Just found an interesting snippet from the past.
http://ourstory.asia1.com.sg/merger/lifeline/akimpos.html
http://ourstory.asia1.com.sg/merger/lifeline/akimpos.html
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MM Lee Still Harbour Ill Will Against Man Who Died 22 Yrs Ago - Forum Letter
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If Singaporeans want to thank anyone it has to be Tengku. He did what no other politcian did before or since - he gave away a state that he had legitimate reason to hold on to. He could have stopped working with the PAP, he could have arrested the old man for sedition, he could have arrested the old man for inciting riots but he chose a peaceful way.
Imagine you are the PM of a country but the chief minister of a small state making state visits all over the world as though he was ranked number one in protcol. Imagine in front of your King, a Chinese telling the parliament that their Malay leaders are not suitable to run the country.
This is the same old man that cannot tolerate dissent or alternative views. This is same man that sued people to bankruptcy. This same man that put away 112 people at the eve of a crucial elections. This is the same man that held a man without trial for 23 years. This is the same man that till today has no respect for others. This is the same man that commandeered an entire jumbo to bring his wife back despite a number of well establised medical evacuation air services with special fitted equipment and facilities available. This is the same man whose family and him claimed that they were not aware of discounts given. This is the same man whose brother arranged for discounts from a public listed company whose own shareholders were not given privileges and which fell afoul of the Companies Act.
Syed Albar was so shocked that he resigned immediately. Razak at that moment in time decided that he will not allow any non-malay did control the destiny of the country. The damage this man did the non-bumi of Malaysia cannot be measured.
This same man when the question is raised, will throw it on Toh's head.
This is the same man whose son at the recent national day rally praised the Malaysian architect for the PInnacle as a foreign talent but failed to disclose that he grew up in Singapore and refused to give up his Malaysian citizenship despite being in this country for 3 decades.
I continued to be dismayed by many Singaporeans who have no idea about their history.
Imagine you are the PM of a country but the chief minister of a small state making state visits all over the world as though he was ranked number one in protcol. Imagine in front of your King, a Chinese telling the parliament that their Malay leaders are not suitable to run the country.
This is the same old man that cannot tolerate dissent or alternative views. This is same man that sued people to bankruptcy. This same man that put away 112 people at the eve of a crucial elections. This is the same man that held a man without trial for 23 years. This is the same man that till today has no respect for others. This is the same man that commandeered an entire jumbo to bring his wife back despite a number of well establised medical evacuation air services with special fitted equipment and facilities available. This is the same man whose family and him claimed that they were not aware of discounts given. This is the same man whose brother arranged for discounts from a public listed company whose own shareholders were not given privileges and which fell afoul of the Companies Act.
Syed Albar was so shocked that he resigned immediately. Razak at that moment in time decided that he will not allow any non-malay did control the destiny of the country. The damage this man did the non-bumi of Malaysia cannot be measured.
This same man when the question is raised, will throw it on Toh's head.
This is the same man whose son at the recent national day rally praised the Malaysian architect for the PInnacle as a foreign talent but failed to disclose that he grew up in Singapore and refused to give up his Malaysian citizenship despite being in this country for 3 decades.
I continued to be dismayed by many Singaporeans who have no idea about their history.
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He said himself, he himself won't rest in peace too even when he's dead.
If he sees something wrong, he'll rise up from his grave.
God look very worried to have a second begotten son.
This old man is definitely less forgiving and charitable than his first son.
While I agree with all the points here, I will like to add on that the Malay leaders' distrust of the Chinese is not just Old Man alone, but also the Malayan Emergency that is still fresh on their mind, having only ended in 1960.
After all, the main leaders of the communist insurgents are mostly Chinese after all (Chin Peng and The Plen) with only a handful of junior-ranked Malays and Indians. The ultra-Malays grabbed this as a chance to stir up hatred against the Chinese.
Of course, they conveniently failed to mention that a prominent Chinese, Tan Cheng Lok, of the MCA, fought hard against the communists (who were his own kind) and was injured by a grenade blast.
So I guess it is a mix of Old Man's insatiable greed + communist insurgency that made UMNO more hardline in protecting Malay rights.
He's above the law. He outlawed wearing knuckle-dusters and carrying hatchets. Yet he threatens that he wear knuckle-dusters and carry hatchets. It's a metaphor of course, but you know what he means.
Actually, one of the reasons why he actually wants to ditch SG is coz of the Chinese population. He wants to keep the status quo and make sure that the Malays will always remain the majority.
The problem with just trying to get rid of LKY by using the method that U state will not work unless the Tungku is see bloodshed.
