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The role of the President is restrictive and bounded by the constitution. The candidates must clearly understand what he can and cannot do as a President. Based on what I’ve seen in the debates so far, I feel that only TT and TCB understand the role – sad to say. Dun get me wrong, this is from a neutral perspective; I’m not a PAP supporter but I’m still not comfortable with TJS. He seems to have a lot of anger inside him, like a volcano that will erupt anytime. One thing that made me apprehensive to vote for him is his previous association with SDP, a party helmed by a loose cannon. It made me think – is there a hidden agenda inside TJS as well? What will happen if he gets elected? Will he be a disruptive force and just oppose everything and anything the govt proposed, for the sake of opposing? Will there be a dispute between him and the govt on his actual job scope? Yes, we need an alternate voice but I thought that’s the job of the Opposition parties? How much can a President do in that sense? Provide checks and balance – to what extent? I want a President with integrity who will perform his duties honourably and fairly for his people and at the same time become a respected figurehead not just in Singapore but internationally as well. The last thing I want is a President who creates chaos and put us in the international news for all the wrong reasons.
You fellows here talk, think and analised as if you are people of high intellect and culture.
KNNBACCB, PAP does not pay or reward you people for thinking like them.
They frightened you people to behave the same so that any oppositions will be condemned like SDP.
When there is no election they tell you Singapore economy is affected by US and World economy and you need PAP to be in control.
When election comes they tell you our economy is dependent of political stability
Ya, go ahead and think on behalf of PAP while they continue with their plundering at your expense.
KNNBACCB, PAP does not pay or reward you people for thinking like them.
They frightened you people to behave the same so that any oppositions will be condemned like SDP.
When there is no election they tell you Singapore economy is affected by US and World economy and you need PAP to be in control.
When election comes they tell you our economy is dependent of political stability
Ya, go ahead and think on behalf of PAP while they continue with their plundering at your expense.
Yup can't disagree. There are a lot more.. the August clowns... and also from YPAP.
This person wrote quite a lengthy comment on TJS in another forum which sums up quite well for people who are interested to understand TJS before the voting. Hope he doesn't mind I copied it here. Check out the link for the original comment. 
http://theonlinecitizen.com/2011/08...ntial-election/comment-page-1/#comment-232340
Ethen Jin-Chew 25 August 2011
Going from being the son of a washer woman to graduating at Oxford via a scholarship speaks volumes about the man Tan Jee Say.
Just ask how many in our midst had travelled that path and now has the courage and conviction to come forward, express concern for the political direction our country is heading and wants to speak up and speak for the people as the Elected President?
To those who have vilified Tan Jee Say for being an opportunist I like to point out that opportunity for him to take the golden path of PAP’s yellow brick road was presented to him long time ago, he did not have to wait until now. He was already identified back in the GCT era for a political career with the establishment, but he walked away.
As a person with a mind of clarity, independent values and conscience, values that are mostly instilled by his thrifty upbringing, he could not come to terms with what he saw in the way the supposedly independent civil service was influenced and hijacked by the PAP government for political dominance. A great divide of economic and philosophic approach had emerged between him and the establishment.
TJS believes it is his duty when elected, to strive to raise awareness of the people on the one hand, and raise moral principle of governance of the PAP government on the other, all for the good of our country and our people.
He believes that Singapore needs such truly independent checks and balances in its system to sustain long-term survivability and broad base prosperity. And who can honestly disagree with that??
Tan Kin Lian says the casinos would have been okay if people are matured and disciplined enough to treat casino gaming as a pass time entertainment. In reality however, when people have easy access to casino they will very quickly become addictive to gambling. Social ills caused by the casino are escalating and TJS knows it. Truth about gambling is, nothing worth gaining is ever gained without effort, this particular form of vice erodes the spirit and the will to put in an honest day of work.
Having been trained in economics and political science, TJS disagrees with the concentration of political and financial power in the hands of the government. I just heard him said a few days ago in his speech that it is not the government’s business to engage in private businesses, and again I cannot fault this argument of his at all.
When a government, who has the power to legislate and do business at the same time, genuine mechanism of supplies and demands in the market inevitably gets distorted, tangibly or intangibly. As a result economic development takes on a path that is skewed, which leads to even greater concentration of financial resources and power in the hands of the few (government). That’s the situation our country is in right now. Tan Jee Say sees it and feels compelled to do something for our country before most of us have to mortgage our brains, our brawn, and every pulse of our hearts in order to pay our debts towards a system of moral and financial exploitation.
