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BN may be guilty of massive electoral fraud

aurvandil

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With observers, it is quite hard to change close to 1 milion votes without being detected. The only viable method is via stuffed ballot boxes. This is however limited by high voter turnout. If not done properly, the vote count will be higher than the electoral register, giving proof positive of BN cheating.

Lets hope so.

Ballot slips and voting procedures in the voting centre also very messy. Use of pencil rather than pen, voting slips with no stamp, etc
 

ray_of_hope

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The main advantage for Pakatan is that polls close fairly early, at 5pm (unlike 8pm in S'pore and elsewhere).
If only few results come in before 10pm then we would know that more cheating is taking place at the counting stage.


This is what I had expected:

Voting closes, PKR agents told to leave one centre
Team Malaysiakini
7:44AM May 5, 2013
POLLING DAY - LIVE REPORTS

5.30pm: PKR's Lembah Pantai campaign office has informed the party that all its counting agents at SM Seri Pantai have been told to leave the premises temporarily.

The EC gave the order after voting closed, because its staff 'need to rest'.

The 15 counting agents there have refused to leave, on the ground that they have a right to have observe all parts of the voting process especially the whereabouts of the ballots at all times.

PKR has urged the EC to advise its officers to comply with the rules and regulations governing elections.
 

kensington

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Najib's head is probably on the block now:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin: MOOHEEDEEN is sharpening the Parang oredi.:eek:



BYE-BYE MCA CHAOCHEEBYE, which contested 37 Parliament seats and 90 state seats, suffered its worst defeat in its history - winning six Parliament seats and 10 state seats.
:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

It also meant that MCA lost more than 50 percent of the seats it won in the last election. It won 15 Parliament seats and 31 state seats in 2008.:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:


The Malaysians really shown the doors to them.:oIo::oIo::oIo:





Here are some quick observations:

1) The three states that Pakatan Rakyat has retained - Selangor, Penang and Kelantan - were all won by two-thirds majority:

Selangor - Pakatan 44, BN 12
Penang - Pakatan 30, BN 10
Kelantan - Pakatan 33, BN 12

2) Gerakan is left with just one seat - Simpang Renggam in Johor, which was successfully defended by Liang Teck Meng.

3) DAP is the biggest winners (it gained 10 seats overall), while both PKR and PAS lost one and two seats respectively compared to the 2008 results.

4) The seven additional seats gained by Pakatan are from Sabah (2 seats) and Sarawak (five seats).

5) Early calculations indicate that Pakatan Rakyat has won slightly more popular votes than BN nationwide - 51% against 49%.

Numbers of Parliamentary Seats won by Pakatan Rakyat
DAP - 38
PKR - 30
PAS - 21



Final polling results are BN won by 133 to PR 89, an improvement for Pakatan over their 2008 performance where they just managed 140/82



Well, sikit-sikit, lama-lama jadi bukit !!!


Lim Kit Siang is still Da Man !!!!
 

kensington

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Pakatan Rakyat says that it would not accept the results, blaming the EC for manipulating the polls to ensure a BN victory.



PETALING JAYA: Barisan Nasional has formed the federal government by winning 133 out of 222 seats. In 2008, it won 140 seats.

Pakatan Rakyat meanwhile won 89 seats – seven more than their total in 2008.

DAP emerged as the biggest winner among Pakatan parties, romping home to win 38 seats. PKR won 30 seats while PAS brought home 21 seats.

In 2008, PKR was the biggest winner with its 31 seats, followed by DAP (28) and PAS (23).

Their slim defeat in the hands of BN left Pakatan’s bid to capture Putrajaya in tatters although their leaders remain steadfast in not accepting defeat which they came from a manipulated elections aimed at giving victory to the BN.

Earlier, BN managed to form a government with a simple majority by winning 112 seats at 12.50am. At that stage, Pakatan had won 58 seats, with DAP winning 28, PKR 18 and PAS 12.

BN also managed to win back Kedah with a slim majority and Perak by a single seat. It also retained its two thirds in Perlis and Sabah.

