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drifteri

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I choose to continue to expose your abysmal ignorance of Christianity.

Yar loh, we know you would choose the sweet spot here instead of carrying the cross over in the middle east :wink: Fake christain! Fake Jew! Fake Asian! Fake Ang Moh! Shameless hypocrite:p
 

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Yar loh, we know you would choose the sweet spot here instead of carrying the cross over in the middle east :wink: Fake christain! Fake Jew! Fake Asian! Fake Ang Moh! Shameless hypocrite:p

Bible got teach need to carry cross in Middle East? Know what? Don't answer, save yourself the embarrassment.
 

drifteri

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Bible got teach need to carry cross in Middle East? Know what? Don't answer, save yourself the embarrassment.

I mark you words. Bible got teach you need to evangelize in sammyboy? Bible got teach circumcision, did you obey? Double head snake talk cock again.
 

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drifteri

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(Jesus speaking) "Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon earth. I have come bring not peace but the sword. For I have come to set a man 'against his father, a daug against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one's enemie be those of his household'". (Matthew 10:34-36 NAB)

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beensetfree

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The Issue of Money


Shortage of money is the number one common factor in the hundreds
of prayer requests that we receive each week .

If money is not the central issue, a money shortage is usually
present in both marriage difficulties and health problems.

A sizable percentage of readers deal with money
shortage issues.

Some think it doesn't belong in an inspirational email but let
your money get tight and get an unexpected check and see if that
doesn't inspire you.

I want to address the issue of money as briefly as I can.
For a few, my experience may shed a new light on your situation.
Some may have a radically different opinion, that is expected;
but for many, this will help change your view and possibly your
approach to your money situation.

I deal with more money shortage situations than most people
simply by virtue of being a Pastor of a church and a businessman.
People come to me, both for advice and money in both the church
and business worlds.

Hopefully the eight principles below will help.

Principle #1 - Hardly anyone has enough money.
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At a recent meeting in my company, some thought I was bragging
when I said that I had enough money. I was absolutely serious.
I have always had enough money, but I have not always made a lot
of money.

When I earned less than minimum wage, I had enough money.
When I earned minimum wage, I had enough money.
I have enough money now.

Someone asked the multi-billionaire John D. Rockefeller
the question of "How much money is enough?"

His answer was, "One more dollar than I have."
He therefore, would never have enough, no matter how many
billions he had.

I have seen people earn more than double what they were earning
in the previous year and they still did not have enough money.

Money is one of those things where unless the spirit gets right,
you never have enough. Having enough money is primarily a matter
of spirit, not amount, understand this.



Principle #2 - You are rich when you have enough.
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Don't be like Rockefeller or else you will forever be dissatisfied.

Often our change from poor to rich is more spiritual than financial.
It is why Paul could say if you have food and clothing then you
should be content.

Perhaps we should realize that instead of struggling so hard to
get more that we should simply want less. The problem with
wanting more is that it never stops, and most find that even when
they get "the stuff," it's not what they thought in terms of real
contentment.

Jesus said:
a. The Kingdom of God is within
b. It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle
than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

Everyone wants the kingdom, yet everyone also wants to be rich.

I preached a sermon called, "The Roughest Verse in the Bible."
It was concerning this basic principle. You can listen to it on
WMA (best) http://www.theonlineword.com/s/5125.wma
MP3 http://www.theonlineword.com/mp3/5125.mp3

Just maybe, for many of you, you have enough already.



Principle #3 - Neither The New Testament of the Bible or any of
the teachings of Jesus promise nor promote material wealth.
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Some will argue against this to an extreme, but I have looked for
it over and over in the New Testament of the Bible. It simply is
not there unless you take a scripture and twist it to mean what
it really didn't say or you must make speculations about things
that aren't written in scripture.

No words in the New Testament promote wealth when looked at in
context. NONE!

"What about when Jesus told the disciples where to fish and they
had the great haul of fish?" you ask.

Read what they did with the increase after they got it. The
disciples ate from the fish then left the fish to follow Jesus.
When you read exactly what they did, the pattern becomes clear.

We can sometimes be masters at making scripture say what it never
meant because it is what people want to hear and it often justifies
our own agenda.

Jesus NEVER pointed us towards material wealth; he did quite the
opposite when you read what he actually said.

Many passages plainly point you away from riches but none plainly
point you towards it, not in the New Testament.

And no, the verse, "Beloved, I wish above all things that thou
mayest prosper and be in health," is not talking about riches.

Paul said in 1 Timothy 6:8, that if you have food and clothing
you should be content. I thought about that verse as I was
alone one day. I had a BIG problem with it then, and I still
struggle to fully understand and accept it.

"What about shelter?" I thought.
How in the world does God expect you to be content with no house?
That just didn't make any sense to me.

So I asked God in a quiet moment, "How can a person be content
with no house?" God answered me and though I didn't like the
answer, the minute I heard it, I recognized the truth of it.

The answer was, "Did my son have a house?"

"Whoa!"

