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BN may be guilty of massive electoral fraud

Thick Face Black Heart

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Right now, they are importing large numbers of Bangla workers, possibly to pose as phantom illegal voters to vote for BN.

Complaints of electoral fraud coming in all over the place.
 

ray_of_hope

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There are expected to be perhaps 1 million phantom voters. And then there are targeted PR voters who names have mysteriously vanished from the electoral rolls, not allowing them to vote. It is a really dirty campaign. Not surprisingly, Najib is now saying he is confident of a 2/3rds majority.

Just travelling in Malaysia, as I did 2 weeks back, I could see that BN had thrown in massive amounts of money into the campaign.
 

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and we have opposition suppoters here claiming that serialising the voting slips is a bad way for democracy.
 

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I sense there will be many foul play by BN in this coming Sunday to cling on to power..

Najib and his cronies will come up triumph this weekend..
 

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This is from Sarawak Report.
http://www.sarawakreport.org/2013/05/down-at-the-airport/
Down at the airport is where it is happening with the Malaysian elections right now.

Secret flights are heading out loaded with cash.

Meanwhile overloaded chartered jets are flying in crowded with foreign workers, suspected of being dragooned into voting for BN.

It would appear that the rats are leaving the sinking ship, while the PM is still desperately trying to win this election “at any cost”
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This is also mentioned in Anwar's blog.
 

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Got pictures or not?

Got videos or not??

Put on YouTube.

Complain to Obama!!

Complain to UN.

Make Najib malu.
 
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Some of the opposition's allegations are exagerrated especially on phantom voters. They do have a website to check voters registration details on the electoral roll. From feedback of my MY friends they are largely accurate. The inaccuracies have a lot to do with the fact that there is no automatic update or linkage between govt databases. Eg if someone passes away his name remains on the roll unless his family members get it updated. I would say 80% due to inefficiencies.
 

Thick Face Black Heart

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and we have opposition suppoters here claiming that serialising the voting slips is a bad way for democracy.


We have had activists of all walks of life, and across the entire political spectrum, participating in Singapore GE as counting agents and even election agents. None of them - have ever observed anything remotely resembling electoral shenanigans, apart from the likes of Robert Ho and Uncle Yap.
 

kongsimi

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Shout your ic and name in front of the public made many people scared of voting oppo.

Some even turn around and see if there are people taking pictures or videos.

Angmo countries dun have such bullshits.

Voting is secret how the heck can they scream your ic no. Out loud?

Cb Asians elections got so many monkey business.

No wonder there is not much progress with regards to democracy and civil movements.
 
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aurvandil

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I got wind about this about a month back. The recent unexplained surge of the ringitt against the Sing can be partly attributed to a reduction of the capital flight as word of the plan leaked.

In all previous elections, there have been cheating. These are modest and amount to 1 to 2 per cent of the vote to steal some marginals. We are now looking at a national campaign in excess of 5 per cent. Cheating on such a scale is easy to detect and the PR is likely to amass a lot of evidence.

In spite of this, there is still a good chance BN will lose. This is because I expect PR actually has about 60 per cent of the popular vote. If BN try to cheat on that scale, it will be found out as the high voter turnout will ensure the final tallied vote exceeds the total population by too large a margn.

On BN buying its way back, that will really depend on the number of seats needed. A PR victory margin with more than 20 seats will render this non viable. No one wants to be known as a seat seller unless they are 100% sure that BN will be able to steal the election.

We have had activists of all walks of life, and across the entire political spectrum, participating in Singapore GE as counting agents and even election agents. None of them - have ever observed anything remotely resembling electoral shenanigans, apart from the likes of Robert Ho and Uncle Yap.
 
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Thick Face Black Heart

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WTF Barisan.

Now going for internet blockages, and paying phantom people RM500 to vote.

Youngest voter appears to be 4 year old girl.

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In Malaysia, online election battles take a nasty turn
Iindependent online media say they are being targeted in Internet attacks which filter content and throttle access to websites