The coalition also retained power in Negeri Sembilan, Malacca, Johor, Pahang and Terengganu with Pakatan giving a good show in all these states.

Pakatan meanwhile had a massive win in Penang and made bigger grounds to retain Selangor. It also managed to offset the onslought from BN to keep Kelantan.

Documentary evidence

Speaking at a press conference early this morning, Prime Minister Najib Tun Razak hailed Barisan Nasional’s victory and called for a ‘time of national reconciliation’.

The prime minister praised the conduct of the election, which he described as ‘true, fair and transparent’. He asked Malaysians to accept the will of the people, respect the result and ‘show the world we are a mature democracy’.

Rejecting racial politics during the campaign as ‘unhealthy’, the prime minister called for the adoption of ‘policies that are moderate’, and decried extremism.

Pakatan Rakyat leader Anwar Ibrahim meanwhile said Pakatan would not accept the results unless Election Commission can explain the electoral fraud that happened during polling today.

Speaking at a press conference today, Anwar said that the opposition had documentary evidence of the dubious electoral process which happened throughout they day at various locations.

“My decision stands. It’s not fair to expect me to make a decision in an election which is fraudulent,” he said.


https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2013/05/05/unofficial-seats-won-by-bn-and-pakatan/
 

captainxerox

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With observers, it is quite hard to change close to 1 milion votes without being detected. The only viable method is via stuffed ballot boxes. This is however limited by high voter turnout. If not done properly, the vote count will be higher than the electoral register, giving proof positive of BN cheating.

would backfire if pakatan does not distance itself from the rumours of election fraud as it might mean pakatan is sore loser. if challenge the process, no end to it.
 

Narong Wongwan

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would backfire if pakatan does not distance itself from the rumours of election fraud as it might mean pakatan is sore loser. if challenge the process, no end to it.
did you not read or see vids from eye witnesses? the hordes of banglas, the fake ICs, those who got their names deleted, those discovered someone voted on their behalf, helicopters which dropped extra ballot boxes to counting centers etc........
even voters themselves say they got to come out in full force to defeat the phantoms.
every dirty trick in the book was used.
 

ThePlen

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only in malaysia... malaysia really boleh

did you not read or see vids from eye witnesses? the hordes of banglas, the fake ICs, those who got their names deleted, those discovered someone voted on their behalf, helicopters which dropped extra ballot boxes to counting centers etc........
even voters themselves say they got to come out in full force to defeat the phantoms.
every dirty trick in the book was used.
 

ThePlen

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best to not go malaysia for awhile. they are saying things like "chinese tsunami" and "malaysia spring"


Malaysia: Reeling from Chinese tsunami

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By Joceline Tan
The Star/Asia News Network
Monday, May 06, 2013

A Chinese tsunami swept over the country last night. It ripped through all the seats that had a significant Chinese electorate and devastated Gerakan and (MCA) Malaysian Chinese Association in the peninsula and Sarawak United Peoples' Party (SUPP) in Sarawak.

The tsunami was basically about the Chinese electorate going for change. The result was that the Democratic Action Party (DAP) emerged the big winner, making new gains everywhere, including in Johor.

But it was evident that the Pakatan Rakyat slogan of "ABU, or Asalkan Bukan Umno (Anything But Umno)" had also resonated with the urban populace in general because Pakatan regained Selangor with a two-thirds majority.

The Chinese tsunami also helped to carry many of the People's Justice Party (PKR) candidates in many of the mixed seats.

However, the tsunami could not quite make it to Putrajaya.

At about 1am, a solemn-looking Najib Razak announced that Barisan Nasional had a simple majority to form the government.

At press time, Barisan had attained 133 seats, still short of the 138-seat majority won by his predecessor Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.

Najib was clearly disappointed but he spoke in a calm and steady voice as he urged everyone to accept the election result as part of the democratic process.

The Malay electorate, especially those in the rural states, continued to back Barisan. It is a small consolation to Najib that the Malays have returned to Umno in a significant way.

The Malay wall held back the Chinese tsunami and Barisan won back Kedah. It also held on to Perak, which was a subject of speculation until close to midnight.