I am not talking about opposition politics here, because the fundamental truth in good governance transcends party politics and hidden political agenda. That’s the premise of an Elected President. In all that’s being said by TJS I do not hear it as the voice of the opposition, instead it is the voice of the people.
Tan Jee Say believes morals and ethics must play a greater role in formulating economic policies and people must be at the centre of the economy. The Elected President has the moral and ethical obligation to the people who put him in the Istana to ask question, to keep track of what the government is doing, especially on matters concerning the Singapore reserves.
For a government who believes that the destiny of man is measured by material computations and “profit-at-all-cost” is the prime mover of economic policies, the active role of an EP is even more critical.
Under President Nathan, we the citizen did not know what we were supposed to know about the reserves. Here I like to quote Donald Rumsfeld: We know there are known unknowns, that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns — the ones we don’t know we don’t know.
Do we really want to know??
http://theonlinecitizen.com/2011/08...ntial-election/comment-page-1/#comment-232340
Ethen Jin-Chew 25 August 2011
Going from being the son of a washer woman to graduating at Oxford via a scholarship speaks volumes about the man Tan Jee Say.
Just ask how many in our midst had travelled that path and now has the courage and conviction to come forward, express concern for the political direction our country is heading and wants to speak up and speak for the people as the Elected President?
To those who have vilified Tan Jee Say for being an opportunist I like to point out that opportunity for him to take the golden path of PAP’s yellow brick road was presented to him long time ago, he did not have to wait until now. He was already identified back in the GCT era for a political career with the establishment, but he walked away.
As a person with a mind of clarity, independent values and conscience, values that are mostly instilled by his thrifty upbringing, he could not come to terms with what he saw in the way the supposedly independent civil service was influenced and hijacked by the PAP government for political dominance. A great divide of economic and philosophic approach had emerged between him and the establishment.
TJS believes it is his duty when elected, to strive to raise awareness of the people on the one hand, and raise moral principle of governance of the PAP government on the other, all for the good of our country and our people.
He believes that Singapore needs such truly independent checks and balances in its system to sustain long-term survivability and broad base prosperity. And who can honestly disagree with that??
Tan Kin Lian says the casinos would have been okay if people are matured and disciplined enough to treat casino gaming as a pass time entertainment. In reality however, when people have easy access to casino they will very quickly become addictive to gambling. Social ills caused by the casino are escalating and TJS knows it. Truth about gambling is, nothing worth gaining is ever gained without effort, this particular form of vice erodes the spirit and the will to put in an honest day of work.
Having been trained in economics and political science, TJS disagrees with the concentration of political and financial power in the hands of the government. I just heard him said a few days ago in his speech that it is not the government’s business to engage in private businesses, and again I cannot fault this argument of his at all.
When a government, who has the power to legislate and do business at the same time, genuine mechanism of supplies and demands in the market inevitably gets distorted, tangibly or intangibly. As a result economic development takes on a path that is skewed, which leads to even greater concentration of financial resources and power in the hands of the few (government). That’s the situation our country is in right now. Tan Jee Say sees it and feels compelled to do something for our country before most of us have to mortgage our brains, our brawn, and every pulse of our hearts in order to pay our debts towards a system of moral and financial exploitation.
I am not talking about opposition politics here, because the fundamental truth in good governance transcends party politics and hidden political agenda. That’s the premise of an Elected President. In all that’s being said by TJS I do not hear it as the voice of the opposition, instead it is the voice of the people.
Tan Jee Say believes morals and ethics must play a greater role in formulating economic policies and people must be at the centre of the economy. The Elected President has the moral and ethical obligation to the people who put him in the Istana to ask question, to keep track of what the government is doing, especially on matters concerning the Singapore reserves.
For a government who believes that the destiny of man is measured by material computations and “profit-at-all-cost” is the prime mover of economic policies, the active role of an EP is even more critical.
Under President Nathan, we the citizen did not know what we were supposed to know about the reserves. Here I like to quote Donald Rumsfeld: We know there are known unknowns, that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns — the ones we don’t know we don’t know.
Do we really want to know??
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