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Japanese Unit 731 - Horrendous Karma

Sideswipe

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The 2 atomic bomb actually saved lots of Japanese lives.

If not for the bombs, Japan can't find a good reason to tell their peoples that they want to surrender, they will fight on. The Allies will fight all the way to Tokyo, the casualties rates for them will be 10 times higher than the 2 bombs dropped on the 2 cities.

worse still, this could happen. Russia and USA could invade Japan together. The result - Japan will be split into two - like Korea and Germany. This is the worst scenario and a reality If Japan refused to surrender fast.

Later, the communists takeover of China in 1949 meant that Japan was an important buffer against Red China in East Asia. The Americans gave massive aids to build up Japan economy until the mid 1950s.

Those lucky 小日本...
 

singveld

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wow being second richest country in the world and envy of the world in 80's a karma. it must be a good one.

Mr Makino was stationed there during the war. What he never told anybody, including his wife, was that during the four months before Japan's defeat in March 1945, he dissected ten Filipino prisoners of war, including two teenage girls. He cut out their livers, kidneys and wombs while they were still alive. Only when he cut open their hearts did they finally perish.

These barbaric acts were, he said this week, "educational", to improve his knowledge of anatomy. "We removed some of the organs and amputated legs and arms. Two of the victims were young women, 18 or 19 years old. I hesitate to say it but we opened up their wombs while they were still alive to show the younger soldiers. They knew very little about women - it was sex education."

The secret government department which organised such experiments in Japanese-occupied China took delight in experimenting on their subjects while they were still alive.

A jovial old Japanese farmer who in the war had been a medical assistant in a Japanese army unit in China described to a U.S. reporter recently what it was like to dissect a Chinese prisoner who was still alive.

Munching rice cakes, he reminisced: "The fellow knew it was over for him, and so he didn't struggle when they led him into the room and tied him down. But when I picked up the scalpel, that's when he began screaming. I cut him open from the chest to the stomach and he screamed terribly, and his face was all twisted in agony.

"He made this unimaginable sound, he was screaming so horribly. But then finally he stopped.

"This was all in a day's work for the surgeons, but it really left an impression on me because it was my first time." The man could not be sedated, added the farmer, because it might have distorted the experiment.

The place where these atrocities occurred was an undercover medical experimentation unit of the Imperial Japanese Army. It was known officially as the Anti-Epidemic Water Supply and Purification Bureau - but all the Japanese who worked there knew it simply as Unit 731.


Above quoted from :
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-439776/Doctors-Depravity.html

Wikipedia on Unit 731
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

Unit 731 dramatized on YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdH7VQ3lzVk
 

kensington

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wow being second richest country in the world and envy of the world in 80's a karma. it must be a good one.

KARMA really is a bitch and she hasn't really arrive yet.

Those two tiny nukes were just preludes and the grander scheme of things to come will be more horrendous.
 

singveld

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KARMA really is a bitch and she hasn't really arrive yet.

Those two tiny nukes were just preludes and the grander scheme of things to come will be more horrendous.

i cannot think of anything else that will be horrendous to Japan in my life time. Can you gave an example?
 

cocobobo

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savagery towards other nations is common in times of war...

maybe the japanese are uniquely cruel (perhaps their sexual deviations and self-loathing have something to do with this) but how far away are they from the treatment dished out by the nazis, the serbs, the mongols, etc etc.

there was a book on the nanking massacre by iris chang. she mentioned its the scale of it that differentiates the japs from other acts of human brutality. its a horrendous read (she committed suicide later). still, the point above remains.
 

Serpico

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Now I understand why japan is plaque with earthquakes and volcanic eruptions.

Ten percent of the world's active volcanoes are found in Japan, which lies in a zone of extreme crustal instability. They are formed by subduction of the Pacific and Philippine plates. As many as 1,500 earthquakes are recorded yearly, and magnitudes of four to six on the Richter scale are not uncommon. Minor tremors occur almost daily in one part of the country or another, causing slight shaking of buildings. Major earthquakes occur infrequently; the most famous in the twentieth century were: the great Kantō earthquake of 1923, in which 130,000 people died; and the Great Hanshin Earthquake of 17th January 1995, in which 6,434 people died. Undersea earthquakes also expose the Japanese coastline to danger from tsunamis.


Mount Fuji at sunrise from Lake KawaguchiMount Bandai is one of Japan's most noted volcanoes, rises above the north shore of Lake Inawashiro. Mount Bandai is formed of several overlapping stratovolcanoes, the largest of which is O-Bandai forming a complex volcano. O-Bandai volcano was constructed within a horseshoe-shaped caldera that formed about 40,000 years when an earlier volcano collapsed, forming the Okinajima debris avalanche, which traveled to the southwest and was accompanied by a plinian eruption. Four major phreatic eruptions have occurred during the past 5,000 years, two of them in historical time, in 806 and 1888. Seen from the south, Bandai presents a conical profile, but much of the north side of the volcano is missing as a result of the collapse of Ko-Bandai volcano during the 1888 eruption, in which a debris avalanche buried several villages and formed several large lakes.