Jesus replied, "Foxes have holes and birds of the air have
nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay his head."
(Mat 8:20 NIV)

Not only are we not happy with food and clothing, we often aren't
happy even in medium or large houses. We want mansions and guess
what? Given enough time, we often aren't happy in those either.



Principle #4 - Rich and poor are relative terms.
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I went to the Amazon jungle. I wanted to see the rain forest
before man destroyed it. The children in the jungle were excited
to see an ink pen.

We trekked through the jungle all day with a native guide.
He said our hike would culminate by visiting the rich man's house.

I was expecting a huge mansion overlooking the river. When we
got to his house, it indeed sat on a hill, but it was hardly a
mansion. It was more like a shack on a hill. His house was
distinguished by the fact that it had a generator. The rich man
had electricity. When the rest of the village was dark, he had
light, therefore everyone in the village considered him
"The Rich Man."

I learned a great lesson from that. He had no indoor plumbing,
no air conditioning, no marble counters or carpeted floors. His
house would not even meet minimum building codes in the poorest
neighborhoods in America. However, he had electricity when
everyone else was in the dark, therefore he was rich.

In many parts of the world, what we consider poverty is
considered great wealth. We have so much food in America that
eating too much causes America's biggest health problems.



Principle #5 - Happiness is not dependent on money.
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The Amazon jungle was perhaps the poorest area that I have ever
visited. There was no industry. The huts did not even have
doors. Yet, in the midst of what many would consider extreme
poverty by American standards, again I saw something.

The people were quite happy.

The ability to sense spirit is something God gave me long ago.
When I sold newspapers as a boy through many of the neighborhoods
in Atlanta, the minute people opened the door, I could sense
whether the house was happy or sad.

I sold newspapers in the richest and poorest of neighborhoods.
Both had their share of happy and sad homes.

The guide told us as we walked through the village with the
doorless huts, "We marry around 13 or 14."

"13 or 14?" I repeated, amazed at such a young marrying age.

"What is the divorce rate?" I asked.

"Less than 5%," he replied.

Again I saw that material possessions don't guarantee happiness.
We have relatively huge wealth along with a relatively huge
divorce rate.



Principle #6 - One American family has contributed to more
financial disaster than any other.
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The Joneses.

Because we often try to keep up with the Joneses, it strains our
finances to the limit and beyond. My father, often quoted,
"If your outgo exceeds your income then your upkeep will become
your downfall."

Too often we live way above our means. I have always had enough
money because I have always kept my expenses well below my income.
Whether you earn millions or minimum wage, the principle applies.

Years ago my wife began selling a nutritional system.
The system had a cassette tape explaining it. She went
throughout several Atlanta upper income neighborhoods putting
the tapes in mailboxes.

She only selected the fancy houses as she only had a limited
number of tapes.

Six people responded wanting the system. The system cost $100.

Of the six people who responded, not ONE had $100. Each had a
story of why they had to wait until payday or could only pay a
part now but none had $100.

"How could that be?" my wife asked. "I specifically only put
these tapes in BIG houses. They all had two fancy cars and
$200,000 plus houses. How could their finances be so tight that
they don't have $100?" she kept asking me.

Because they lived next to The Joneses,
who lived next to The Joneses, who lived next to The Joneses,
who lived next to ...



Principle #7 - Lack of a budget.
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At the church, I have a financial expert teach a class each
month. It is a six-part series that we repeat each six months.
It teaches people how to manage their money. We often tell
people in the church to give 10% of their money to the church,
but we give them no knowledge on how to manage the other 90%.

People came to me with testimonies about how the class changed
their financial lives. The first thing the expert did was to
have everyone create a budget.

NO ONE had a budget. No one could say exactly how much they
were spending. Sure, they all knew what the rent or mortgage
was, but it was often the "other" stuff that sunk them. No one
could tell you with any degree of accuracy exactly what they
were spending as a total.

The expert told the story of how one lady had come to him for a
loan. She wanted to buy a car. She was going to pay for the
car by the week at one of those "pay by the week" places.

She got angry at him when he would not lend her the money.
He had her to do a budget. When she did, she was shocked to see
that the weekly payments plus what she was spending on other
stuff added up to more than what she was earning. If he had
loaned her the money for the down payment on the car, it would
have been sure financial disaster.

WRITE IT DOWN exactly how much you spend each month on
EVERYTHING. You may be surprised. Just something as simple as
a two pack a day cigarette habit is $200.00 per month.



Principle #8 - Learn the principle of giving.
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I cannot logically explain this, but I know it is true. It is
no accident that the U.S. is the most prosperous country on the
face of the earth, but we also give more than any other country
on earth.

Yes, I know the U.S. has flaws but that doesn't change the
principle or the result. We benefit from our benevolence;
we suffer for our malice.

God spoke a Word of Wisdom to me personally concerning money.

"Anything beyond sufficiency is insignificant."

It has taken me a long time to understand that but the longer I
live, the more convinced I am of that truth.

