new dentist and do proper job.

Once done, if you wish to recover the money from her, can go and consult lawyer or simply ask for money back for a poor job. But this is really epilogue.

Lastly if you really have no money to do something else you just have to accept whatever she gives you.

Ok i understand but the thing is, like I said, I voiced out my dissatisfaction with the colour mismatch that time, and the auntie dentist took another colour sample to have the lab remake another set of crowns again. So I'm now waiting for this 2nd set of crowns to arrive.

I'm asking if, can I take the 2nd of crowns with me, don't let the auntie dentist do it, and then I go to an orthodontist to do it?

Of course I'll need to pay the orthodontist to fix it on for me, but it won't cost as much as having new set of crowns right? Because the auntie dentist is ordering it for me

I just hope the colour matches more closely this time to my lower teeth and then can I get an orthodontist to fix it for me?

 

[nightsafari]

Ok i understand but the thing is, like I said, I voiced out my dissatisfaction with the colour mismatch that time, and the auntie dentist took another colour sample to have the lab remake another set of crowns again. So I'm now waiting for this 2nd set of crowns to arrive.

I'm asking if, can I take the 2nd of crowns with me, don't let the auntie dentist do it, and then I go to an orthodontist to do it?

Of course I'll need to pay the orthodontist to fix it on for me, but it won't cost as much as having new set of crowns right? Because the auntie dentist is ordering it for me

I just hope the colour matches more closely this time to my lower teeth and then can I get an orthodontist to fix it for me?

Not really a good idea. Trying to cut corners not likely to give you the result you want. It's not the "installation" or fixing that's screwing your teeth colour up. It's her colour matching that's screwing it up.

If colour match 1st time so bad, how 2nd time going to be any better? You need someone with a better eye to colour match for you. That guy should be ordering the crowns. Not the same person who screwed it up 1st time.

 

[eatshitndie]

drama still ongoing? is this becumming the new taiwanese drama with 6.9k episodes?

 

[mojito]

Why not wear a brighter lipstick then no one look at your toof?

 

[orpisia]

Not really a good idea. Trying to cut corners not likely to give you the result you want. It's not the "installation" or fixing that's screwing your teeth colour up. It's her colour matching that's screwing it up.

If colour match 1st time so bad, how 2nd time going to be any better? You need someone with a better eye to colour match for you. That guy should be ordering the crowns. Not the same person who screwed it up 1st time.

I know, that's what I wanted to happen also. That's why I asked the auntie dentist to meet up with the specialist dentist to ask for his opinion, because they're just next door.

So that day all 3 of us met up, and then the auntie dentist asked the specialist dentist(periodontist) if he could do it. Then the specialist dentist was a bit taken aback, and said to the auntie dentist "no no no, your lab and my lab is different. you know your lab better, i know my lab better." Basically, the specialist dentist didn't want to accede to her request to do it for me.

I don't know the agreement between both dental clinics. It's like I am considered the patient of the auntie dentist, and then I was referred to the specialist dentist. So the making of crowns part comes under the jurisdiction of the auntie dentist.

Actually, the auntie dentist's "installation" of the crowns also lousy. I told her, the first time she did it, the bottom of the crowns was too sharp and it poked my gums, causing small holes in the gums.

Does anyone here know, if and when the new crowns arrive, if it is possible for me to take the crowns away with me, then I go to another orthodontist to get it fixed into my mouth?

 

[orpisia]

going back to the useless auntie dentist tomorrow to fix the new crowns. hope she doesn't screw up, but judging from her lousy skills, highly likely it's not going to be satisfactory in some way.

 

[rushifa666]

do i look like a dentist? Use a hammer diy

 

[orpisia]

At least now you are more knowledgeable and savvy than before, so you know how it should be. Give her hell if she fucks up again.

Not really a good idea. Trying to cut corners not likely to give you the result you want. It's not the "installation" or fixing that's screwing your teeth colour up. It's her colour matching that's screwing it up.

