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cow138

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Is gated and guarded good? Won't it be the same as condo security wise?
The problem with condo is that of the maintenance is lousy then no matter how nice your house is, it doesn't really matter. I feel that this is more prevalent in Malaysia.

Landed at least give you more control
 

Frodo

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Is gated and guarded good? Won't it be the same as condo security wise?
The problem with condo is that of the maintenance is lousy then no matter how nice your house is, it doesn't really matter. I feel that this is more prevalent in Malaysia.

Landed at least give you more control

I think guarded and gated is always better than not guarded and not gated....all things being equal. As for maintenance issue....just need to cross fingers and hope for best.
 

Relaxman

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Is gated and guarded good? Won't it be the same as condo security wise?
The problem with condo is that of the maintenance is lousy then no matter how nice your house is, it doesn't really matter. I feel that this is more prevalent in Malaysia.

Landed at least give you more control

Not much control if you buy strata titled landed property like eco summer and spring. The houses there have very bad floor design layout. Very bad feng shui design. However, you cannot do anything about it. No control at all.
 

cybermad

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Not much control if you buy strata titled landed property like eco summer and spring. The houses there have very bad floor design layout. Very bad feng shui design. However, you cannot do anything about it. No control at all.

Dun bash Eco projects again la. Not everyone believe in fengshui .
 

Relaxman

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Dun bash Eco projects again la. Not everyone believe in fengshui .

Not really bash la.... you ask yourself, can you accept house that all toilets without windows? This is really bad. Worst is they charge crazy maintenance fee. Eco summer charge around rm400 a month but without facilities like swimming pool and gym.
 

cybermad

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Not really bash la.... you ask yourself, can you accept house that all toilets without windows? This is really bad. Worst is they charge crazy maintenance fee. Eco summer charge around rm400 a month but without facilities like swimming pool and gym.

actually some shopping malls toilet also dun have windows still ok as long as ventilation systems working well.
 

Relaxman

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actually some shopping malls toilet also dun have windows still ok as long as ventilation systems working well.

Cannot compare apple and orange. We are talking about toilets in our own home..... not one but all toilets have this problem. Usually ventilation system won't able to get rid of the sewer odors fast compare to having windows to enable better air circulation.
 

whoami

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Wow. Even my pigeon hm toilet also have outlets for wind/air to masuk. Hw can i bath n do pte business without windows..
 

cow138

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Haha.. What I meant was that the external environment will be dependant on the maintenance of the management committee.
Unlike Singapore, culture of paying conservancy in Johor is not that strong..
The amount of emphasis on upkeep of the grounds will be weak if the residents are reluctant to pay for it.
 

kslresidence

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Be careful of the domestic helper part, many house owners robbed blind by them or their boyfriends, just friendly advice.

Ya similar horror stories heard from my friends in Singapore as well. Sense of security awareness is mandatory when you invite stranger to stay. Points taken. Thanks dude
 

Relaxman

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Wow. Even my pigeon hm toilet also have outlets for wind/air to masuk. Hw can i bath n do pte business without windows..

Just look at the Eco Summer example Milton type. So terrible.....cannot imagine the smell all over the dining hall...... how to eat??
 

borei

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hi relaxman,

are you sure Eco summer charge around rm400 a month for maintenance?

I believe you already know the pros and cons about strata landed, so let's skip this topic here.

About the toilet, its actually all about ventilation. If the toilet with ventilation equip installed, it will definately to provide air circulation.

Even toilet with window, you still need one and it will suck all the bad air out from the toilet lots faster. Or, when the wind blow in the wrong direction, all bad smelly fresh air is an great negative impact too.

In Taiwan, there is many high-end condo also has no window for toilet but with ventilation fan installed. You know why? during the typhoon time and winter time you just can't open the window at all. so there is a reason for doing so.

It just in MY & SG is not too common (but available on commercial shopping malls and 5-star hotels too, but you just ignore it and said those are different), but doesn't means will not have one. Oh yes, depend on how powerful of those fans too, of coz. my 2 cents.

Besides, I am a Summer buyer too.

Let's dont off topic here, any other projects related topic, please go to respective thread instead.
 

Relaxman

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hi relaxman,

are you sure Eco summer charge around rm400 a month for maintenance?

I believe you already know the pros and cons about strata landed, so let's skip this topic here.

About the toilet, its actually all about ventilation. If the toilet with ventilation equip installed, it will definately to provide air circulation.

Even toilet with window, you still need one and it will suck all the bad air out from the toilet lots faster. Or, when the wind blow in the wrong direction, all bad smelly fresh air is an great negative impact too.

In Taiwan, there is many high-end condo also has no window for toilet but with ventilation fan installed. You know why? during the typhoon time and winter time you just can't open the window at all. so there is a reason for doing so.

It just in MY & SG is not too common (but available on commercial shopping malls and 5-star hotels too, but you just ignore it and said those are different), but doesn't means will not have one. Oh yes, depend on how powerful of those fans too, of coz. my 2 cents.

Besides, I am a Summer buyer too.

Let's dont off topic here, any other projects related topic, please go to respective thread instead.

Hi borei,
Until now, you didn' t know how much EcoWorld will charge you on the maintenance fee? That is risky. The salesman keep increasing the rate each time you ask them. At the beginning, they said is 100 plus, than 200 plus, than 300 plus, now is around 400 plus minus. Very unethical. How can they charge so high but without any facilities provided to the residents? Anyway, for you as a eco summer buyer, i think as long as you don't buy the Milton Type, it is still acceptable if you don't mind the weird toilet design.
 

xixxix

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Is it true that after 3 to 5 years, the maintenance of condos will be so bad that it will lose much of its value?
 

Relaxman

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Is it true that after 3 to 5 years, the maintenance of condos will be so bad that it will lose much of its value?

I dont think so. However, landed property that charges exorbitant maintenance fee will be a problem. Not easy to rent out because condo is forever consider safer compare to landed unit.
 

Investor

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Long time no see, everyone.

I like both landed and nice condos. From my own assessment on safety of landed VS condos(both being G&G), my view is;
Probability of house breaking - Lower for condos
Probability of getting robbed while getting in and out of car and walking to your home - Lower for landed

Yes, even though Gated and Guarded, criminals can easily get inside our compound whether by climbing or through guardhouse.
 
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