Money is similar to food. You need it; if you run short, it gets
very uncomfortable and even unhealthy. Yet excess consumption
has great dangers. Having excess food is wonderful if you do
the right thing. The problem is not in having the excess; the
excess is a blessing. The challenge is in doing the right thing
with the excess.

Even the Old Testament of the Bible listed lack of both money and
food as a curse and its abundance a blessing. The problem was
that it wasn't long after the abundance that the people became
corrupt. It is very hard to keep abundance in balance.

That's why Jesus said it was HARD for a rich man to enter the
kingdom of God.

Money has always been and always will be an issue.
It traps most in this world; it even traps most of us preachers.

"No servant can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one
and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise
the other. You cannot serve both God and Money."
The Pharisees, (ministers and priests) who loved money, heard all
this and were sneering at Jesus. He said to them, "You are the ones
who justify yourselves in the eyes of men, but God knows your hearts.
What is highly valued among men is detestable in God's sight.
(Luke 16:13-15 NIV)

The messages of this week have presented you with the principles
for abundance and some guidance for using the abundance.

I wrote an issue on what God specifically spoke to me concerning
how to handle the blessing of money.

Remember that a golden chain binds just as tight as an iron one.
 

drifteri

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Frodo said:
But even before you read this book, can you tell me ALL that Jesus taught about Militant Christianity? You know, the kind that says to convert or else die under the sword?

Your hyprocrisy is reviewed to the bare:wink:Fake christain! Fake jew! Fake ang mo! Fake asian! Fake EUNUCH! :biggrin::wink: Your will be dangling your christian sword till you see blood if not for secular laws. Dumb fools believe secular laws are created by satan to disadvantage christains. And you are one! The difference here your ignorance of your own Bible is established by proving not empty claim which is your practice ... whahhaha! :wink:
 

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Your hyprocrisy is reviewed to the bare:wink:Fake christain! Fake jew! Fake ang mo! Fake asian! Fake EUNUCH! :biggrin::wink: Your will be dangling your christian sword till you see blood if not for secular laws. Dumb fools believe secular laws are created by satan to disadvantage christains. And you are one! The difference here your ignorance of your own Bible is established by proving not empty claim which is your practice ... whahhaha! :wink:

Where in the Bible does it teach that Christians are to brandish a sword to draw the blood of the unconverted? Oh wait, you can't answer this question. I get it. Better to keep silent and save whatever face there is left of yourself. The more you answer the more glaring is your abysmal ignorance of the Bible. But then again, I hope you would attempt to answer.
 

drifteri

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Where in the Bible does it teach that Christians are to brandish a sword to draw the blood of the unconverted? Oh wait, you can't answer this question. I get it. Better to keep silent and save whatever face there is left of yourself. The more you answer the more glaring is your abysmal ignorance of the Bible. But then again, I hope you would attempt to answer.

I already posted the verse 1-2 weeks ago, you cannot read or find not my problem:wink:
dumb hypocrite! Fake christain! Fake jew! Fake ang mo! Fake asian! Fake EUNUCH! You are giving me lot of fun:wink:
 

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I already posted the verse 1-2 weeks ago, you cannot read or find not my problem:wink:
dumb hypocrite! Fake christain! Fake jew! Fake ang mo! Fake asian! Fake EUNUCH! You are giving me lot of fun:wink:

With your kind of distorted interpretations, any verse also can be answer so long as you can twist and shout.
 

drifteri

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With your kind of distorted interpretations, any verse also can be answer so long as you can twist and shout.

The audience who read that verse will know I have not made any commentary. You are the dumb idiot distorting the actual meaning of the jewish writer:wink:
Fake christain! Fake jew! Fake ang mo! Fake asian! Fake EUNUCH! :biggrin::wink: whahhaha!
 

beensetfree

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AUTOBIOGRAPHY IN FIVE SHORT CHAPTERS


CHAPTER 1

I walk down the street.
There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.
I fall in.
I am lost... I am hopeless.
It isn't my fault.
It takes forever to find a way out.

CHAPTER 2

I walk down the same street.
There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.
I pretend I don't see it.
I fall in again.
I can't believe I am in the same place.
But... it isn't my fault.

CHAPTER 3

I walk down the same street.
There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.
I see it is there.
I still fall in. It's a habit.
My eyes are open.
I know where I am.
It is my fault.
I get out immediately.

CHAPTER 4

I walk down the same street.
There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.
I walk around it.

CHAPTER 5

I walk down another street.
 

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For since with this city, which is called by my name, I begin to inflict how can you possibly be spared? You shall not be spared! I will call the sword upon all who inhabit the earth, says the Lord of hosts. (Je 25:29 NAB)
 

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The audience who read that verse will know I have not made any commentary. You are the dumb idiot distorting the actual meaning of the jewish writer:wink:
Fake christain! Fake jew! Fake ang mo! Fake asian! Fake EUNUCH! :biggrin::wink: whahhaha!

Your insinuations are already suggestive of your distorted interpretations. BTW, if I am distorting the actual meaning, does it mean you know the actual meaning? How else then can you allege me of distortion?
 
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