If colour match 1st time so bad, how 2nd time going to be any better? You need someone with a better eye to colour match for you. That guy should be ordering the crowns. Not the same person who screwed it up 1st time.

just called and spoke to the specialist periodontist

told him that i'm not comfortable with the auntie dentist and all, and he was very defensive towards the auntie dentist, as usual

said things like "mr orpisia, u're not a dentist...we're doctors and we've been doing this for over 30 years"

always uses this kind of speech to suppress my concerns or worries i tell him

other than that, he said yes the colour mismatch was a mistake but everything else was ok. i told him abt the crowns touching poking through the gums causing some pain, he said it's meant to be like that, said it's an indentation, for the gums to wrap around the crown, otherwise food can enter. sometimes i dunno if he's talking real or bluffing me.

anyway, he told me to go back to the auntie dentist let her fix on the replacement crowns then he said he promise me after 1 month, i can go back to him let him check then he can do adjustments if need be

 

[glockman]

just called and spoke to the specialist periodontist

told him that i'm not comfortable with the auntie dentist and all, and he was very defensive towards the auntie dentist, as usual

said things like "mr orpisia, u're not a dentist...we're doctors and we've been doing this for over 30 years"

always uses this kind of speech to suppress my concerns or worries i tell him

other than that, he said yes the colour mismatch was a mistake but everything else was ok. i told him abt the crowns touching poking through the gums causing some pain, he said it's meant to be like that, said it's an indentation, for the gums to wrap around the crown, otherwise food can enter. sometimes i dunno if he's talking real or bluffing me.

anyway, he told me to go back to the auntie dentist let her fix on the replacement crowns then he said he promise me after 1 month, i can go back to him let him check then he can do adjustments if need be

Well, we can't expect them to undermine a fellow member of their profession. We could use their word against them. That's fair enough that he offered to do the adjustments. Glad you are closer to getting everything done properly.

 

[orpisia]

Well, we can't expect them to undermine a fellow member of their profession. We could use their word against them. That's fair enough that he offered to do the adjustments. Glad you are closer to getting everything done properly.

this specialist is also dismissive whenever i bring up my concerns to him. i am still skeptical about what he told me about the "indentation".

sometimes, i don't know if he is making up a lie or something to allay my fears or to shut me up. Because that "indentation" caused me pain, which was something the auntie dentist did. I also remember last time when my old bridge was installed by another dentist over 10 years ago, it had no pain. this "indentation" so-called by the specialist, is actually like the crowns poking through the gums, causing the pain.

I'll see how. What i'm thinking of now is to go to the auntie dentist for her to fix the replacement set of crowns in my mouth, then if there's something wrong, i might want to go to another specialist periodontist to seek his/her opinion, especially about this "indentation" thing. I just can't swallow it when the specialist says it's normal but it caused me pain.

 

[Scrooball (clone)]

sometimes, i don't know if he is making up a lie or something to allay my fears or to shut me up. Because that "indentation" caused me pain, which was something the auntie dentist did. I also remember last time when my old bridge was installed by another dentist over 10 years ago, it had no pain. this "indentation" so-called by the specialist, is actually like the crowns poking through the gums, causing the pain.

There shouldn’t be any pain after installation of the bridge. Sounds like a screwup that they didn’t align the placement well in first place.

 

[orpisia]

There shouldn’t be any pain after installation of the bridge. Sounds like a screwup that they didn’t align the placement well in first place.

yes that's what i think also. i just don't think it's right when there is pain.

so when i called up and told the specialist abt the pain of the crowns poking through the gums when the auntie dentist installed it, he told me about what "indentation" and all. sometimes i think he basically cooks up something in order to get me to believe it to allay my fears, and then so that i won't question him further. he's also authoritative and dismissive.

i fear going back to the auntie dentist because u all know how incompetent she is. screwed up over the colour mismatch, caused me pain when installing the crowns.

my appointment with her is next week. if she screws up somehow again for me and i have pain, should i go to another specialist for another opinion? especially because i want to ask about the pain of the crowns poking through the gums.

 

[glockman]

this specialist is also dismissive whenever i bring up my concerns to him. i am still skeptical about what he told me about the "indentation".

sometimes, i don't know if he is making up a lie or something to allay my fears or to shut me up. Because that "indentation" caused me pain, which was something the auntie dentist did. I also remember last time when my old bridge was installed by another dentist over 10 years ago, it had no pain. this "indentation" so-called by the specialist, is actually like the crowns poking through the gums, causing the pain.

I'll see how. What i'm thinking of now is to go to the auntie dentist for her to fix the replacement set of crowns in my mouth, then if there's something wrong, i might want to go to another specialist periodontist to seek his/her opinion, especially about this "indentation" thing. I just can't swallow it when the specialist says it's normal but it caused me pain.

can you take a photo of the area in question? Indentation and crown hurting the gum. I am trying hard to visualise it.

 

[orpisia]

can you take a photo of the area in question? Indentation and crown hurting the gum. I am trying hard to visualise it.

the auntie dentist removed the crowns few weeks ago, so since then the small holes in the gums already healed up closed up and now i'm back with the healing screws.

i also didn't take a pic of it.

it's basically just small holes on the gums, where the bottom of the crowns touch the gums.

to me, the bottom part of the crowns felt sharp and poking through the gums.