LKY's popularity in SG back then was unquestionable and add onto the already tense political situation, its likely there will be mass protests/riots if they go down that road. Not to mention UMNO was not popular in SG back then either. They didnt even win a single seat during the elections in SG
On top of that, the biggest argument between PAP and UMNO back then was PAP was fighting for a Malaysian Malaysia while UMNO was going down what they have today, the pro Bumiputra policy. If riots turns into a conflict, supports of the Malaysian Malaysia ideals may well just join the locals. The racial riots back then probably helped convinced him on this point
The Tengku who just not long ago finished fighting the communist probably didnt want to go into another war so soon.
You referring to this?
Hong Xiuquan claimed that the illness he had following his imperial examinations was in fact a vision to the effect that he was the younger brother of Jesus, who was sent to rid China of the corrupt Manchu Qing Dynasty rulers. After this alleged vision, he felt it was his duty to spread Christianity (in the form that he developed it) and overthrow the foreign rule of the Qing. Hong's associate Yang Xiuqing was a former firewood merchant of Guangxi, who claimed to be able to act as a voice of God, in order to direct the people and gain political power.
( Taiping Rebellion 1850-1864)
So that maketh LKY the 3rd brother....:p
When the PAP contested the 1964 federal election, they lost all seats except Bangsar.
LKY couldnt be more unpopular in the Federation! It was more humiliating to LKY and PAP than to tengku or the UMNO not winning in SG.
That is a signal that the Malaysian Chinese did not abandon MCA for the PAP.
LKY couldnt be more unpopular in the Federation! It was more humiliating to LKY and PAP than to tengku or the UMNO not winning in SG.
That is a signal that the Malaysian Chinese did not abandon MCA for the PAP.
That's an understatement!
To say that the man is a beast would also be incorrect, because a lion for example kills just enough to fill his stomach. This thing kills and kills again and again. Either he is an incurable coward or he has a rock for a heart.
To say that the man is a beast would also be incorrect, because a lion for example kills just enough to fill his stomach. This thing kills and kills again and again. Either he is an incurable coward or he has a rock for a heart.
No, I'm referring to what LKY said himself, he'd rise up from the grave if he sees something wrong with Singapore. (I think it was National Day Rally 198#.)
This is not about joining or separating from Malaysia.
LKY was no savior of Singapore or a person with foresight. He was(still is) a self-serving, power-hungry, ambitious man. Tunku Abdul Rahman correctly saw through his bullshit, knew full well he was a troublemaker, and hence Singapore was kicked out.
Sure, in retrospect you can say Singapore's independence was a blessing in disguise. But there is a price to pay for everything. What you gain in GDP, infrastructure etc, you lose in other, often intangible aspects.
Some of you people still give LKY too much credit that what he truly deserves. Too much consumption of NDPs, National Education and reading of his memoirs without a critical eye will do this to you. The schools' history books do not mention how LKY backstabbed the Barisan Socialis and how LKY orchestrated a purge that would have made even Stalin proud.
LKY does not care about Singapore or Singaporeans. All he cares for is the perpetuation of the Lee clan, and the hegemony of the PAP. He has a mesmerizing way with words, but that is to be expected of folks trained in the legal profession.
LKY was no savior of Singapore or a person with foresight. He was(still is) a self-serving, power-hungry, ambitious man. Tunku Abdul Rahman correctly saw through his bullshit, knew full well he was a troublemaker, and hence Singapore was kicked out.
Sure, in retrospect you can say Singapore's independence was a blessing in disguise. But there is a price to pay for everything. What you gain in GDP, infrastructure etc, you lose in other, often intangible aspects.
Some of you people still give LKY too much credit that what he truly deserves. Too much consumption of NDPs, National Education and reading of his memoirs without a critical eye will do this to you. The schools' history books do not mention how LKY backstabbed the Barisan Socialis and how LKY orchestrated a purge that would have made even Stalin proud.
LKY does not care about Singapore or Singaporeans. All he cares for is the perpetuation of the Lee clan, and the hegemony of the PAP. He has a mesmerizing way with words, but that is to be expected of folks trained in the legal profession.
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Standing Ovation!!!!! Guess who the old man was crying for?
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I think it was the Tun, who as a Finance Minister, wanted Singapore to pay more hefty taxes to the Federal Government in KL after joining Malaysia. He also went back on his promise to form the Common Market which allows Singapore's manufactured goods access to the Malaysia market.
LKY can't forget that because it meant that Singapore will never be able to survive while within Malaysia. The Tun's message was clear "kill Singapore economically". Goh Keng Swee and LKY will never forget that.
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