Sat, May 04, 2013
Reuters
KUALA LUMPUR - Ahead of Malayasia's elections on Sunday, independent online media say they are being targeted in Internet attacks which filter content and throttle access to websites, threatening to deprive voters of their main source of independent reporting.
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Independent online news sites have emerged in recent years to challenge the dominance of mostly government-linked traditional media. The government denies any attempts to hobble access to the Internet in the run-up to a close-fought election.
"During the 2008 election we were wiped off the Internet," said Premesh Chandran, CEO of independent online news provider Malaysiakini.
"Our concern is that we'll see a repeat of that on May 5. Can we really live without independent media on election night, given that both sides might not accept the result?"
Malaysiakini was set up in the late 1990s to test the government's push to lure technology companies to the country by promising not to censor the Internet. Other news websites have followed, including The Malaysian Insider, which set up shop down the street from Malaysiakini in 2008.
Such websites have emerged as an important source of news to counter the traditional media, most of which are owned by interests linked to the ruling Barisan Nasional or BN coalition.
The BN's dominance of media is one of its crucial advantages as it fends off an increasingly potent opposition that made impressive election gains in 2008. Sunday's election is expected to be the closest yet, though Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak is favoured to win.
Leading opposition politicians who attract big campaign crowds in cities say they get a much cooler reception in rural areas, where access to the Internet is rarer.
Malaysia ranked 145th on a list of 179 countries in this year's World Press Freedom report released by Reporters Without Borders. It was Malaysia's lowest ever ranking.
A survey released on Friday by the University of Nottingham's Malaysia campus and Malaysia's Centre for Independent Journalism found that online media gave almost equal coverage to the opposition and government parties, while traditional media focused on the ruling BN coalition and its parties "by a significant margin".
 

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if BN loses, investors of Iskandar projects will shit in their pants. also, the Maglev that is suppose to be built will also go to the dogs
 

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"Nong Chik's personalised leaflet to a phantom" @malaysiakini http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/229081


Nong Chik's personalised leaflet to a phantom
3:19PM May 4, 2013


KUALA LUMPUR A personalised leaflet by Raja Nong Chik Zainal Abidin's team has unwittingly revealed the suspicious existence of a Muslim voter registered to the home of a Hindu family.


S Ragunath, 32, told Malaysiakini that his family was shocked after receiving the leaflet yesterday, which was addressed to one Zalena Suhid, 47.


"We have been receiving material from Raja Nong Chik for a while now. My mother and brother received personalised messages.


"That didn't surprise us. But imagine how stunned we were when we saw an alien name registered to our address, where we've stayed for 32 years," said Ragunath (right), a flight attendant.


Ragunath said that his family was at a loss over what remedial action they can take for now.


"We are so close to the election. What can the Election Commission (EC) do about this now?" he asked.


For now, Ragunath said that they plan to hand the leaflet over to party agents manning the school where they will be voting.


The personalised leaflet includes the voting stream and serial number, so it will be easy to identify the voter, if she attempts to cast her ballot.


"The authorities have to look at how such a problem could occur," he said.


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Hail the Comrades for Change!

by Kee Thuan Chye
Yahoo! Malaysia

The purest and most heartwarming feature of this upcoming general election, predicted to be the dirtiest ever in Malaysian history, is the solidarity of the Malaysians who are calling for ubah (change) and proclaiming, “Ini kalilah!” (This is the time to do it!)

In the course of a year, it has swelled into a movement. Partly from the Bersih rallies that brought people closer together because they went through adverse circumstances together. Partly from the rallies organised by the Opposition coalition, Pakatan Rakyat, that gave hope of a viable alternative to Malaysians disenchanted by 55 years of Barisan Nasional (BN) rule.

No one person or party organised the movement. It evolved naturally and organically, thanks partly to the new media. Everyone in this loose fraternity is drawn to the movement by one single goal – kicking out BN and bringing about ubah – and there is a passionate zeal in their quest. It came from the fact that many of them became politically sensitised after the 2008 general election, which was a wake-up call for Malaysians to take an active part in shaping their country’s destiny.

What they stand for is change for the better, change for a country rid of a corrupt and deceitful government, change for a brighter future for themselves, for their children. And what drives some of them is the anger they feel against BN for the indefensible wrongs it has committed.

Converting this into action, they have thronged the Pakatan ceramahs in the current election campaign, mobilised fence-sitters to attend them, contributed funds to Pakatan parties, helped out directly with Pakatan’s campaigning, volunteered to be polling and counting agents for election day.

In informal ways, they have helped to indirectly campaign for Pakatan by circulating e-mails exposing BN’s excesses and abuse of power, blogging, posting comments on media websites, tweeting and Facebooking.

On Facebook lately, their statement of change has seen expression in many like-minded Netizens adopting the ubah mascot as their profile photos. This gives ready recognition of themselves as comrades for the same cause, as well as a group identity.

The more creative ones have contributed towards creating greater awareness by producing videos to spread the message of change and sharing them on social media. Landscape artist Ng Sek San came up with the idea of planting ‘flowers’, dubbed “Malaysian Spring” and made of small flags in the colours of Pakatan’s component parties, in Bangsar, Kuala Lumpur. They have since sprouted in other locations, planted by other comrades for change.