Nearly a century ago, the north flank of Mount Bandai collapsed during an eruption quite similar to the May 18, 1980 eruption of Mount St. Helens. After a week of seismic activity, a large earthquake on July 15, 1888, was followed by a tremendous noise and a large explosion. Eyewitnesses heard about 15 to 20 additional explosions and observed that the last one was projected almost horizontally to the north.

Mount Fuji is Japan's highest and most noted volcano. The modern postglacial stratovolcano is constructed above a group of overlapping volcanoes, remnants of which form irregularities on Fuji's profile. Growth of the younger Mount Fuji began with a period of voluminous lava flows from 11,000 to 8,000 years ago, accounting for four-fifths of the volume of the younger Mount Fuji. Minor explosive eruptions dominated activity from 8,000 to 4,500 years ago, with another period of major lava flows occurring from 4,500 to 3,000 years ago. Subsequently, intermittent major explosive eruptions occurred, with subordinate lava flows and small pyroclastic flows. Summit eruptions dominated from 3,000 to 2,000 years ago, after which flank vents were active. The extensive basaltic lava flows from the summit and some of the more than 100 flank cones and vents blocked drainages against the Tertiary Misaka Mountains on the north side of the volcano, forming the Fuji Five Lakes. The last eruption of this dominantly basaltic volcano in 1707 ejected andesitic pumice and formed a large new crater on the east flank. Scientists are saying that there may be some minor volcanic activity in the next few years.
 

drifter

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The 2 atomic bomb actually saved lots of Japanese lives.

If not for the bombs, Japan can't find a good reason to tell their peoples that they want to surrender, they will fight on. The Allies will fight all the way to Tokyo, the casualties rates for them will be 10 times higher than the 2 bombs dropped on the 2 cities.

worse still, this could happen. Russia and USA could invade Japan together. The result - Japan will be split into two - like Korea and Germany. This is the worst scenario and a reality If Japan refused to surrender fast.

Later, the communists takeover of China in 1949 meant that Japan was an important buffer against Red China in East Asia. The Americans gave massive aids to build up Japan economy until the mid 1950s.

Those lucky 小日本...



Face the facts: The Japanese were blindly following Emperor Hirohito because they believe him to be a god, and this made them fight without fear of death. They would have fought until the very last man if the bombs had not been dropped. Those bombs made Hirohito realize that he was no god, he has been bested by a superior fighting force, and that this force was all too willing to wipe him from the face of this Earth if he didn't smarten up and concede to America.

it doesn't matter
don't judge any sides coz everyone was wrong and stupid back then...
the important thing is not to use or test nuclear weapons like stupid north korea! The innocents are ALWAYS who suffer for the war. Whats funny about destroying the lifes of 140 000 peoples ?
 

drifter

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You know, you can't judge an entire country on one moron's ( japan emperor ) response. now start thinking
 

Sideswipe

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Face the facts: The Japanese were blindly following Emperor Hirohito because they believe him to be a god, and this made them fight without fear of death. They would have fought until the very last man if the bombs had not been dropped. Those bombs made Hirohito realize that he was no god, he has been bested by a superior fighting force, and that this force was all too willing to wipe him from the face of this Earth if he didn't smarten up and concede to America.

actually, Emperor Hirohito had lost control of the Japanese government and army during WWII.

He was influential and responsible but not involved in every war decisions. It was the militaristic generals in the army who made the decision to go full scale war with China and Pearl Harbor.

When things went wrong, every Japanese ministers and generals lost their balls and pushed the blame to Emperor Hirohito.
 

hockbeng

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Most of those Japs responsible for WW2 atrocities were never brought to justice cos the allies were more busy chasing the Nazis since most of the victims in Europe were jews/whites.

Asians in those days were considered of a lesser class so no one really cares if thousands died; but it is a big deal if thousands of french, brits, americans or jews died.

Look at the number of movies made about WW2 and the suffering of the jews. WW2 is all about jews who suffered.

Strangely, hardly anyone mentions the suffering of asians for the past 60 years.
 

cowbehcowbu

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As a race, the Jap had committed extremely brtutal n sinful acts.in china,korea,south east asia...not sayinging that there are kind and decent peace-loving japs..this race .as a group will need to pay back their unforgivables sin as A GROUP KARMA. ...
like in heavens and hells.....punishment and rewards on earth and beyonds is NOT ESCAPABLR..
so the Jap got to start to pray for themself before the ultimate punishments camos..
like a Jap monk who go to the Massacre Museun in Nanking to pray for forgiveness for all the Japanese as a raceevery year ...he as a monks know that more punishments are awaiting for their race....
 

