What abput the nutjobs in JI?
Yes by all means use the ISA on them. But not on church activists for goodness sake. Use the same yardstick, imagine Obama sticking some fundamental church activists in Guantemala.
What abput the nutjobs in JI?
My 5 cents worth. Just to steer the discussion back. ISA is probably needed still just as Guatemala Bay is required for countering terrorist activities. But no one is concerned about Guatemala Bay being used against political opponents to US govt. The same cannot be said about ISA in Singapore.
What I am saying is that this is will be a recurring theme that will continue to flare up where the Catholics and their Church is concerned. It has happened for the last 50 years and will continue to do so.
The complication is that the Vatican considers itself as a sovereign state and wants to be recognised by Singapore. They have an ambassador for the region who was based in Bangkok and since 2011 is now based here. The proper term is apostolic nuncio.
The Archbishop followed his heart and did what he did at first. No the room was not bugged as Alex thinks but Teo Chee Hean's secret squirrel emerged either in Function 8 or Maurah or even the Catholic Church and I suspect in all 3. ISD moved and the Archbishop was summoned to chia samosa. They would only do that after consulting the apostolic nuncio. He was told that he was going to be defrocked and did the tango backwards real fast. Archbishop Yong was in the same boat when they summoned the apostolic nuncio from Bangkok.
As far as the Vatican is concerned their sovereignty is more important than a few Singaporeans with bleeding hearts.
Teo Chee Hean in his customary fashion fucked it up as usual by asking MHA to come out with the "disrepectful" crap.
Alex Au's fault is that he is taking on the Church rather than Teo Chee Hean. Same with Teo Soh Lung. The latter is still the blurfuck and does not know what is going on.
I see where you are coming from. Yes, I agree that Alex should have taken on MHA. But I wonder if he would have known that it was becos the MHA hauled up the apostolic nuncio who was the one who made Nicholas Chia retract his position. If he had, Teo would still have told him not to be disrespectful to the govt as it is the Executive branch. It is in the DNA.
The garment always push the boundary of their actions by saying things like Singapore is small and unique...we r not like other countries,we need special this and that, our margin for error is razor thin...and all that crap. They dont realize they have overstep the line in many cases.
Actually Singapore is not unique, but we handle threats much better than USA n Europe because we have ISA.
Actually Singapore is not unique, but we handle threats much better than USA n Europe because we have ISA.
I see where you are coming from. Yes, I agree that Alex should have taken on MHA. But I wonder if he would have known that it was becos the MHA hauled up the apostolic nuncio who was the one who made Nicholas Chia retract his position. If he had, Teo would still have told him not to be disrespectful to the govt as it is the Executive branch. It is in the DNA.
Actually Singapore is not unique, but we handle threats much better than USA n Europe because we have ISA.
Actually Singapore is not unique, but we handle threats much better than USA n Europe because we have ISA.
I see where you are coming from. Yes, I agree that Alex should have taken on MHA. But I wonder if he would have known that it was becos the MHA hauled up the apostolic nuncio who was the one who made Nicholas Chia retract his position. If he had, Teo would still have told him not to be disrespectful to the govt as it is the Executive branch. It is in the DNA.
Why can't they go thru Eric Tan on these matters.
Teo Chee Hean is a SJI boy. Being a Catholic or from a Catholic school he's been asked to do the dirty work. But u r right. They should lay off the poor Archbishop.Here is the interesting bit, note where the fire power of F8 and Alex is concentrated on. They are going after the Archbishop and doing a point by point rebuttal. Any born and bred Singaporeans knows the bullying tactics of the Govt. they should be shelling the Govt for bullying the guy.
Instead they have agreed to have closed door dialogue with MHA over ISA.
How dumb can you get.
Honestly what does one expect the Archbishop to say - I left my balls at the altar. From his replies he knows that he is clutching at straws.
They should demand what Teo and company did to the Archbishop, why summon to the Istana, was the Italian chap also summoned to the Istana. Why he can't write a letter of support. Why the intimidation, why can't he bring someone to accompany him.
Why can't they go thru Eric Tan on these matters. Teo is showing disrespect to a church leader.
I am also surprised that Teo is playing around in a turf that only the PM usually does. He must be the closest MHA minister to ISD since we became independent.
Teo Chee Hean is a SJI boy. Being a Catholic or from a Catholic school he's been asked to do the dirty work. But u r right. They should lay off the poor Archbishop.
Instead they have agreed to have closed door dialogue with MHA over ISA.
How dumb can you get.
I am also surprised that Teo is playing around in a turf that only the PM usually does. He must be the closest MHA minister to ISD since we became independent.
Ya, this is dumb. But actually Alex's blog started out as a cynical jibe at the National Conversation, until the whole thing got derailed by Nicholas Chia's rebuttal and the govt took advantage of that.
Either the PM is reserving himself as the silver bullet or he is setting him up for the fall, or both.
Teo Chee Hean is a SJI boy. Being a Catholic or from a Catholic school he's been asked to do the dirty work. But u r right. They should lay off the poor Archbishop.