Out in the streets or in public places, strangers warm up to one another and behave as if they were old friends when the subject of politics comes up and complaints about the BN Government surface, followed by the theme of the need for change. I have encountered this myself a few times.

So have a few of my friends. One was in a taxi coming back from the airport when he and the driver started talking about politics. It seemed like the natural thing to do. It also seemed natural that the driver condemned the Government, and when my friend arrived at his destination and was getting out of the taxi, the driver said to him, “Remember to ubah ah?”

A friend in Singapore reported that while he was waiting at a bus stop, a middle-aged man who must have recognised he was Malaysian, suddenly came up to him with a frown on his face, gesturing to him to look at his smartphone. It was showing a news update about the DAP’s decision to contest under the symbols of PAS and PKR because the Registrar of Societies (ROS) had derecognised the DAP’s central executive committee.

“Stupid idiots! So damn dirty!” the man shouted. Then he grinned at my friend, and my friend grinned at him, and they both shook hands.

Another friend told me that as she was walking out of the consulate in New York City after casting her overseas vote on April 28, a fellow Malaysian who had done the same but whom she didn’t know from Adam turned to her and asked, “Have you done your part?” Without a moment’s pause, she replied, “Definitely!”

Clearly, the comrades for change are candid about their choice and have no qualms about declaring it openly. They don’t abide by the precept that one’s vote is a secret. They even go about to share their sentiment with others to get them to join the cause. They are proud to state their stand.

In contrast, BN supporters appear more muted. Er … probably with the exception of actress Michelle Yeoh. But she found out, to her exasperation, that her public endorsement of BN chairman Najib Razak for prime minister was ill-advised. It incurred the wrath of many Malaysians who bombarded her Facebook page with devastating diatribes. In the course of it, she lost many fans.

Among the comrades for change are Malaysians residing overseas. Some of them have resolved to come home to vote, from even as far as the United States of America.

Those across the Causeway in Singapore have been organising even before the dissolution of Parliament was announced to come back in groups, by car-pooling or chartering buses. A group of about 20 Malaysians resident there were even going around an MRT station bearing placards urging Malaysians to go home and vote.

Their major concern is that every vote is going to count, taking into consideration the allegations of expected widespread cheating through the participation of phantom voters and foreigners illegally given identity cards. And now, as BN secretary-general Tengku Adnan Tengku Mansor has admitted, voters flown in by his coalition from Sabah and Sarawak as well. The numbers arriving, alleges Opposition Leader Anwar Ibrahim, are in the tens of thousands.

If Pakatan Rakyat still manages to win the general election despite the odds, it will owe a great debt of gratitude to the comrades for change. It can also be certain that they will expect Pakatan to deliver on its promises. And that they will continue to assert themselves and voice their dissatisfaction if they are disappointed.

On the other hand, if BN wins, they will remain a strong pressure force. BN will face an even tougher time ruling the country being watched closely by these people who have now stepped forward to take responsibility for their country.

A new spirit has arisen in Malaysia. And the clamour for change will continue to resonate. The best scenario is for the wave for change to sweep the entire nation and carry along with it fence-sitters and even BN supporters as well. In fact, it is now growing in momentum and may peak on polling day in a Pakatan victory if the election is free of fraud. But there may yet be many a slip ’twixt the prediction and the result.

As the proverb goes, nothing is for certain until the fat lady sings, and she’s still two days from singing
 

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So far, the attempt to cheat has been very badly organised. They seem to be adopting the same tactics as when they were cheating 1% to 2%. BN has to compensate for a deficit of close to 10%. This translates to close to 1 million votes. With the tactics used so far, there is no way they are going to get close to those numbers. Also the large incidence of foreign workers voting with phantom ids is easily detected and documented by PR who seem to be setting the stage for a People's Power style protest should BN steal the election.

scenes like this are erupting all over malaysia, where foreign workers are getting caught attempting to vote:

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Thick Face Black Heart

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So far, the attempt to cheat has been very badly organised. They seem to be adopting the same tactics as when they were cheating 1% to 2%. BN has to compensate for a deficit of close to 10%. This translates to close to 1 million votes. With the tactics used so far, there is no way they are going to get close to those numbers. Also the large incidence of foreign workers voting with phantom ids is easily detected and documented by PR.


Lets hope so.

Ballot slips and voting procedures in the voting centre also very messy. Use of pencil rather than pen, voting slips with no stamp, etc
 

ray_of_hope

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The main advantage for Pakatan is that polls close fairly early, at 5pm (unlike 8pm in S'pore and elsewhere).
If only few results come in before 10pm then we would know that more cheating is taking place at the counting stage.
 
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