At press time, Barisan won Perak with 31 state seats against 28 by Pakatan. But Pakatan continued to dominate in Penang with an increased majority.

PAS managed to hold on to Kelantan with a much reduced majority, which showed that Nik Aziz Nik Mat's appeal as a religious figure still commands support in the state.

As predicted, the Pan-Malaysian Islamic Party (PAS) won the least seats among the Pakatan parties and DAP is now the dominant party in Pakatan with the most number of seats. It can also lay claim to having defeated a top Umno leader, namely former Johor Mentri Besar Ghani Othman in Gelang Patah.

The Pakatan wins also mean that Johor and Sarawak are no longer the fixed-deposit states for Barisan.

The zero sum game of politics means that DAP's gain is MCA's loss because both parties contested in Chinese-majority seats. MCA won only seven parliamentary seats, far short of the 15 that it won in 2008.

MCA president Dr Chua Soi Lek tweeted late last night that the party would not be accepting any government posts.

This was in keeping with the pledge made that the party would not accept posts in the government if it did not do better this time.

A big question mark hangs over the future of MCA as well as Gerakan and SUPP and they will have to do much soul-searching after this.

The Chinese rejection of Barisan is a big blow to Najib, who went out of his way to persuade them to come along on his economic and political transformation journey.

The Chinese have rejected a moderate and inclusive leader, who has made more overtures to the Chinese than any other Prime Minister before him, and Najib and his coalition will have to reassess all this in the months to come.

There will also be soul-searching on the part of PAS, given its loss in Kedah and the defeat of several of its top leaders, including its deputy president Mohamed Sabu in Kedah and vice-president Salahuddin Ayub in Johor. Another vice-president, Husam Musa, lost in Putrajaya.

One of the most disturbing aspects of the election result is that the ruling coalition is dominated by Umno and the Malays while the opposition Pakatan is dominated by the Chinese-based DAP.

The impact of this will become clearer as the dust settles over the most closely-fought election ever.

in the early counting, oppo was winning in many areas...then...
 

kensington

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This is getting interesting if Najib going to keep his head. Abdullah's head rolled after delivering 142 seats and I don't think Najib is going to survive after just winning 133 seats, the lowest by the government so far.

DAP performed extremely well,

DAP secured over 70 percent of the total number of parliament seats it contested in the 13th general election, winning 38 of the 51 seats as party adviser Lim Kit Siang made an inroad into the Barisan Nasional's (BN) stronghold of Johor.

At the Gelang Patah parliamentary seat in Johor, Lim ousted former menteri besar Abdul Ghani Othman by securing a 14,762-vote majority.

Party insiders attributed this among others to the high voter turnout of 89.1 percent at the constituency compared with the nationwide estimate of between 70 and 80 percent announced by the Election Commission.

Besides Gelang Patah, DAP candidates also won Kluang, Bakri and Kulai, but lost in Labis and Tanjong Piai.

In the 12th general election in 2008, DAP won 28 parliamentary seats.

Meanwhile, DAP secretary-general Lim Guan Eng retained his Bagan parliamentary constituency with a 34,159-vote majority, Air Puteh state seat with over 7,700-vote majority. Penang Barisan Nasional (BN) chaiman Teng Chang Yeow announced his resignation within hours after poll results were announced by taking full responsibility over the failure to wrest the state from Pakatan Rakyat.

In Kuala Lumpur, DAP won all five parliamentary seats the party contested, namely in Kepong, Segambut, Bukit Bintang, Seputeh and Cheras.

In Perak, all its seven candidates won with a comfortable margin of votes in most of the Chinese majority parliamentary seats of Taiping, Ipoh Timor, Ipoh Barat, Batu Gajah, Beruas, Kampar and Telok Intan.
Selangor also saw DAP maintain its grip on Puchong (Gobind Singh Deo), PJ Utara (Tony Pua) and Klang (Charles Santiago). Newcomer Ong Kian Ming also managed to ward off BN's Yap Pian Hon.

