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The real reason why there were so many Hokkien emigrants. Hokkiens were sabotaged by Ming emperor

ginfreely said:
商品经济的发展会带来物质的丰富，物质的丰富会带来奢侈，奢侈会打破他精心策划的等级；商品经济一定要有资源的流动，社会流动会带来不稳定，这也是朱元璋憎恨商品经济的缘由。明初的首都应天府（今南京）拥有世界上最雄伟、规模最大的城墙，即建于朱元璋时代，所用的亿万块城砖竟然是产自全国至少一百多个州县，即每个州县生产出千万块城砖后千里迢迢运往首都。为什么朱元璋不在首都建造一个城砖工厂，而要不顾规模经济，不顾运输成本采用全国制造的模式？其实不仅如此，政府所需的纸张等办公用具也同样是在全国各地征用，而不是货币就近采购。民众们不仅要直接为政府和军队生产各种各样的物资，而且要承担运送的任务，这常常导致承担者的家庭因此破产。朱元璋甚至一度想建立这样一种新型的军民关系，即由具体的民众为具体的军队对口直接提供给养。他的意图至此已经很明显，尽量减少商品经济的存在，尽量减少人员的流动，因此不难想象朱元璋为何要进行严格的海禁，闭关锁国，规定“片板不许入海”，从而彻底根绝了唐宋以来一向繁荣的海外贸易。朱元璋想恢复的只是一个封闭的小农田园社会，这种安定、保守、贫穷、封闭、等级森严的社会最有利于他的江山长久稳固。
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The development of commodity economy will bring about material richness. The richness of material will bring luxury. Luxury will break the level of his careful planning. The commodity economy must have the flow of resources, and social mobility will bring instability. This is also the product of Zhu Yuan’s hate. The reason for the economy. The capital of the early Ming Dynasty, Yingtianfu (now Nanjing), has the most magnificent and largest city wall in the world, which was built in the era of Zhu Yuanzhang. The hundreds of millions of bricks used are produced in at least 100 states and counties across the country. After the state and county produced ten million bricks, they were transported to the capital. Why did Zhu Yuanzhang not build a city brick factory in the capital, but regardless of economies of scale, regardless of transportation costs, adopt a national manufacturing model? In fact, not only that, but the office supplies such as paper required by the government are also expropriated throughout the country, rather than being purchased near the currency. Not only do people have to produce all kinds of supplies directly for the government and the military, but they also have to undertake the tasks of transportation, which often leads to the bankruptcy of the family of the bearer. Zhu Yuanzhang even wanted to establish such a new type of military-civilian relationship, that is, the specific people directly provide support for specific military counterparts. His intentions have been obvious so far, to minimize the existence of the commodity economy and to minimize the flow of people. Therefore, it is not difficult to imagine why Zhu Yuanzhang had to carry out a strict sea ban, shut down the country and stipulate that "the sheet is not allowed to enter the sea", thus completely eradicating the Tang and Song Dynasties. A booming overseas trade. Zhu Yuanzhang wants to recover only a closed small farmland society. This stable, conservative, poor, closed, and hierarchical society is most conducive to his long-term stability.
 
hollowman said:
What nric big face small face are you mad ? I was just posting what I had received from someone and it's up to me or anyone to believe whether it's yours :unsure::thumbsup:
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Coward pussy condoning fellow ccb Malaysian criminal pussies just shut up ok. Coward liar admit coward liar. Every cb is mine and every nipple is mine according to you ccb people with ccb mouth and dirty hands pointing ccb fingers.
 
ginfreely said:
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The development of commodity economy will bring about material richness. The richness of material will bring luxury. Luxury will break the level of his careful planning. The commodity economy must have the flow of resources, and social mobility will bring instability. This is also the product of Zhu Yuan’s hate. The reason for the economy. The capital of the early Ming Dynasty, Yingtianfu (now Nanjing), has the most magnificent and largest city wall in the world, which was built in the era of Zhu Yuanzhang. The hundreds of millions of bricks used are produced in at least 100 states and counties across the country. After the state and county produced ten million bricks, they were transported to the capital. Why did Zhu Yuanzhang not build a city brick factory in the capital, but regardless of economies of scale, regardless of transportation costs, adopt a national manufacturing model? In fact, not only that, but the office supplies such as paper required by the government are also expropriated throughout the country, rather than being purchased near the currency. Not only do people have to produce all kinds of supplies directly for the government and the military, but they also have to undertake the tasks of transportation, which often leads to the bankruptcy of the family of the bearer. Zhu Yuanzhang even wanted to establish such a new type of military-civilian relationship, that is, the specific people directly provide support for specific military counterparts. His intentions have been obvious so far, to minimize the existence of the commodity economy and to minimize the flow of people. Therefore, it is not difficult to imagine why Zhu Yuanzhang had to carry out a strict sea ban, shut down the country and stipulate that "the sheet is not allowed to enter the sea", thus completely eradicating the Tang and Song Dynasties. A booming overseas trade. Zhu Yuanzhang wants to recover only a closed small farmland society. This stable, conservative, poor, closed, and hierarchical society is most conducive to his long-term stability.
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This stupid Ming emperor was incredibly inefficient and went backwards from Tang and Song Dynasty open trading economy to closed farming economy. Not because he was real stupid but because he was a psychopath that wanted a closed economy for him to control and benefit from. Hokkiens were sacrificed!
 
ginfreely said:
This stupid Ming emperor was incredibly inefficient and went backwards from Tang and Song Dynasty open trading economy to closed farming economy. Not because he was real stupid but because he was a psychopath that wanted a closed economy for him to control and benefit from. Hokkiens were sacrificed!
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Just like the psychopath @glockman that did not want interaction for good but disrupt the thread in the name of interaction.
 
AhMeng said:
Why don't you send Saint Gin some e-flowers or some XOXOXO emoticons.. You flirt! Any skirt also u chase..nabei :biggrin:
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Shhhhhh, like I said with this ugly one, I am going against my better nature and natural instinct. It's damned hard but I am trying :biggrin:
 
glockman said:
Shhhhhh, like I said with this ugly one, I am going against my better nature and natural instinct. It's damned hard but I am trying :biggrin:
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Hey pussies show your ccb face lah coward Malaysian pussies hiding behind computer bullying me. Pui your whore mother wife daughters phua cb
 
glockman said:
Oh dearie me, I sincerely thought you wanted to interact with me because you had fun interacting during our previous interactions. :laugh:
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Sexually harass women is called fun to ccb Malaysians pussies like you
 
ginfreely said:
Hey pussies show your ccb face lah coward Malaysian pussies hiding behind computer bullying me. Pui your whore mother wife daughters phua cb
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I see you wasted no time getting into character and jumping into your interaction with me, just like the old days. :biggrin:
 
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