Ah Guan

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do you know it's the USA that actually indirectly stopped this 731 unit from being prosecuted.

after the dropping of atomic bomb, japan surrendered. and during those times, the japanese tried to burned all documents related to 731 unit. and the USA told the japan told if they want to keep their King and prevent their King from being hanged, they must surrender all documents and testing related to the gem warfare related to 731 unit. so the japanese imperial generals gave all their documents to save their King.

and that is the true story of why 731 unit is not being trial.

The Americans struck a similar deal with the Nazis.

WW2 German scientists were very close to perfecting the V2 rocket project which would have turned out to be the world's first medium range missile. This could have changed the course of history.

When Berlin fell, all the V2 project data was siezed by the Ruskies who continued on the development of rocket propulsion...

The Nazi scientists were given safe passage to the US and, in exchange for their freedom, restarted the rocketry project from scratch.

This actually gave birth to the US-USSR Space Race ... In the early years the Soviet had a headstart by sending the first cosmonuat to space. US eventually overtook them by landing on the Moon.
 

Ah Guan

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You know, you can't judge an entire country on one moron's ( japan emperor ) response. now start thinking

To be fair, I've heard from old timers that alot of the Jap Imperial soldiers who committed savage acts in SEA were not Japanese - they were actually Taiwanese or Korean recruits.

It's said these dogs fought harder than native Jap soldiers to prove their loyalty ... and committed alot of low class war crimes like rape, baby bayonetting, beheading etc to please their masters. (That's why I hate KBW the mudlaysian traitor cow)

As individuals the Japs are very well-mannered and overly polite. But as a race, they are very elitist and prone to be fanatical.
 

Sideswipe

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like a Jap monk who go to the Massacre Museun in Nanking to pray for forgiveness for all the Japanese as a raceevery year ...he as a monks know that more punishments are awaiting for their race....

Chinese will never forget Nanking Massacre.

Chinese Hypocrites!

Generalissimo Chiang who led China in 14 long years of sino-japanese war to final victory in 1945, was still unburied in Taipei, Taiwan and still unable to return back to Zhejiang, China

What matter is in 1945, under Chiang, The Japanese have lost the war and left the mainland. China have not lost any land in 1945 from 1931 when the war started. This is Chiang legacy, you can't cheat him of that.
 

cowbehcowbu

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Bros...those Taiwanese or Koreans were conscripted as MILITARY LABOURS.not soldiers..they were lower ranking than the lowest private Jap soldiers..ofteh beateb..humiliated .......I heard storey from older gens that these non-Japs actually could speak Hokkiens with the SEAchinese WHEN they were out of range of the Jap's eyes and eyes..many a time they help to SEAchinese escape death ........
Those who commited those crimes were real authentic Japs...as some with conscience HAD CONFESSED on tvs...
 

NissanViP

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during war times , nothing is right or wrong ( both country focus on win or lose )...look at america war on iraq , vetnam war ect ....i only pity those soliders who are being force to go out there , to take another solider life just because their country said so .

Bro - you are right, when comes to war, soldier are just i-idiots to follow blind command without considering what is right and what is wrong.

But I still love Jap girls, I hope this is right... :biggrin::biggrin:
 

ChaoPappyPoodle

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Unlike the Nazis, the Japanese Emperial people are sub-human. The Nazis, even Germans who are not Nazis can apologize for their country's sins.

The Japanese, until today will not do such a humane act.

The Jpanese will again in the future commit their atrocious acts and this time it will be 1000 times worse.

The Japanese still believe that their race is superior and all other races are sub-humans because the Japanese race is from God. They still believe in this and they will honor their god by again trying to conquer the world.

They are simply waiting for USA and Europe to succumb to the moslem scrouge. WHen that happens, the Japanese will be what they are and that is an evil nation.

Their entire history is full of military conquests against their neighbours. It has only been 60 years after their lost in WWII. And even their own history books lie about the loss of WWII and their atrocities.
 

Nice-Gook

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<style></style>The Japs are simply a barbaric race.Simple as that.Some years ago everyone worshipped everything Japanese.Why?Because they manufactured cheapest for the world.So Japanese management style was in vogue.Even their rituals were telecasted as if its a superior thing to do. ..sheesh.

All this talk of Japs committing inhumane atrocities just because they were following the divine orders of their emperor is undiluted filth of a lie.Watched this documentary on Pol Pot and his immediate prime minister was also saying the same.And that he is innocent.Mark my words when LKY perish every one of his ministers will probably say the same too.Following orders & were doing so out of fear ..

Now just remember this.Each and everyone of us are different.We are not clones nor robots.So goes to the Japanese who committed those crimes under the name of their emperor.If majority of the Japanese refuses to obey their emperor the emperor would have perished too.The Japs were privy to their emperor crimes.So were the 66.6% who voted PAP to the miseries of sinkies.
 
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