In Melaka, DAP's Sim Tong Him retained the Kota Melaka parliamentary seat, but failed in its bid for Alor Gajah constituency via Damian Yeo Shen Li, while Seremban and Rasah remained in the party's grasp.

In Sabah, DAP won in Kota Kinabalu and Sandakan, but failed in Sepanggar and Putatan.

While voters in Sarawak, especially in Bandar Kuching, Stampin, Lanang, Sarikei and Sibu, picked DAP candidates as their representatives in parliament, those in Mas Gading, Serian, Mukah, Kapit, Bintulu and Lawas constituencies chose the BN.
 

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What happened to you? No access to TV or Internet. Pic of IC with Chinese name and Indian Photo, Old lady with the recent DOB, Bangladeshi queueing up, chased out of polling stations, voters who cannot cast their votes as someone has already done it for them, voters who residential address is used by others unknown to them etc. Candidate and polling agent not allowed into polling station.

This is unprecedented. Hard evidence.


would backfire if pakatan does not distance itself from the rumours of election fraud as it might mean pakatan is sore loser. if challenge the process, no end to it.
 

darkblackout

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BN is in control of the police hence they got their ways to perform fraud with the votes. A dark dark day for all humans in Malaysia.
 

metalmickey

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From the margin of victory, it seems as though the BN didn't need to cheat in order to win, although we'll never know.

It does seem like there's a lot of anti-BN sentiment in the cities. But most of the Malaysians we know are the Chinese and the city folk, who are the most likely to vote against BN. The people in the villages who you don't see, who are invisible to the internet are likely to vote BN.
 

metalmickey

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It seems that PR actually polled more than 50% of the entire electorate. I will have to retract what I said about "it's not clear that BN needed to cheat in order to win".
 
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Come to think of it,,BN is playing the race card against the Cina now. I cant believe that suckers believe that BN is not racist. By using the term Chinese Tsunami is singling the Chinese out for BN losses and that the Chinese want to control the country etc etc. How come the media is so quiet on the malays that support the PKR and so on...? Now BN is going to play the race card and the Chinese will take the blame..
 

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What happened to you? No access to TV or Internet. Pic of IC with Chinese name and Indian Photo, Old lady with the recent DOB, Bangladeshi queueing up, chased out of polling stations, voters who cannot cast their votes as someone has already done it for them, voters who residential address is used by others unknown to them etc. Candidate and polling agent not allowed into polling station.

This is unprecedented. Hard evidence.



There is so much hard evidence in the form of video recording, eye witness accounts, illegals actually getting caught, faulty paperwork, etc. In Chinese, we say "ren zheng wu zheng ju quan" - both material as well as human evidence is staggering.

One household can suddenly discover that 3 or 4 strangers have been registered to their address. Voters can go to the polls and discover someone voted in their name. Bangala actually voted twice (two stained fingers, one on each hand). I can't go into this. All the evidence stacked up will create a 100-thread posting.
 

kensington

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Come to think of it,,BN is playing the race card against the Cina now. I cant believe that suckers believe that BN is not racist. By using the term Chinese Tsunami is singling the Chinese out for BN losses and that the Chinese want to control the country etc etc. How come the media is so quiet on the malays that support the PKR and so on...? Now BN is going to play the race card and the Chinese will take the blame..

Try as they may but the Chinese won't be blamed this time as more Malays are waking up to the reality that it is the elitist malays that are their stumbling blocks. Majority of savvy younger Malaysians are rejecting the race based politic of yesteryears and the results shown appropriately. That's the reason why the Oppo did extremely well in urban area. Kit Siang thrashed the sitting MB by almost 17k majority and not all those votes were from Chinese.

The gov has complete media manipulations and even their newspapers such as Star and Utusan did not want to accept the opposition's advertisement. Even with such overwhelming resources, votes buying and gerrymandering, they failed to stem the tides of Pakatan's progress.

Pakatans are making inroads into safe BN states such as Johor, NS, Sabah and Sarawak.

BN's kleptocracy has its days numbered because there are just so much resources that they can steal.
 
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